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Define "right wingers." I get called a "right winger" because I am pro-2A. I am also pro-1A and pro-every other amendment, and pro-the Constitution proper, as amended. I do not give a care what consenting adults choose to do in bed.
There is also the broad brush issue. It would be like asking, after Steve Scalise was shot, if that type of violence is what Bernie Bros want. Or asking if this is what Democrats want after that idiot ran over the kid because he thought the kid was a Trump supporter.
No, violent people are responsible for their own actions. If I had my way, at least some of those people in the club would have been trained and had CCW's. The assailant would have been ended before killing so many.
It seems that being a constitutionalist these days is considered right wingers, by the left. As I'm not Republican, I am a constitutionalist/libertarian. Some things I agree with Democrats, most I agree with Republicans.
I've also had many Democrats say it is just a old piece of paper that needs to be ignored.
@Aerissa_Jade Funny, that's what I hear Republicans say when it doesn't fit their narrative too, except when it comes to anything about a militia. That's what I heard Trump say when he tried to throw out an election with no proof of widespread fraud. Yes, both parties say it from time to time.
It IS an old document with a lot of basically good ideas, but it does need to be amended and updated, when necessary, but not ignored.
They definitely want more political violence against anyone they disagree with, yes. That is all they have wanted for 20 years, at least. They are mad that no matter how many times they vote republican, their lives never improve, yet when democrats win things get slowly better. For normal people, this should be an "oh wait. I've been lied to" thing, but right wingers are beaten over the head with the idea that everyone thinks they are stupid all their lives - so admitting they were dumb enough to get tricked into voting against their own interest makes them super violent.
This is the problem with Democrats they lie soo much they start to believe it.
My life has always gotten better under Republicans and worse under Democrats. Everyone here in small town America gets better under Republicans and worse under Democrats. This is why the Republicans win by 70% to 90% over Democrats in many rural areas and Democrats are almost near extinct.
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FYI, I will NOT read any response from a proven liar, feel free to waste you time... in fact I encourage you to spend a lot of time posting a massive response that I won't read... because your responses are going to be more lies, I want to waste your time.
You've shown your ignorance numerous times and this is my final waste of time on you as a KNOWN liar.
Goodbye lying Democratic troll as I hate you as a person. I would shed no tears if you died in a mass shooting. Yet I'd cheer you on if you were armed and took out a shooter in a mass shooting.
Wait, so you lie and expect that I will read your response? Right wing projection is probably the main way they get away with pushing their extremism. Dilbert had a comic on this very issue today. It would be hilarious, if you people weren't using the same tactics to destroy democracy..
@Aerissa_Jade " Goodbye lying Democratic troll as I hate you as a person. I would shed no tears if you died in a mass shooting."
And THAT, is exactly why people like you with that mindset, are dangerous. You're stupid enough to actually BELIEVE that the Republicans don't lie too and it's just Dems who do. You're "hate" for a political party can easily be turned toward any specific group you don't like as well, such as LGBTQ's.
Things like this are nothing but conjecture: "My life has always gotten better under Republicans and worse under Democrats." Let's see - you're 27 years old. When did you move out of your parents house and start earning your own way? In fact, the economy over the last 6 Presidential admins has expanded more under the Dems than the Repubs. You were 13 when mommy and daddy lost 40% of their portfolio under Bush, and got it back in the next 6 years under Obama.
" Everyone here in small town America gets better under Republicans and worse under Democrats." More conjecture. LOOK UP what the word means. So now you speak for "small town America" too, huh? You really don't see big picture at all, so don't think you are ignorance free.
What I like about normal ice is he never deleted my responses, unlike the average leftist. And he admitted to having a kind of a catholic schoolgirl syndrome. Which I don't blame him for either, as all religions were founded by masonic faggots and occultist trannies. Even bible translators and reformers. But so are absolutely all us presidents women, and all their wives are men. Putin is also a woman with a gender inverted rest of his family, so they are all nonbinary, stated by their lawyer or not.
We want all the clubbers to be armed, so when a gunman comes in and opens fire, they can take him out in the first 5 seconds without hitting any bystanders.
Rather than wait an hour for police to show up.
Wait... this is a joke comment right?
Why would it be a joke?
It is really what conservatives want, self defense is in YOUR hands... you conceal or open carry and defend yourself. Don't rely on the police as they have no legal obligation to protect anyone. Several different SCOTUS rulings have stated as much.
Just realize YOU are responsible for where all bullets go and will be held accountable if you hit someone besides the shooter. Even though police themselves are not if they accidently shoot someone else besides the shooter.
So what we want is people to take their own protection into their own hands and be more self reliant, when police are not around.
It happens all the time, just main stream media doesn't report on it or when they do they act like it was a one time thing.
Where I live, public schools allow any employee/parent to conceal carry and we have NEVER had a school shooting because any would be shooter, has zero idea... if the first janitor/teacher/etc... they come across is armed or not.
We also do not need a permit to conceal carry, and open/conceal carry is legal everywhere except federal buildings (federal law prohibits it.)
Despite liberal lies that this will lead to more gun violence, it simply is not true here.
So no, if many clubbers were armed, and a would be shooter knows that... would they risk it? after all the first person they shoot at, could shoot back. Mass shooters want gun free zones and people to not shoot back.
This was one gay guy killing other gay people.
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u This is the kind of extremist, distorted, paritsan rhetoric that keeps the country divided.
What does that have to do with this? Based upon the limited information available so far it sounds like this was a personal dispute.
Frankly they shouldn't be putting this stuff on the news this soon, not only does it glorify the people who do theses things it invites pointless speculation and finger pointing that is almost always wrong.
@monorprise My response was directed at the Asker's question, not the video.
Are we going to be treated to every local criminal act that takes place anywhere in a country of 330 million people now?
If so should we not at least wait until something is known so we have time to hear about more than a fraction of every other one?
No I just want you to go live with the 3rd worlders in their countries instead of bringing them into ours. Like Martha's Vineyard Pretending to love immigrants until they moved in with them. I find white liberals deceitful and dishonest willing to through anyone they can under the bus in order to make themselves look better.
It's what gay people want, He was a non-binary shooter.
Your fake news isn't going to tell you that most of these gay nightclub shooters are gay themselves.
By far the most violence against gay men is from other gay men.
Stop attacking the heterosexual community.
That is false. Dude was not part of the lgbt
He was never part of that group.
He was at that nightclub because he wanted to kill people. He went there with that goal.
As if. His own father said he was not gay. And he was happy with that.
Son killed a bunch of people? Who cares as long as he is not gay.
This is the kind of mentality his father has. What kind of education do you think he got?
Add to that the lies right wing media is telling about LGBT people and you have the justification for what happened.
He is non Binary, He had all court papers address him as Mix Aldrich. He is a member of the LGBTQ community.. Even CNN reported this.
His father is a pornographer and MMA fighter, has been in and out of jail his entire life and fraudulently claims to be a member of the Mormon Church which he has never attended in his life.
He praised his son for his violent behavior and believed his son committed suicide until receiving a phone call six months before the shooting. He taught his son to be violent.
Nothing about his life is Conservative or Religious.
Clearly mental illness runs in the family. Not uncommon in the LGBTQ community.
False. That is a lie that he is telling because he wants a lighter sentence, trying to avoid adding hate crime to his charges. But he never in his life had any contact with that bar before so he is lying.
He just entered and kill them. Thank that to the fact that he lives is such a conservative state and in a religious extremist family. They all love to dehumanize lgbt and this is the result.
His fake identity. A weak attempt at trying to not be convicted for a hate crime.
That has no logic. That the same as saying that many priests are pedophiles. So all priests are pedophiles? This has no logic.
You are just trying to find way to justify your hate for them. And anything serves as an excuse.
You mean... he says he does.
Again with that false narrative to validate your bias?
Being gay and being violent has no correlation.
If we go by that route I can simply say that straight people are inherently rapists. Is equally false.
Where are you taking that information from? The violence perpetuated against them is what we have seen throughout history. Just for being gay. That is the reality
What most left wingers don't want to notice is that most shootings are in places where people can't bear arms, like schools or clubs.
Shootings in places where people can bear arms (like airports) are extremely rare.
straight people get shot far more but no one out here is blaming left wingers.
Maybe because no one is killing them because they are straight.
Right wingers want conformance to the Constitution.
What do left wingers want?
If you saw it on CNN, I VERY seriously doubt it!!
Yeah, right, kid!! That's why it's all democrats that are destroying the country because no one with a brain agrees with them!!
Ok boomer
AND fucking PROUD OF IT!!
Of course you are.
WAY better than being a stupid as gen Z or millennial!! t least we have brains!!
You have brainwashed brains.
No, that'd be YOUR crowd! We were still being taught what counts! Things like: common sense!! I guess you'll have to look that one up in the dictionary.
Your generation's world is very small. You believed what you where told and the "school of life". Bullshit. We had much better access to information, statistically much more higher education than you did. We are the ones with critical thinking because we know more than you. You just spew your old time beliefs, that are not even in your own interest, but you don't even know it.
In the meantime, I see SO MANY of you that can't even uuse4 the English language correctly!! You don't know what punctuation is, you don't know how to spell, you don't understand simple math, you think the world is actually the way you saw it on cartoons, you believe EVERYTHING the t.. v. tells you to believe and you have no concept of critical thinking or research!
We were taught by people who learned things and actually had real experiences! Your information comes from a controlled media source that only tells you what they want you to hear!
You just spew whatever talking points your handlers brainwash you to believe! We go by facts, research and proof
English is not my first language. If that is all you have then you have nothing.
Regarding math I can almost guarantee I know more than you. Do you have any degree?
What TV? Like I said our formal education was far superior to yours. That's where we learn. You don't even listen.
There it is! "The school of life". Meaning, "Someone said something wrong and I believed blindly because he had real experiences". Empirical knowledge is very far from factual knowledge.
What media? You have no idea do you? You actually think that we get our information from the media? Like I said your world in very small.
Research? Your generation? By your own admission you just believe whatever the old timers used to say because of their "experience". We are the ones that actually know how to do proper research. Do you even know google scholar?
I meant your generation, not you, specifically!!
So? What's your point? I can guarantee I know more about music and records than you do! How many record books have you helped to write?
The TV that OBVIOUSLY tells you what to think and who to hate!
And if there's a reason to doubt what your taught, you can look it up for proof! at least we don't blindly believe something just because that's what we were told to believe! At least we are big enough to say, "Okay, we have new evidence and we WERE wrong about our first statement. We SHOW YOU PROOF that what you're talking about is utter bullshit and you STILL refuse to believe it!!
Media: CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, Washington Post, Google, Twitter (until very recently), any corporate-controlled mass media outlet. OBVIOUSLY, YOU don't know!!
My world has books, knowledge and research, YOURS has whatever is the latest talking point! That makes YOUR world microscopic by comparison!!
no, you got it wrong, again!! For instance, the old timers said that Oswald killed Kennedy by himself! Not only have I looked into it but found that to be complete bullshit!! Old timers say there's no cure for cancer!! I've looked into it and found that there are nearly 400 known natural cures!! Old timers say we still have to use rockets and fuel to go into space, I've looked into it and know that we've actually been able to do what the Jetsons and Star Trek did since the `50's!!
Yeah, I know what Google is and I know it's corporate-owned and will only tell you what they want you to know! see? YOU just admitted using mass media!! Do you know what a book is?
You know a ton of records and helped writing a book. As if no book ever written is full of crap. Starting with the bible.
Here is the thing, I don't listen to any of those channels. None. Like I told you, I don't get my information from random media I know how to educate myself. But you must believe otherwise to validate your worldview. Other than channels you resort to insult search engines with the conspiracy theory excuse. Not surprised.
I also don't have Twitter.
No one is telling me to hate anything. Unlike you that had immigrants, gays, blacks and others vilified for ages on the public square.
There are things that have cured cancer on certain patients before, but none reliable and proven to function enough. Again conspiracy theories.
Yes I like to read a lot. The Back Book of capitalism is the one I am reading now, have you heard of it?
5 books!
How can a book of facts be full of shit?
Well, you're, OBVIOUSLY, doing a really shitty job of self-educating!!
Because I've looked into THE FACTS of those news agencies and search engines!!
I got on Twitter about 15 years ago, checked it out for a few minutes, deemed it worthless & never used it again! Now that someone that purports THE TRUTH owns it, I MIGHT start using it, again!
Where'd you get the idea I hate immigrants, gays, blacks, and others? I have no problem with immigrants, as long as they come here LEGALLY!! I was in a black man's band for 25 years and had 6 other blacks in the band over the decades we were together!! And, I've got a number of gay friends as well as transgendered friends! NEXT!!
Again, bullshit!! You have NO idea what you're talking about!! I used baking soda to cure mom's cancer! She had HUGE green & purple welts ALL OVER her body!! Within 2 months, it was GONE!! Her own cancer Dr. didn't even WANT to know how I did it!! His exact words to her were, "I don't know what you're doing and I DON'T WANT to know but, whatever it is, keep doing it because your cancer is going away!" I've heard hundreds of success stories from people that used various alternate methods to cure cancer!! In Australia, they've found that something in Blushwood berries cures even stage 4 cancer within 48 HOURS!! It was even featured on their version of, "60 Minutes"!
Do SOME research, kid!!
It doesn't matter if you don't listen to those particular media outlets, as long as you believe the bullshit they spew, you might just as well watch them because they HAVE managed to brainwash you!!
No, I've never heard of The Back Book. Music and records are my thing, not books on politics.
This is a joke right?
Literally all if it. From the conspiracy theory about search engines to calling Musk purports the truth. He is an egocentric fuck and his actions with the workers and twitter users show it. When I say you have been brainwashed this is the kind of shit I talk about. You actually think he is remotely a decent human being? You are naive.
Good for you. For real, good. But most of your generation doesn't support that acceptance.
Baking soda to cure cancer? Perfect go to the closest cancer unit and heal everyone using it then. Go ahead.
With baking soda or berries. Your call.
Of course it's not going to work. This is the main issue...
Do you actually think that you know more than the scientific community? The ones that live to discover and learn? They have to test things, prove then and all new knowledge is power reviewed. And it has to keep working and being valid always or is cast away. And any discovery in one area that involves other fields of study to be updated must be proven in all of them.
All of this proven and tested knowledge is infinitely more reliable than empirical knowledge. Always.
Happy that your mother lived of course.
No jokes, just FACTS! I know that's a dirty word to democrats!!
Do you HONESTLY think that the way Twitter was was a good thing? (I guess you also think, the way the country is now is way better than it was 2 years ago!) They banned people left & right for saying anything the mass media bullshit didn't agree with!! That's not freedom of speech!! NOW it has freedom of speech!! If that hurts your little mind, maybe you better just stay away from it!! Freedom's coming, like it or not!! If you don't like freedom, better get your tickets to China while you can still get in!! They're sealing people into their own homes, now!
Bullshit! Most of my generation DOES accept it! We were the first ones to stand up for equality!!
The information is out there for ANYONE to use but, they've all been bullshitted (brainwashed!!) into believing that the ONLY cure for cancer is radiation and that cancer is a death sentence!! So, because big pharma gets VERY rich on selling that shit, they won't let anyone tip over their cash cow boat!! Dr. Simoncini has been using baking soda as a cure over in Italy for decades!! So has Dr. Coldwell in Germany.. Dr. Burszinski, in Texas, came up with something called, 'antineoplastons" that he uses to cure cancer. Look any of these guys up on YT and you'll see. All I did was look up "cures for cancer" and I found all kinds of info on how to REALLY cure it!!
I don't have the money or the means to make as much of the stuff to cure all those people! Besides, they've all been brainwashed to think it's not true so, chances are, they won't even try it!! On top of that, there's been quite a few people that were arrested for not using the conventional snake oil to cure cancer!! It's cutting into big pharma's pockets and they don't like that!!
OF COURSE, it'll work!! It cured mom!!
I know the scientific community doesn't like it when someone questions their methods!!
If they REALLY wanted to discover and learn, they would've been using natural remedies instead of the garbage they tout that either doesn't work at all or just makes matters worse! The biggest reason they refuse to use natural stuff is because they can't patent or sell it!! They're in the money-making business, NOT in the curing business!!
Power reviewed?
There was a nurse about 70 years ago that discovered a cancer cure that only uses natural ingredients. She cured hundreds of cancer patients with it! Before she died, most of them gathered to celebrate her for what she's done! She called her stuff, Essiac (her first name spelled backwards.). Around the same time, there was some guy that was going after her trying to get her arrested for doing this. One day, he was told that HE has cancer! So, he decided to try her stuff and it cured him, too!! He started touting her and this stuff she made and then they went after HIM for doing so!!
Chemo & radiation are NOT working!! At least not very well!! They only have about a 5% success rate and most of the people that use it die 5 years later BECAUSE of it!!
Okay, so, you go ahead and take a roulette spin on radiation when you get cancer! I'm not afraid of cancer because I know how to cure it!!
No, NOT always!! Only SOMETIMES!!
Thanks! I only wish I could've found out about this stuff before it killed dad!!
Why they would use natural remedies if they don't work? Look around you. Everything we have and use is not natural. Humans pick it up and improved it.
Can you give me the link with that nurse story? Or at least her last name so I can search about it?
Yes they do work. They are not guaranteed to work depending on people's responses and stage of the disease.
*Peer reviewed*
Sorry.
I am sorry if your father died to it, but trust me if you ever have cancer yourself, quimo is your best bet.
Chemo hardly ever works and they use that! A 5% success rate is nothing to crow about!! Especially when you factor in how people that use it die a few years later anyway BECAUSE of it!! In the meantime, these natural cures work great AND they don't hurt you, like Chemo does!!
Yeah? So what? Animals find their own natural cures, look around at that!! It was a horse that taught one Dr. all about natural cures!!
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=essiac Across the top are various forms of the stuff she made and sold. Third video down has a story about her and how she cured at least dozens of cancer patients. Most of the other videos on the top of the list are about Essiac, too.
From what I'm told, not every natural cure will work for everybody. SOME people might need to hunt around to see which one works best for them. I'd think that, even if you took ALL of them, seeing as how they're natural, they probably wouldn't hurt you.
Thanks. With dad, he had thousands of tiny spots of it all over the place and didn't know it `til it was too late to get them all but, even though they gave him 3 weeks to live, he lasted 3 MONTHS! Had I thought to look up the cures on YT a few weeks BEFORE he died, instead of the DAY he died, he might still be alive today!! He would've been 98 2 months ago and his family were known for having very long lives!!
I've never heard of quimo.
The ones I know of are Essiac, Vitamin B17, baking soda, soursop, blushwood berry, marijuana, Iscador and there might be a couple others I don't recall at the moment. I've never seen a full list of all the others.
https://youtu.be/F_7LZ8GLerI
This is a sensitive subject for you so I will leave it at this.
We are from different generations and we see the world very differently.
Obviously science and logic aren't your long suits.
I was thinking the same thing about you.
How can you say you are for science if you don't believe doctors?
Mainstream type doctors, I don''t trust 100%, those that actually tell the truth and actually LEARN HOW to cure your ills are the ones I trust the most!! When mom's cancer Dr. told her, "I don't know what you're doing and I don't WANNA know!" that tells me I can't trust him!! He's not even interested in knowing how her cancer is being cured? What kind of specialist DOESN'T want to know how things in his chosen field are accomplished and STILL calls himself a specialist in that field?
Most doctors today are ONLY trained in how to write prescriptions and maybe give advice. If they can't give you pills for it, they haven't got a clue what to do about it!!
That's an awful thing that doctor said.
But don't use him as a rule for all. And specially don't throw away medical knowledge just because of what he said.
I was already doubtful of them at least a decade before that.
Don't continue to be. There is no conspiracy or secret knowledge that they are hiding. As someone with three sisters who work as doctors and nurse I can tell.
I really hope you don't have any serious disease and refuse treatment because of this conspiracy theory.
Conspiracy theories are only theories to the loonies that believe all the supposed facts.
The thing is exactly to believe things without proofs.
That's what the loonies do.
LGBTQ guy shoots up a gay nightclub. Why would they want that?
Lauren Boebert: “The mass shooting in Colorado Springs could have been avoided if everyone had a gun.”
Once again. Failure to see the obvious.
lets find out whom did it and why before reacting.
no.
As a gay republican, start carrying guns. Problem solved.
Just because somebody supports the second amendment does not mean they are okay with murder.
I’d rather they were all rounded up and sent to California.
Pretty sure nobody wants that besides hateful people.
To scare people into not voting, regress on civil rights and subtlety throw red meat to their base?
Uh yeah….
I will bet it is a Homosexual that did the shooting. He is battling the fact that he is one and this his way of denying it.
I love how only liberals know what is wrong or right
I didn’t know you already knew the political affiliation of the shooter.
Most people in the world are stupid. This question is proof of that.
Stop the grooming and mutilation of children
So you're assuming it was a right winger based on the fact that its a gay club?
No, don't be fuckin stupid.
I see CNN and say no.
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