Three-year-old girl accidentally shoots sister, 4, dead in Texas, so sad?

[Anonymous]

To the Gun-Crazy, Gun-Obsessed Americans, do you still say, "Guns don't kill, people do?"
Girl killed sibling in family home with semi-automatic pistol but unclear if any of five adults present will face charges.

[Leopard23]

This is just bad child safety akin to leaving bleach around for the kids to get into, leaving plastic bags around for kids to affixiate on, having no child safety fence around your pool, letting your child play in traffic, leaving your kid alone with a pit bull, having a large python or boa constrictor on your home with kids, having no or the wrong child seat in your car.

More than 7,000 children and teens age 0-19 died because of unintentional injuries in 2019. That is about 20 deaths each day. Leading causes of child unintentional injury include motor vehicle crashes, suffocation, drowning, poisoning, fires, and falls. Child injury is often preventable.,

[NamerOfStars]

Of course- because guns DON'T kill people. Why do you think- HOW do you think- the murder rate in Switzerland is so low?

Hell, if you want to play the correlation game, I'd point out that SOCCER kills people at a far higher rate, and the US leads the charge on fighting THAT.

[OddBeMe]

More Guns = More Gun deaths. Can’t get around this math.

[Guffrus]

Except that that is total bullshit.

There are plenty of countries which have plenty of guns who do not have the problems that America has.

This is an America problem, not a gun problem.

[OddBeMe]

@Guffrus please provide. Any country with lots of guns has lots of gun deaths AND crime.

Prove me wrong.

[Guffrus]

en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

[OddBeMe]

@Guffrus lol. Firstly it’s alphabetical. So look at the center column “homicide”. Those countries with the highest: Jaimaica, Venezuela, South Africa. Guns and gun deaths. And we ain’t far behind.
www.usnews.com/.../how-the-u-s-compares-to-the-world-on-guns

[Guffrus]

Actually you can order the table in any way that you want by clicking on the top of each column, so no it is not 'alphabetical' unless you want it to be.
Hopefully now that I have exposed your childish ignorance you will at least have stopped laughing even if you are not capable of realising that the data does not support your premise.
It clearly shows that there is no correlation between how many guns there are and how many deaths or murders there are, some countries have many guns and few murders, some have many murders and few guns, there is simply no relationship.
So what you think is wrong and I have demonstrated that you are wrong.
The highest on the list is El Salvador and if you click on the link to that country and go down to the crime section it will tell you that there are historically (because there was a new government and crack down on gangs) a lot of gang problems, so perhaps and I haven't looked at the data there is a better correlation and more importantly causal relationship between gangs and murders?

[OddBeMe]

@Guffrus wait you don’t think Mexico and Venezuela are loaded with guns? You’re an idiot. It’s 2am. I should leave you to your idiocy.

Check out my link. US is right next to mid east and African war zones.

[OddBeMe]

Also, I don’t care about your ridiculous gang theory. I look at amount of guns and gun deaths. PERIOD.

[Guffrus]

What the fuck is wrong with your brain?

I have explained it to you and shown you the data.

THERE IS NO CORRELATION.

I have made no specific comment relating to Mexico or Venezuela, nor am i required to.

[Guffrus]

I'm pretty sure we have been down this road before, more than once.

I prove you are wrong and you just don't get it because you are completely fucking retarded.

[Guffrus]

What is the point in asking for data when you are not capable of understanding what any of it means?

[OddBeMe]

@Guffrus and click total guns per 100,000 and deaths rise significantly. We’re next to fckin Serbia bruh…

[Guffrus]

THERE IS NO CORRELATION.

[OddBeMe]

@Guffrus. Please explain. Why does the US have 30,000 gun deaths and all of Europe just 1000?

[OddBeMe]

Per year by the way.

[Guffrus]

Dude, I have gone over this already, its right there in front of your stupid face, if you aren't going to read it then just fuck off.

[OddBeMe]

@Guffrus Sp we’re seeing the same data on wiki and seeing two different things? I click on “guns per 100” arrows, which order the countries by that. And as gun amounts rise the number of guns deaths rise in each category. I mean there are outliers like Barbados…but the pattern is fckin clear.

[Guffrus]

@OddBeMe Correct, we are seeing 2 different things.

I am perceiving objective reality and you are seeing what you want to see.

In order for your premise to be correct there would have to be a correspondingly high number of deaths / murders with a high number of guns and there simply isn't.

There is no correlation what so ever, some countries have high guns and low deaths like Canada, 34.7 guns and only 1.94 deaths most of which, 1.4 is suicide not murder and others have high deaths / murders and low guns the most extreme example is El Salvador 5.8 guns and 78.5 deaths, this is very high which is why i mention gangs previously.
Brazil and Portugal are adjacent on the table when ordered by gun numbers 8.6 and 8.5 and yet the deaths are completely different 23.93 vs 1.48 totally fucking different, no correlation.

So you are wrong.

Ok?

Is the 18th time the charm?

Are you going to get it this time?

If you were correct Brazil and Portugal would HAVE TO HAVE a similar amount of deaths, but they don't.

[Guffrus]

Low numbers of guns and low numbers of deaths would also have to be true.

[OddBeMe]

@Guffrus Answer my question: Why does the US have 30,000 gun deaths per year and Europe has only 1000?

[gorydetails]

how could a three-year-old pull the trigger since you say the guns kill people?

[Brando10222]

Guns should be fully banned for civilians lol