Do you agree or disagree with white fragility author that people of color need to "get away from white people?"?

[SolitarySolace]

timcast.com/.../

https://youtu.be/TSZyembWSts

I agree that people of color need to get away from white people

I disagree. Segregation is wrong!

A total of 10 votes were cast: 3 girls and 7 guys. See detailed results

[Exterminatore]

If they’re black people who believe they’re currently oppressed in the west, should receive slave reparations, believe in systematic racism, believe all white people are automatically racist at birth and are born oppressors of all other races, if they’re BLM supporters, and if they believe in white fragility, then not only should they get away from white people but the rest of the human race. Perhaps we can find them an island where they can foment their hatred and live and die away from the rest of us.


This white guy actively seeks to avoid such toxic people.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Look at what happens to them when they get rid of white people. Their society doesn't exactly turn into Wakanda... no... they usually start begging the white people to come back.

Look at South Africa... which is at the starting process of that.

Look at Zimbabwe... which is the result of that.

[Friendlybro79]

Look what happened since White people are running society. They scam all races out of their money via white collar crime and when they're in power they keep wages down and aim to please the top one percent of the one percent in society. And two deflect focus away they start race wars with each other and create us vs them. They laugh at all of the poor white people that think they think they care about you like you're better just because you're white.

This being said that this doesn't mean all white people are ok with this and it doesn't represent us all if any of us were in power. Just the same way your attempt to make all black people look incapable isn't true.

We will do better together if we stop having these kinds of thoughts about all (insert any race here)

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Friendlybro79 Okay... I can respect this approach to a point. I have videos of what happens in what neighborhood during hard times though.

Would you really want to fuck around and find out? Not me bro... I know where I'd be safer and get a night's sleep.

[Friendlybro79]

And I understand your point in saying how hard these neighborhoods can be. Imagine what it's like for the folks that aren't able to afford to leave or born there. Do I want to f around and find out. Well yes I do. I sometimes do things where I can help which I'm not here to talk about me. It can be unsafe or feel that way but this is what makes humans special. Some of us need to get in there and help. Should you be ridiculed for wanting to be safe... no. That's human too. We need reg people as well as government to help us. We should all be able to feel safe and get a nights sleep. My big issue is when people just blame the folks for not being able to easily get themselves out of it or make them out to all be animals.

If your neighborhood became unsafe let's see how easy it is for you to sell your home and leave. You'd be stuck wishing to God that people help you.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Friendlybro79 I think we've found our middle ground. I would push a little more into the self-preservation side of things... and there just isn't any way around the race issue when it comes to that.

Like yes, there are loveable pitbulls... raised wrong though... They'll eat you alive. Nobody has issues recognizing the differences in dogs... people though...

You see where I'm coming from? I'm not trying to be all hateful and shit. But lets be real about it though.

[Friendlybro79]

You might not be trying to be hateful but when you make an example that some pitbulls are nice but raised wrong they'll eat you alive you're comparing people to good and bad animals because you're looking at these people like they're ALL animals in these neighborhoods. Let's be real is me acknowledging your statements are why racism is still here. Whether that's your intention or not that's what it is. For it to change you would need to have more empathy and be more willing to make it that we're all part of the solution. Otherwise we are part of the problem which is no wonder nothing changes

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Friendlybro79 Man, you got a point. But wouldn't this be like (let's race swap to gender for a second) not telling a boy that there are chicks out there that just want his money? Just shutting our mouths about the truth is just going to make easy victims of the truth... when we could've been giving them 2 red pills a day about how it really is.

Yeah bro... I'm not going to tell my kid, "Hey... those people over there are really loveable and will treat you right," just to see him on the news as murdered. I'm going to spread the word... never relax, around a _____! You burn the coal, you'll pay the toll! Statistical facts back it up. I'm not wrong. The simple fact that you can't tell me I'm wrong because of facts kinda puts your "pretend to be ignorant for the benefit of the people" argument to rest. Anyone can already walk through my neighborhood and not get touched... you know which neighborhoods where that just isn't going to happen... that's me dropping that black pill and a couple of red ones.

Just ask my black friend, he agrees 😂

[Friendlybro79]

I appreciate you're seeing my point. I don't think changing the subject is helping your case, but I can't try to change your beliefs and I think they're too stereotyped. I've walked through "bad" neighborhoods for work with a shirt and tie and stuck out like a sore thumb and was treated better than any rich white neighborhood. Only gun ever pointed at me was from a white guy while I was in the street lol. Just be nicer and don't think all blank are blank. When you do that you're an idiot and a racist. You don't appear to be an idiot so just help out when you can and do a nice deed when you can and it will be better than nothing.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Friendlybro79 Yeah no doubt. This conversation with you has me thinking about things. I might make changes in time... but oh damn, I have some horror stories I could tell. I'll just say I wasn't made this way overnight and I've had to put a guy in prison for life. The rest were minors... but at least I didn't have to pay my hospital bills.

I guess you could say I've already learned the hard way. Would prefer others to not make the same mistake if you can feel what I'm saying.

[D_Bone_Steak]

2 guys... the cops waited for the Mexican kid to turn 18 and then they went after him too. They waited so they could charge him as an adult.

[Friendlybro79]

Sorry to hear about your experience. I've had one myself where I was assaulted by someone for no reason. Just out of the blue. The white guy that did it didn't make me think all white people are the same or that I shouldn't trust anyone who's white. I do understand that when you have experiences that it can shape you and create defense mechanisms. That's human. I agree that is a tough challenge for some people in that have encountered bad experiences to not feel the way you describe. It doesn't mean that all insert whatever race are good by thinking they're not all bad. Some people are just not good. Look at the situations that make it easier for folks to turn crime and realize no one is trying to fix the situation and help make it a better one. Also look deep into why these situations have come to this and why they're where they are and you'll find circumstances can be a major part in someone turning to crime. I'm not delusional and I do think people can make a choice to get out of a bad situation. But that said I realize if they could they would.

They don't have hope they don't have support and they don't have enough support from society to step up and help. If you grow up in a bad environment as a child and have to fight to stay alive you'll never know that unless it's you going through it.

Again I'm sorry about your bad situation. I think your honesty and openess about how you feel is refreshing honestly because that allows for discussion. Also, I'm not the morality police so I know I'm not perfect, but I genuinely wish we were all nicer to other and could forgive more. From there if can get past despising each other for whatever reason we can possibly all move forward together.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Friendlybro79 A big step for me was driving past his house with a fully loaded AR-15 (I got those 40 round magazines) and I was about to go ape shit and just mow down like 30 people... I was like, I need to stop. Just let the justice system do what it's going to do. It was heart breaking and yet like I was doing something right at the same time... I just kept driving.

As I stated the court system did get him. Thanks for giving me the heart-to-heart I probably needed. Nothing was fun about the court case or how my wife describe the pictures of me all jacked up. They had to sow my mouth back together. Pretty sure they just wanted to rape the two Asian girls... My Mexican homies girl and mine. It ended with me getting stomped on and my Mexican dude taking the knife out of my pocket and chasing them around all night. The girls were safe though. I'll tell you in detail what happened in a private message if you want to hear it... shit was bullshit. I just came back to the United States too and it was my first dose of being back. I didn't know the dude and never even spoke words to the dude... it was even in military housing. Dumb assess built a damn basketball court in housing right next to section 8 housing. All kinds of stupid man... I don't even want to go into it. I was just finishing my accounting degree... just did 6 years overseas being forward deployed... shit was stupid fucked up. I really didn't deserve that welcome-home type of shit.

Yeah... reasons. I wasn't made this way overnight. Before that I literally thought racism was dead. I really did. I mean military lifestyle... you work with these guys. You're a team. Shit on the street is just different.

[Friendlybro79]

Your personal experience is clearly just.. wow... glad you're ok and got through this. I'm sorry it happened to you. I'm also glad you were able to keep driving and let law enforcement do it's thing. I imagine that was incredibly difficult but you did the right thing. I'm also glad the law took care of it. I know that isn't always the case. I can understand why it's hard for you to think like me. I haven't experienced your experiences and been tested like that. Also, I can tell you're a good person who has gone through some bad shit. They say time heals all wounds so hopefully as time goes on it helps.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Friendlybro79 Man... I've just become a person that avoids particular situations and urges others to just avoid it as well. The hateful sentiments I might carry over in the thought process is just the bad shit I can't forget.

I'll put it like this... the black dude I lived with for 3 years and we still talk, I brought a black friend to his house and he pulled me aside..."Dude, don't ever bring n*****s to my house again." I wished I took his words to heart before I ended up on the shit end of a stick with a situation.

That was in Japan though and I had no idea how rotten shit had gotten back in the states. Guess I fucked around and found out.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Damn... that dude is running in politics now (republican) and trying to get me to do podcasts with him. Not going to say his name, but damn. Just pointing out I'm not all just racist and shit. I'm about as racist as one of them. lolz Feel what I'm saying? Life just forced me to be a realist I think.

[FeelingGroovy]

All the bat-shit crazy wokeness is coming from moronic white people like her.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/yW2LpFkVfYk

I feel so sorry for black people in this woke white society.

[Exterminatore]

I feel sorry if the rest of us who have to listen to degenerates like that.

[FeelingGroovy]

@Exterminatore
They have no clue how racist they are.

[Exterminatore]

When someone holds beliefs like all white people are automatically racist at birth and white people are the oppressors of all other races…. yup, that’s a racist.

Of course no other race can be racist. Only white people.

These people are such degenerates they can’t tell fact from fiction.

[FeelingGroovy]

@Exterminatore

Very true.

[RealMarek]

I think people should be able to associate freely with whoever they want, so if they want to segregate I would not stop them. But should? I don’t think so. I grew up in one of the few racially integrated places I’ve seen and there was no problem until affirmative action started to cause pain and the “woke” ideologues came along and made everyone obsess about race.

As for Robin DiAngelo, she is unironically a bigot. She makes bigotted statements in her book.

[blueonblack22]

nobody should even consider taking that radical leftist moron author seriously to begin with

[Dargil]

Maybe White people should get away black feralness and their epidemic of violent crime.

[jshm2]

Run of the mill isolationist thinking.

You laugh at such dimwits.

[Jamie05rhs]

A white person telling people of color to remove themselves from "white spaces." That sounds familiar. Where have I heard that before? 🤔

[gorydetails]

Wait, wasn’t that exactly what Scott Adams said but he was ‘cancelled’?

[LaFerrari]

Funny, a white liberal woman talking about race…

[Snakeyes7]

Bye! No one wanted you around anyway.