I know I’ll get a lot of flak for saying this, but can the lgb part separate from the tia+? we’re tired of being dragged into this crap?

[DexWest]

[CheeseMonster]

You mean like, individually? Sure. Nothing physically stopping you from supporting gay rights and opposing trans rights at the same time. Personally (and ik I'll get a lot of flack for saying this as well) while I support gay rights legally, I'm not fully convinced that gay relationships are morally permissible. And I know this will mean I have very little if any room in the LGBT+ community. But it's a personal thing for me.

But if you want the whole community to split, we'll then you'd have to convince a lot of people. Lucky for you there's already some people trying to do just that. So it's a possibility. It would be kind of unfortunate, since trans people were helping in the whole fight from the beginning, and joining clearly anti-gay people in being against trans people won't make them any less anti-gay after they deal with us. But that's bigger than a personal decision. So you or I can't just decide that.

[DarkWinterNights]

Movement seems to be gaining steam, the problem is- conservatives aren’t exactly going to rush to the LGB’s side to rally with them. Even though it’s pretty funny to watch older religious folks admit that gays and lesbians weren’t so bad after all.


Unfortunately the biggest obstacle is most media, corporations and other large organizations wouldn’t dare support the LGB over the other letters. It would be a PR disaster. Definitely an uphill battle. Good luck to them though, it’s good to see some people call out some of the outright bad behavior that is being increasingly normalized.

[Lliam]

Absolutely. In the same way that blacks can separate themselves from BLM and Jews can separate themselves from Zionism.

I learned about the organization Gays Against Grooming recently. Their mission sounds very reasonable to me, but they under major attack by the heavily funded trans activists, msm, and social media giants.

[Lliam]

https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/

[NamerOfStars]

It's an inherently political thing, not a social one; that was cemented the moment the L was placed before the G.

Your identity needn't be political. Simply be yourself, and you won't have to worry about the rest of the world.

[CandyRat]

One could only hope. I have no problem with gays and lesbians, but this alphabet soup stuff is really proving to be a bunch of mental cases.

[UncleBilll]

I don't care about all those things.. If you're a dude you're a dude, if you're a girl you're a girl. I don't care who you marry, or what happens when you get home at night...

[BCA6010]

I broadly agree; they should not be conflated with each other.

[OddBeMe]

Can you describe what it’s like daily being “dragged into this crap”? Like what does that mean?

[Anonymous]

Sorry but I hate you all now. You took things too far.