Are you an individualist or a collectivist?

[letuswaltzforthedead]

Do you value more your own independent self-reliance and way of being over whatever other people think? Or do you care about what other people think and value their perspectives too?

[Lliam]

While I enjoy camaraderie, as well as thoughts and opinions of others, I am 100% individualist because I make up my own mind about everything.

I value my own liberty and, therefore, defend others' right to liberty.

I'm an independent thinker who can't be defined by labels like conservative or liberal. I don't trust politicians or mainstream media, and am not influenced by consensus. I do research and form opinions that get revised as more information becomes available.

So I'm a collectivist in defending the rights of others, but I am an individualist when it comes to resenting being ordered around. If you can't convince me, you can fuck off.

[Sixgunsound]

The west was won by capable, competent, rugged individualists. It is a place where competition for the best paying job, the best mate, the best ho e, the est food, etc used to be respected and expected. Iron sharpens iron and whatnot. But lately, now that Marx is sneaking into schools and churches and social groups, that is all going away, and we are weaker and worse off for it. Look at how the sheeple rolled over and took it from the state the last three years? I never thought people were so weak and spineless as they have demonstrated themselves to be. There are thousands of people per every government official.

[Sixgunsound]

Thanks for MHO

[WhitneySnow]

I’m both. I’m my own person but I also care about what others think.

[dustybiker]

I’m just me. Whatever that is.

[Weapon77]

Bit of both? I want to pursue my individualism to the point of being able to take care of people who need me, and I often enjoy being alone. But I also enjoy human connection, and sometimes need others even though it's hars for me to admit. But I can't seem to actually get what I need from others. More often than not, they use what I give them without reciprocating. It's fine when I'm helping people weaker than me or who really need my help, but it's hurtful when family members don't reciprocate. Also disappointing when I have trouble making friends and finding dates and such.

[mstbooblover]

Although I do value other people's sincere opinions and perspectives, I appreciate to keep my indepency of thought and handling. I like to take my own decisions without bothering much about what other people think.

On the other hand I distrust profoundly the human gregarious mind. Nothing is more creepy for me than a mass of people shouting, manifesting, worshipping dicators, etc. So many horrors happen because of manipulated mobs. You get the picture.

Politically on the other hand, some collectivism can't harm ;0)

[NathanDavis]

balance... between the both

it depends on the circumstances and the context as well... you cannot go entirely with one or the other exclusively, even if you lean heavily for one or the other, you cannot do without some of the opposite

so, personally... I strike for balance because it is the one that suits me best, both have their pros... and their cons, and the closer I am to balance the more I can neutralize the cons for either and the more I can optimize the pros, for both

[Anonymous]

Why would you care about what other people think unless you valued other people's Independent self-reliance and way of being?

The only reason civilized men even contemplate a limitation upon their natural right to freedom is to protect the same right from others.

The moment any law goes beyond said protection is the same moment others have acted to enslave their fellow man for their own benefit.

[Soteris]

I personally lean towards individualism but I recognize the power and importance of collectivism and therefore I adhere to it primarily for the benefit of society as a whole. Its quite frankly not even a contest in results.

[exitseven]

I have been and individualist long before it became fashionable.

[Wish4UrB00ty]

I value my own independence way more… it’s kind of funny. It’s something that I am just learning about myself actually.

[Sixgunsound]

That's awesome. Prepare to resist the crushing tidal wave if state power along with millions of others who have had enough!

[SnowedIn]

Collectivist who also does some healthy self-reliance.

[pers0n]

I'm trying to get other people to care only about what I think.

[lalaloveee]

I'm sure people will adore you while you trying to convince them that their beloved leaders are actually trannies who hiding their pink polka dot panties in their secret drawers

[pers0n]

@lalaloveee they're not leaders. They're demonically possessed slaves.
This man wears glasses to hide his demonically darkness emitting eye color,

And his wifeband has her mouth opened to channel the spirits of the deceased king tranny, alleged father of missis william on the right, mister Elizabeth.

[pers0n]

Did I mention how mister Elizabeth was obsessed with Tesla's 369...
The drag dying at 6:30 pm, 69 years 3 months and 6 days after coronation, at 96 years and his book being 96 pages long, and whose name in the reverse order equals 369. Dying exactly the 1110th minute of the while being born on the 111th day of the year... as there are 111 days left in the year after September 11th, and 911 days went by from the day WHO declared the world a pandemic on March 11, 2020 to when the drag died. 1776 days after the first QAnon drop, which is the year both the illuminati was founded and US declared a nation... 201 days after testing positive to the occult fake virus.. (just as the Georgian guidestones were detonated on July 6th (7/6) on george Bush's 76th birthday (skull+and+bones=76) 201 days after pope Francis's birthday.. order+of+illuminati=201, the+jesuit+order=201.. etc)

[pers0n]

Maybe not all of it is as blatant...
Hitler and stalin both doing the same poses and masonic hand signs... as every single fucking other world leader today from those secret societies.. remember the detonation of guidestones in July? just like stalin's birth name letter numbers added up equal 322...
Detonating at exactly 4:33:33am on July 6, as in 7/6 or 76... Skull+and+Bones = 76... "bomb” is 76 in reverse ordinal gematria... July 6? Yes, George W. Bush’s 76th birthday! Guide stones were built on March 22, 1980. That is 3/22, as in Order 322, aka Skull and Bones. And that was 42 years ago, another one of the top special numbers... Freemason = 42, Jesuit = 42, etc... July 6th, 201-days after Pope Francis’s birthday.. The Jesuit Order = 201... Order of Illuminati = 201... just like the drag queen died 201 days after allegedly testing positive to the heavily occultic symbolic Corona... or Billy Gates' "event 201" simulation of it...
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The funeral itself was just a satanic fashion show or however you like to call it.






And trumps are all Jesuits cuming from jesuit universities.

[pers0n]

We will have to hire Cenk Uygur to perform exorcism in the name of @bean2k21 https://youtu.be/cAfJ5SXiIiM

[pers0n]

These shits have been transvestigated a billion times over the past decade.
Here is one part of my own recent transvestigation series on the four abominations:
https://youtu.be/-ZcabnLvJco

[lalaloveee]

As a demonologist, I care the protection of the personal rights of the demon as well as the victims and I don't approve that exorcise on name of the @bean2k21. We cannot point the demon a hotdog instead of a cross, the ritual must be done in accordance with the procedure

[bean2k21]

@pers0n None of the aforementioned have invited me to come in them and teach them the rewards of obedience. This is precisely why their lives are cursed.

[pers0n]

@lalaloveee so what if we point turkish hotdogs at the demon in the name of @bean2k21 ism? I mean if you really ask the demon, "did you really mind?"
What do you think the demon would say?

Yeah you're right, the demon told cenk:
"I'm not a dogwhgwhgwh"

Still as a @benevolent_dictator of the world, cenk has the authority to tell them to untrannify themselves and make crossdressing for satanic purposes illegal.

[lalaloveee]

What would the demon say? The demon will have a bigger problem than browsing the food menu we point at him, because he's probably will be busy getting rid of the bean2k21 trying to make him his slave

[lalaloveee]

Also you know what I'm thinking about your trannies opinions, if you babble away more about the Illuminati they'll break your bike and castrate you in a real ritual. The sad thing is that no one will be posting dramatic youtube videos for neither you, your precious organ or your bike. Forget it all, you're playing dangerous games

[pers0n]

@lalaloveee I don't know about you, but I wouldn't consider cenk Uygur's imaginary 4th dimensional cock as a food on any menu.
The demon would be so terrified that his only salvation would be to convince Cenk that he isn't a power-animal type of spirit.

[bean2k21]

@pers0n Have you not read the gospel? I restrained a demon, horsewhipped it, and sodomized it for 1,460 straight days, and the demon withered in exhaustion. It's kind of a specialty of mine.

[pers0n]

@lalaloveee there are therapists who treat them medically, still do regular internet discussions. Such as the one who posted this
https://youtu.be/KZi00sDD7dc

[MCheetah]

Individualist. I'd say 95% of people would end up massively disappointing me, if I gave them a chance. So I don't let myself get disappointed by them (anymore.)

[FinalFantasyBro]

I prefer being my own individual so I guess I am a individualism instead of a collective

[OddBeMe]

Imma collectivist who started my own company to collect other collectivists and make them collectively make me money. Suckers.

[MikeInHawaii]

Individualists. The people believing in collectivism usually don’t want to pull their own weight.

[bigpauly]

I’d like to think I’m more of an individualist

[AngryCarl]

We can achieve more together than anyone can alone, so I'm a frustrated collectivist because no one wants to work with me.

[shortster]

Individualist. I have seen Star Trek: First Contact.

[Soteris]

... You do realize that Star Trek is all about the benefits of collectivism right? The humans are governed by a world government that saved the planet and created a collectivist utopia.

[shortster]

@Soteris You realize that First Contact is about the Borg?

[Soteris]

Yeah. You realize that the whole series are built on a utopian human society?

[shortster]

It is a federation. Not a collective. And the series mostly revolves around the activities of the military. The member planets mostly do there own thing.

[Soteris]

The federation of planets is the collection of a bunch of species and by extension their own nations which includes humans but the humans are actually under the "United Earth" AKA "World Government".

[shortster]

That doesn't mean that the government they are under is a collectivist government.

[Soteris]

Being in a federation does not mean they are NOT under a collectivist government either but I digress, humanity did indeed form under a collectivist "big government" form of leadership that supposedly solved all the earths problems

[shortster]

Have you watched DS9? That series has the most civilian life than any of the other series. People go about their lives as they please. They don't live by the dictates of the government.

[Soteris]

That is not really what collectivism is. Star Trek is implied to be basically communism.

[shortster]

If it is supposed to be communist it is doing a poor job of representing that. Where are the reeducation camps? Where are the labor prisons? Where are the mass graves for political dissidents?

[Soteris]

You have a pretty inaccurate view of what communism actually is. Lets ask a different question. Why do you not see the crew on the spaceships use money to pay for food or beverages when using things like replicators?

[shortster]

Is it inaccurate? Maybe we should consult The Black Book of Communism? As for the lack of money, that isn't a hallmark of communism. Also it is a military ship; and while they don't often talk about their rations in most of the series; they do have replicator rations as seen in Voyager.

[Soteris]

It is not just the ship that does not have money, the whole federation does not as far as I remember. There are other currencies in the galaxy but the federation is notable in its absence.

Also I would love if you read from the "black book of Communism" as I have never even heard of such a thing.

[shortster]

It lists all the people who have died under communism at the time of it's publication.

[shortster]

www.amazon.com/.../0674076087

[Soteris]

Sorry dude but that has nothing to do with communism as a system. It is like making a list of all the people which has died since the invention of the cheese slicer. Yes, that is a real statistics you can compile and it does follow the invention of the cheese slicer but it has nothing to do WITH the slicer itself.

[shortster]

How so?

[Soteris]

Because Communism is a social and economic philosophy. It says nothing about how you rule the country and definitely nothing about how to exterminate people or discriminate against them. That pretty much just falls under normal dictatorship.

[shortster]

Okay, but communism always leads to gulags and bread lines.

[Soteris]

Why would you think that?

[shortster]

Everytime it is attempted 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Soteris]

You mean like all of two times and even then they were both communist in name only while in reality they were run as dictatorships.

In reality, the biggest problem with communism as envisioned is that they are always attempted through a socialist revolution. The problem with revolutions however is that they rarely ever go well and there is pretty much always a 3rd party dictatorship that ends up in power if the state looses.

This is true for normal revolutions (Which is something many Americans should take heed of right now) just as much as socialist revolutions. As such, having a brutal dictatorship following a socialist revolution is just part of the normal pattern of failed revolutions. It has nothing to do with the communist philosophy at all.

[shortster]

Two? It has been attempted more than twice.

[Fuentes]

Individual fuck everybody else I'm ME.

[LavLavLuv]

individualist!

[Agape93]

Individualist

[LiamJHayden]

Indie.