"Slaves built this country" (United States) true or false, your thoughts on this short clip by Disney?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

[NamerOfStars]

Utter nonsense. Indians built this country; the Europeans just expanded into it after disease wiped out 90% of the native population. We didn't prosper just because the land is rich and far away from anyone willing and able to harm us; a HUGE amount of land-clearing and infrastructure was already in place. Given how little is known about most of the Indian civilizations, I suppose it's possible that some or even most of that was done by slaves (or slave-analogues), but it sure as hell wasn't the ancestors of whiny entitled black people perpetually mired in self-righteous indignance. It wasn't MY definitively non-black slave ancestors, either, but I'm guessing Disney's not going to acknowledge that. Picking cotton and dropping from malaria doesn't get cities built, let alone countries.

Hell, even the Chinese have a better claim, since railroad labor was what made us a COUNTRY, rather than just a confederation. Actually, that had a large number of black laborers, too- and Irish. But acknowledging and making restitutions for THAT atrocity would mean admitting it's about wealth, not race or sex or religion, and pretty much burning at the stake anyone caught using Amazon. I don't see that happening.

Come to think of it, if Disney wants to give slavery and its legacy proper due, why do they still hide Song of the South?

[exitseven]

Who built the skyscrapers and highways? Who invented the telephone and the electric light bulb? Who made the factories and the banks? It was Americans.

[NamerOfStars]

@exitseven Yes, but we had "the country" before those things existed. I suppose if you mean "the country as it currently stands", then yes, of course it was Americans. But slaves didn't build skyscrapers or superhighways, either.

Interestingly, I've read that many early skyscrapers WERE built (in part) by Indians, since they culturally had no fear of heights (I have no idea how that would be CULTURAL, but that's what I've read). Obviously that was in the modern era, though.

[exitseven]

yes, but they were still Americans. That is my point. My grandparents came over on the boat pre WW2 and they were among the people who built
America.

[Anonymous]

Where is my money for my oppressed ancestors?

Demanding compensation for anything you did not personalty experience is thief.

You are NOT your father much-less your great-great-grandfather. You are no more entitled to the fruits of his labor than you are guilty of his crimes. It is also a compete violation of the constitution to pass such an ex-post facto law.


This demand for reparations is really just the latest excuse to buy votes for democrats from the black community.

[VIVANT]

Ik at the library with no head phones so I’m not watching the clip but yes forces enslaved peoples labor was exploited in field production agriculture & Infrastructure (not limited to African American enslaved peoples, but predominantly) through the land including the White House.

Today, 167 countries still have some form of modern slavery, which affects an estimated 46 million people worldwide. Currently, there are 19 states with constitutions that explicitly permit either slavery, involuntary servitude, or both as punishment for a crime.

Mass incarceration, and the criminalization of poverty, is modern-day slavery in the United States. Nearly two million incarcerated people in the United States have no protection from legal slavery. A disproportionate percentage of them are Black and people of color.

[ObscuredBeyond]

For that, just look at what's marketed to those demographics. Marketing debasement yields subcultural debasement. Subcultural debasement leads to ethnic statistical probability of wrongdoing escalating. This skewers the results so that more non-whites in general commit crimes. More to that, they're more likely to get careless regarding how they commit crimes, meaning they get caught more easily.

As a guy who was in jail with D'Souza said: "Smart criminals win elections. It's the stupid ones that go to jail."

Where this can really show, is in Florida. DeSantis cracking down on pedo teachers is but scraping a little off the tip of a humongous iceberg that is everything wrong with Florida's education system. Which only functions because of the retirees from up north fed up with the corruption up north, who bring their kids that were bankrupted due to all the corruption down with them. Those kids get a fresh start, and become the brains keeping the state afloat. But due to being from everywhere, can't always find someone to unite with that shares enough common subculture to coalesce a bond around. And then there's the locals, who are woefully deprived and mistrusting.

When the state-funded local colleges have an IT department with almost zero computer tech, and no beginner's courses on teaching students even the most basic things about IT, and are ready to hire you off the street simply for knowing what a virtual machine is... that's a small sample of how much Florida education struggles. Which should help you understand why most of the weirdest crimes happen in Florida.

[Adaeva]

Complete nonsense. Slaves were a small percent of the population and, like most people, contributed little more than what was necessary to survive.

[KostasKouvalis]

Finally someone who knows what they're talking about

[Leopard23]

No. Settlers coming from Europe who settled on frontier land built this country. They did it all at great risk. Slaves built the wealth of plantation owners.

https://youtu.be/RHEN7BOaqHUhttps://youtu.be/Bk7HO1ymqbI

[ODC2112]

The slaves didn't build anything. The economy of the southern states was an agricultural economy oriented to the exploitation of the land, devoid of any form of industrial expansionism.
The slaves didn't build anything. The Southern economy was not strong enough to even win the war against the poor North. The expansion and construction of the United States occurred after the Civil War and was driven by the White North and European immigrants, especially Germans, Italians, Irish and Poles. Until the 1940s, as stated in the Myrdal report, African Americans were considered only a useless burden that had lost its usefulness decades ago, i. e. with the end of the slave regime in the southern USA.

[Stoner710]

False, one could agree slavery built some states but not all, one could argue slavery built the south that is true. But that maybe 11 states Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina and Virginia. one could argue that slavery build Alaska, but those were white slaves enslaved by the Russian Nordic Swedish Ukrainian etc not African slaves. Most escape to Washington, and Oregon. But no the entire United States was not built by slaves.

[Dargil]

We have generations taught communist propaganda and nonsense. The original British and western European settlers built supported by waves of other Irish, Scottish, Polish and Italian immigrants. Even a few Russians and Eastern Europeans. Amerindians built very little due to continual tribal warfare and admittedly bad mistreatment by the settlers. African slaves didn't build the nation either even if they were compelled to work on it. The fact is that western European invented and built almost everything, although East Asians and Desi are now part of that creative power. Except for the Communist Chinese, we should open the door to both.

[ObscuredBeyond]

They forgot indentured Irish servants, hardworking free men, volunteers, inventors, and quite a few others that are inconvenient to the narrative. Disney fails history forever.

And has no room to be this pompous and self-righteous, given how it treated the animators of the original Proud Family.

[KostasKouvalis]

I disagree. Only 10% of African slaves came to the U. S. Most of them were sent to the Caribbean and South America. The plantation economy wasn't that big here. The Whites and the Chineses contributed the most by setting up a government and building infrastructure. I seriously doubt that the people who build the most beautiful cities on earth, sailed the globe and mapped the cosmos, needed a bunch of primitive jungle dwelling Africans to built their country

[elew4too]

It was a team effort. I hate when we compare our ancestors' suffering. Everyone thinks their ancestors had the worst of it. . . truth is, every oppressed ethnic group struggled and contributed in different ways to their society. Quantifying their struggle or contribution relative to other groups is merely a way to keep us divided.

[DaveJord]

They forcibly participated in the process... but slaves them sleeves did not build it alone. But their contributions were note worthy.

Now one can say their descendants are trying to rebuild or reimage the country... and they are actually being very successful about it.

[DubiousIntentions]

No, it was immigrants from China, Ireland, Italy, and a few other nations that toiled to build railroads, and that allowed the US to be settled.

[Exterminatore]

Exactly right. Well said.

[FilmGuy93]

It's kind of true, but it's such dishonest framing. Saying that slaves built this country is like saying construction workers should get all the credit for building skyscrapers because architects just draw the things.

Like... no... I really wish we would stop bullshitting people in this country.

[Robbey]

It’s oversimplifying history to the point of caricature.

New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago and others were largely built by immigrants, Irish especially, and their children and grandchildren.

[Alex8736]

what makes me shake my head is seeing Andrew Jackson still on the $20 bill after seizing and massacring the native American Indians and their land (Trail Of Tears) followed by being a slave owner but when Abraham Lincoln abolished slavery Andrew Jackson needed a new con game which Nathan Bedford Forest founded the KKK Disney has gotten so woke and ignorant trying to rewrite history

[Anonymous]

wtf is this. this is complete bullshit and nonsense. being a tv show that is widely watched by the young, they need to get their facts straight. and i use to love the proud family. PSH!

[RealMarek]

No. Slaves harvested cotton and other crops in a limited area of the country for the most part. They certainly did not build the country.

[VIVANT]

In the movies it’s always the cotton but irl, Enslaved people were sent all over the country to build all the infrastructure including and not limited to the White House.

[RealMarek]

@VIVANT of course there were cases in which they built things, but yet again these were concentrated in the South and even there they were a tiny minority of the people who built infrastructure. This is because slave ownership was concentrated on privately-owned agricultural operations. The 1619 Project and similar rewriting of history is full of lies.

[Exterminatore]

@VIVANT

All over the country is a stretch. North of the Mason Dixon line, slavery was outlawed. Both owning them and using them. Once they crossed that line they were free so long as they weren’t apprehended under the fugitive slave laws.

Do you speak Latin by the way? Your screen name means living or alive in Latin.

[AngryCarl2]

Well for a start that's nonsense. In America slaves mainly picked cotton. That's hardly what I'd call building a nation. Certainly they were a source of very cheap labour.

[Exterminatore]

FALSE! They worked plantations, all of which benefitted their master solely and not the country.

[SpokenTruth]

Yet again another effort to discredit white men. Search for photos of men that built the 1920's skyscrapers and see.

[suisuiola]

If you say false, you're a racist, a terrible person and delusional, idc.

[Pterodon]

Bullshit. You could say slaves built Rome and Egypt but you won’t

[AimeeKyle]

All nationalities have built / made our country (the US) into what it is today. I am not quite certain why so many individuals are so infatuated with separating/highlighting specific groups…..

[bean2k21]

I'm pretty sure computers built this country, and they're a piece of property, so...

[Dіldорhоbe]

No, computers did not build the United States. The United States was built by a combination of hardworking people, entrepreneurs, and leaders, who created the infrastructure and institutions that have led to the country’s success.

[OddBeMe]

They literally built and rebuilt the White House after the Brit’s burned it down.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

So building a big house by force means great success for a country? Are this dull?

[Avicenna]

He is that dumb.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Avicenna: Between him and the other moron Stortis I think is his name... its hard to choose lol..

[OddBeMe]

Kind of an important building that symbolizes my point. But guess it went over your heads.

Let’s see, gdp per every year slaves were kept in the south…. that’s a pretty good chunk of our wealth back then.

[exitseven]

no, Amaricans built this country.

[Gummy_Cluster]

If you read the history of this, it's interesting. Africans weren't the first try at making slaves. They tried people from many countries and islands. They flat out refused to be slaves, so they were killed.
I've asked this question online (of course not this site) "Why did slaves bring babies into the world?"
Wow, that ruffles some feathers. They said that it's because they figured that slavery would end, and the kids would have a chance. I'm not buying that for a minute. So now Disney is pedaling their crap about white supremacy. There are more slaves now in Africa, then there ever were in the US.

[Anonymous]

We freed the slaves from their own people. The democrats owned them for a brief period unfortunately.

[Zayed_]

Is the united states a real country to begin with!!!

[purplepoppy]

Picking cotton isn't building a country

[Dіldорhоbe]

Picking cotton is an important part of building a country because it provides jobs and supports the economy. Cotton is a versatile and essential crop in many countries and it is used in everything from clothing to food. By picking cotton, workers are able to support their families and the country’s economy by providing a valuable resource. Additionally, the money generated from selling cotton is used to fund other industries such as healthcare, education and infrastructure. Ultimately, picking cotton is an important part of building a country.

[Avicenna]

Of course not.

[PatriceONeal]

Disney has really let themselves go.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

100%. It's been ruined.

[msc545]

Definitely true.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Picking cotton builds a country to great success? 😂

[msc545]

What success? Income inequality and constant war?

[Anonymous]

Slaves, chinese, many Europeans. Yes slaves did play a large hand in it.

[the-mad-german]

Thats bullshit.

[gorydetails]

False. Disney is full of shit.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Complete and utter trash

[malwins]

Ummm yeah?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Of course not. Black/slaves didn't built nor have the intellectual capacity to built a very strong sustaining organized economic, educational and political system within a country especially the U. S. which is a very powerful country.

All black led countries are dirt poor and disorganized, and those that have a bit of success is because the white men helped, not because the black men figured it out on their own.

[malwins]

How come all the Dominicans are racist?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Not true. If most Dominicans were racist there wouldn't be one Haitian living in DR right now and we have millions of illegal Haitians there for decades right now causing hell and trouble.

[Gummy_Cluster]

Don't confuse the woke Disney people with the real world.

[Exterminatore]

She said: “how come ALL Dominicans are racist”

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Making sweeping statements of that nature about other ethnicities and nationalities is racist itself.

[Anonymous]

Yes, black people built America

[Anonymous]

Woke BS