Are you able to decide who lives and who dies?

[OddBeMe]

Fresh water, food and fertile soil are becoming rare commodities. Are you comfortable with deciding who gets to live? Either directly or indirectly?

Saying America First is deciding indirectly FYI.

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https://youtu.be/CBD5OgbZjV8

[Leopard23]

We are paying farmers not grow stuff. The countries you talk about like Zimbabwe and south Africa have plenty of growing room but have been mismanaged since certain people were removed from government.

Soil erosion is a big deal and the US needs to address this issue along with drought.

America needs to address its own issues first.

[OddBeMe]

90% of crops are corporate gmo grown. “Farmers” don’t really exist anymore.

[Leopard23]

True. Its very telling that billionaires are buying up acres and acres of land.

[OddBeMe]

And calling it a farm for tax incentives and money laudering.

[Leopard23]

That too but land has immense value

[OddBeMe]

Sure, but they’re claiming they’re farms to get farm subsidies, when they’re not. Ironically a lot GOP aholes.

[Leopard23]

It's not GOP assholes it's anyone with money.

[OddBeMe]

True, but when politicians make such a huge display of support for farmers, and pull this…it matters more.

[normalice]

Yes. I'm aware of the fact that there is no way to know and so someone choosing only accomplishes relieving everyone else of that burden. And being at least a little solemn and considerate about it lets others believe it isn't random. The dead will be dead. It is all about getting the living to be able to live with themselves.

[Agape93]

Absolutely. I don't value human life to begun with, save for a few people. I have 0 moral issues deciding this.

[msc545]

Actually, I am. I don't like to think too much about it as it weighs heavily on me.

[OddBeMe]

Honestly prob me too

[coachTanthony]

Most places that have photos like this need air drops of condoms with proper instructions. After that if babies are still starving then we now know the issue.

[monorprise]

Fresh food, water, and even soil are thing you can make if you are free and know how.

[OddBeMe]

So you think there are infinite resources?

[monorprise]

@OddBeMe
Althou resources are not infinite they are in fact more than plentiful enough if you know how to and are able to use them.

The trouble with most people in starving countries is they lack the freedom and the knowledge to make use of what they have.

A lot of it comes down to a lack of property rights and as such a lack of motivation to put the time and resources into a solution that will only be promptly stolen. Whether this be done where they are or in trade, it prevents their local innovators from building the industry that would make them wealthy.

[OddBeMe]

Ehh, I agree that science will probably make a last minute ultra desalination machine before we die of thirst. But poor people won’t be able to get it.

You say starving people are just too lazy to feed themselves. Not really. They’re controlled by too many outside powers. And yes, perhaps education is kept from them. But laziness isn’t the problem.

[monorprise]

There is no disputing @OddBeMe that their present circumstances are unlikely to be mended in an acceptable timely manner. They can however be mended by such means as they were all over the world where employed and to ignore theses facts is only to doom them to the perpetuation of said cercomstances.

[Leopard23]

There are desalination machines. Israel and Saudi Arabia have them. Its all to do with energy and the cost of producing desalinised water. It's like why don't we produce gasoline out of coal? We've been able to do this since the 1920s Germany fueled their war machine during WW2 but the reason we don't do it is because it costs less to make fuel out of the crude oil we find in the ground.

[Leopard23]

youtube.com/shorts/RLb801COTkY?feature=share

[OddBeMe]

@Leopard23 I get you. But I said “ultra” desalination. Boom!

[monorprise]

You are putting words into my mouth @OddBeMe
I did not say people are starving because they are lazy, I said the opposite, people they are starving because they lacked the freedom, and knowledge to freed themselfs.

The point is their problem is solvable.

[OddBeMe]

I guess I don’t have research or knowledge enough to dispute. I search your ideas online and get nothing. Starving villages in Africa are that way because of the dictators we fund. Yeah they might be able to grow some food. But that won’t solve all their problems.

And it takes a lot of ancillary items to buy to grow crops or harvest fresh water. Again…. poor.

[Sevenpointfive]

uh, if i did decide, we'd live in a much better world

[OddBeMe]

Where would I fall?

[Sevenpointfive]

i don't want you to die but i'm not gonna offer you help either. i hope that helps

[Juxtapose]

Well duh, my country comes first because those are the people I have to live with.

[OddBeMe]

You are so liberal…

[Juxtapose]

Yep, unlike the people emptying our coffers and pouring it over Ukraine and the rest of the world. Fuck the rest of the world, we need to fix our own house that is on fire before we put out other fires.

[OddBeMe]

That nationalist sociopathic feelings aren’t liberal.

[Juxtapose]

In an airplane, do you put the oxygen mask on yourself first or the person next to you?

As a country we have a duty to look after our own citizens first. Our citizens are the ones that pay into this country and they are the ones we must live with. The concept of living as a global society is impractical and doesn't make sense.

[Juxtapose]

But most of all, we must look after ourselves first. Nobody besides perhaps a few is going to care more about you than yourself.

[OddBeMe]

Why should airlines bother? They should just worry about their property. Not the passengers.

[Juxtapose]

That's not a valid comparison. You are comparing human life with an the object.

Not to mention you would never get any business with a mindset like that! Really poor comparison dude.

[Juxtapose]

If your house is on fire and somebody else's house is on fire, you're going to put your house out first.

[Juxtapose]

*with an inanimate object

[OddBeMe]

Put your home first and let your neighbor’s house fry and then buy their property for a pittance.

[exitseven]

Make America Great Again.

[OddBeMe]

When was it great? Got a date in mind?

[exitseven]

As bad as 2020 was with the pandemic I now look upon it as the good old days.

[OddBeMe]

Introverted too eh?

[exitseven]

Well, let's just say I am low key.

[gorydetails]

America first for sure.

[OddBeMe]

You fascists should really retire that line…

[gorydetails]

You globalist shitbags should go play in traffic.

[OddBeMe]

And your comebacks are even worse.

[gorydetails]

You idiots don’t know what fascism is.

[OddBeMe]

We can see it in poser “strongman” republicans.

[gorydetails]

You see that because you’re idiots.