If forced birthers aka so called pro-lifers don't like abortion then how about they don't get one and stop forcing women to not access abortion?

[Anonymous]

If they don't like it then don't get one it is that simple, their so called belief is about taking a woman's choice to have an abortion. They don't give a fig about the life of the child after they force the mother to give birth and they feel they can change the legal definition of murder to abortion when it is not, if they can change the definition of murder then we can change the definition of racism to racism is prejudice plus power meaning all white people benefit from racism and have white privilege.

[Gummy_Cluster]

I read that there are about 400 companies that will pay to have their female employees shipped to other states to get an abortion. Some people think these companies are doing it out of the kindness of their heart. Really? Companies don't do anything out of the kindness of their heart. They do this so they don't have to pay maternity leave. It's pretty clever if you ask me.

[Anonymous]

You can’t legislate morality and that’s what pro-lifers want to do. It didn’t work during prohibition. It doesn’t work now with drugs, prostitution or gambling. If someone doesn’t believe in your moral code, they won’t live by it. It’s that simple. Women will just go to another state for abortions or seek them out under the table in their own.

[PraviteliNahuiValite]

What the f is mority to you? I am sorry but do you know how disgusting it is to read?

That is in fact part of what's said in the question. CHANGING the meaning of words.

Is prostitution, a transaction between two consenting adults harming anyone else? Does taking some unprescribed drugs harm anyone but potentially yourself? Does an idiot gambling somehow harm anyone but themselves? No. No. No.
There is nothing immoral in these things.

[Opinion Owner]

@PraviteliNahuiValite Morality is a personal judgment. It’s not set in stone. It’s simply a perception of right and wrong. What’s moral to you may not be to another and vice versa. It’s arrogant for anyone to assume they are the ultimate authority. The point is that you can’t enforce whatever your vision of morality is by law because people will do what they think is right regardless of that. Law only punishes after the fact.

[joeldalton]

Cool. Then we should make rape legal.

[PraviteliNahuiValite]

Haha, see? In your own words "assume the ultimate authority"

Which is immoral.

All human beings are equal, you do not own anyone except yourself.

^^^ proves morality is objective.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton In some cultures it is. What is legal or illegal is generally determined by the majority. I’m not advocating for any particular position. The point is that laws do not deter. Even the death penalty did not reduce the murder rate. We’re simply punishing after the fact and many “crimes” on the books do not directly affect society. It just offends people’s sensibilities. The U. S. is an incarceration happy country. The “land of the free” has the world’s largest prison and jail population. Think about that.

[joeldalton]

So then we should get rid of all laws by your metric.

[PraviteliNahuiValite]

@joeldalton I would agree with getting rid of man made laws, and living by the laws set by the creator. Not just physical ones such as gravity, but studying the mental and spiritual dynamics of the universe, such as karma.

[PraviteliNahuiValite]

I posted this before but they kept getting deleted...

Mainly by the know-it-alls, especially with the catholic schoolgirl syndrome, who ignore objective morality.

There are healthy and unhealthy behaviours and ways of thinking, which are measurable with medical instruments.
No one would argue that it's not unhealthy to have a paralyzed limb, right?
And it's just as unhealthy to have a brain hemisphere imbalance, whether it's harsh left brain dominance or soft right brain dominance.

One may say that slavery is not immoral because they enjoy being a slave.
But such a person's brain on a brain scan will show that it's unhealthy, besides the other problems that will arise in the physical body from it. Religious scammers for example, pray on people stuck in the right brain hemisphere.
A willing slave's brain scan will show no less brain damage, than what will be visible in a psychopath's brain.

Slavery is 100% immoral all of the time. Yet we are programmed to believe in the authority of government that is content with satanic paedophile rings, and pay them taxes to fund our own enslavement, so that our own people are sent to fabricated wars (which are utter dark religious blood sacrifices and rituals...)

It all comes full circle, the same roots cause most of the problems people argue about. We are all brainwashed, enslaved, and ignorant of how the world works. It is called "occult" for a reason, occult means hidden, and knowledge is power, the rulers maintain a power differential by keeping us ignorant and distracted with psyops, divide and conquer dems vs repubs. So many historical figures emphasized on the importance of knowledge in order for freedom to exists, the word liberty even has the same root word with library... need I go on?

[PraviteliNahuiValite]

I agree with something similar to what you said. We shouldn't be coercing others or changing the meaning of words.

[UCrayCray]

The definition of murder doesn’t need to be changed to include abortion. That’s ridiculous. Just making abortion illegal can qualify it for a murder charge.