Wait…I thought Russians were “fighting” Neo Nazism?

[OddBeMe]

Apparently it’s rife in their own ranks. This dude was pretty brutal and called for a genocide of Ukrainians. And a Chechen shot him, according to this Ukrainian newspaper.

[Stoner710]

There is a neo nazi unit in the Ukrainian military 99.8% aren’t neo Nazis. If it was the case that Russia attack Ukraine because they are Nazis then America is supporting the Nazis shouldn’t we be supporting the Russian?

by the way after that Ukrainian bomb that killed 2 farmers in Poland and Vladimir Zelenskyy trying to start ww3 I’m hoping Russia wins the war

[DryGermanGuy]

According to Russian propaganda shows (🤮) it’s Germany‘s fault all over again. By sending over Leopard tanks to Ukraine there are again Nazis fighting the good and honorable Russian.

[Anonymous]

Did you also read in Ukrainian newspapers that Nazi sympathizers Ukrainians tied many Russian civilians to poles and tortured them in public?

If you haven't read it, I wrote it in the GaG newspaper yesterday.

[Opinion Owner]

The link I added has not been added because my xper is insufficient. Check out my last question.

[OddBeMe]

Literally googled your statement. All I found was this: looters or mauraders tied to polls. Doesn’t mention torture.
observers.france24.com/.../20220404-ukraine-poles-public-humiliation-punishment-looting

However Russians torturing Ukrainians:

www.news.com.au/.../3a2abcc0a87815925dce0db9cee1c09a
www.hrw.org/.../ukraine-torture-disappearances-occupied-south

[Opinion Owner]

English sources are not entirely reliable. It is pointless to believe that the pro-Ukrainian media are reporting against them.

European media saying 'We share common civilization values with Ukraine', and they will add details of this news that 'How our Ukrainian friends torture Russian civilians, you will love it!' Do you really believe this?

The common social media platforms used by Russians and Ukrainians are overflowing with torture videos shared by Ukrainians.

I don't want to share these horrible videos, but know this, if it wasn't for the tons of torture to Russians from Ukrainians, Ukraine would not have passed laws to prevent these videos from being made.

The reason why I say this is not to make Russia innocent, but because you all see that Ukraine is not as innocent and civilized as you think. Even years before this war they were killing civilians in Donbass.

[Dіldophobe]

Can we get over the fallacy of "reliable source"...
There is no such thing as reliable sources. You always have to investigate claims for yourself no matter who says it.

Then... half the problem is missing info/censored/suppressed, and basically overabundance of deliberate nonsense. That's how occultism works. To occult/hide the truth it's not as effective to try hiding it as it is to create so much misinformation to blur it out.

So... google is literally hiding results that don't profit them, there nothing to do with credibility. Is that hard to understand?

Try using multiple search engines in addition like qwant. com

[Opinion Owner]

@Dіldophobe I'm not talking about what Google brings us, I'm talking about how realistic the news made by the media is. Don't equate Google with the media.

Realism is reliability. In this context, Sources that distort or hide the truth are not considered reliable. This is the case that is easy to understand.

[Dіldophobe]

I do equate google with the media because they're both put in front of our noses for a reason.

[Opinion Owner]

@Dіldophobe Search engines don't try to control the human mind, but the media does. Maybe if you consider the keyword, you can stop making the mistake of equating Google with the media, Mr Dildophobe.

[Dіldophobe]

Are you saying you haven't noticed that you can type the exact url or even the title of a youtube video and it didn't show up on google, while showing up on others?

[OddBeMe]

@Dіldophobe great screen name by the way

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

+95% of the deaths in the war occurred between 2014-2016 before a ceasefire was enacted (and in the weeks leading up to February 24th most ceasefire violations were committed by the separatists).

But there's been a propaganda campaign to portray the conflict as a popular uprising of the people of the Donbas against Kiev; it wasn't. It was more like a conflict between the pro-Kiev and pro-Moscow residents of the Donbas. You hear about how most of the fighting was between the separatists and far right militias (versus the Ukrainian army) but the reason that the far-right militias were so much more motivated than the Ukrainian army wasn't because they were far right but because they were originally from the region themselves. That's why the ceasefire line was in the middle of Donbas and to this day, Russia has been unable to drive Ukraine out of the Donbas.

[Leopard23]

I'm no saying I believe they should be executed but the Russians have been doing the exact same with foreign mercenaries and volunteers.

[Sasahara]

Just because Russian propaganda claim they are fighting neo nazis does not mean they do. Ukraine probably has some nazis, but to claim they are nazis like Russia did is stupid.

[OddBeMe]

Absolutely right. And Ukraine does have that one “Azov” battalion that’s infamous by now consists of like 20 guys. But I only mention this because Russians keep trying to tie nazism with Ukraine. Freudian slips…

[Leopard23]

At one time Israel had neo nazis, Russia did too.

[SixOfClubs]

There are no 'some' Nazis in Ukraine, there are 'armies' wearing Nazi crests and waving flags. A country's army is not something to be taken lightly with the word 'some'. In this context, calling those who adorn themselves with fascist symbols as Nazis is not stupidity, but a true accusation. The real stupidity is that the Ukrainian state allows its armies to advertise itself in this way.

[Dіldophobe]

@SixOfClubs it's all the same brain imbalance and political dialectic.. 9/10 of everything mark passio said is literally true and I'm only more reassured each year.

Mind control.

And yeah, Russians are taken into prisons, if they're released alive they always got broken fingers so they can't fight anymore... ukrainians are taken into prison, they promise they won't fight anymore so the russians release them... and they fight again.

[OddBeMe]

@Leopard23 wait go back…Israel had Neo Nazis? Please elaborate.

[Leopard23]

Patrol 36 The group's members were Russian immigrants that had Jewish roots aged 16 to 21.
Patrol 36 was active between 2005 and September 2007. The group desecrated buildings, especially synagogues, with swastikas and graffiti, and carried out attacks on migrant workers from Africa and Asia, drug addicts, members of the LGBT+ community, and Haredi Jews. Patrol 36's members reportedly had tattoos with the number 88 (a reference to the phrase "Heil Hitler"), and were stockpiling guns, TNT, knives and portraits of Adolf Hitler. The group produced videos of their own attacks, which were found on computers seized by police.
In the homes of those arrested, police also found links to neo-Nazi websites, neo-Nazi films, and photos of members in Nazi uniforms. The group planned to celebrate the birthday of Adolf Hitler in front of Yad Vashem, a Holocaust memorial site. According to police, Patrol 36 maintained connections with neo-Nazi organisations in other countries

[OddBeMe]

@Leopard23 interesting, googling now, thanks!

[ironsteelbirade]

There are nazis on both sides lol, you should see photos from the wars, tons of bases in Russia Ukraine Chechnya Hungary Georgia etc with nazi flags in them.

[Sevenpointfive]

this isn't a putin war. i haven't heard him talk about it in a long time

[OddBeMe]

Huh? Who else would it be?