I think we can all agree that overthrowing a government is worse than paying hush money to a pornstar. So why wasn't he indicted? I was just talking to a dingbat that said Trump incited the insurrection. I asked the dingbat what exactly he said that incited the insurrection. She said I was playing dumb. I told her I was serious. All I know is he said protest peacefully. So surely there must be more to the story than I know about. That's why I gave her a second chance to answer. She said she's not going to play dumb like me. Could it be possible that she just parroting some mantra she heard from MSNBC?
Why wasn't Trump indicted for nearly overthrowing the government on January 6th?
I know you won't answer this, but can you list reasons why you like Biden over Trump, or are you just towing the partisan line. Tell me ONE thing Biden has done for the betterment of America, and I'll match you with three things he's done to fuck America. Again, I know you won't answer, but the offer is on the table. Oh, and if you mention Trump while defending Biden, you will be deleted and blocked. Go for it.
What a complete loser. LMAO I gave you a chance, and you're just a pathetic pussy. What has Biden done to make you proud of the country? Was it selling the strategic oil supply to China? Was it allowing an open border for the drug cartel to do business in rape and human trafficking? Was it Hunter and his laptop? I'm giving you a chance to explain it, but you won't and you can't.
First off it's a distraction. The US dollar is collapsing and being abandoned as the international trade currency, the government is bailing out and and force-merging banks for de facto nationalization. There's a good chance that the Restrict Act is going to pass, which will effectively nullify the first amendment at least until the supreme court shoots it down, by which point it'll be too late, because all of this leads to a central bank digital currency that would allow the government to control what you can or can't buy, or even lock you out for being "a threat." We've also had two violent riots back to back that are being ignored when not outright encouraged.
The second is a 2024 election strategy. While the Democrats and government establishment class hate Trump more than DeSantis, they would also much rather run against Trump because they believe he will be easier to beat in the general election. Last week's leak, and the indictment have shot Trump's numbers and fundraising through the roof. The left is also salivating at the idea of provoking an even remotely violent protest or response, ideally around the same time as the "Trans Day of Vengeance" so they can create a January 6th 2.0 narrative.
That said, the latter point is a huge hail Mary that could easily backfire, though the first point is the more important one. A lot of democratic strategists recognize how stupid this is and are doing everything they can to deflect it. Assuming Trump is guilty, historically the worst punishment that would be levied for this crime is a fine, which Hillary Clinton paid for in her 2016 election as a relevant example. The moron paid activist in New York is trying to paint this like a massive felony. The problem is this case already got thrown out years ago, already got thoroughly investigated, and at least in a normal court, this would be an easy win for someone in Trump's position. New York is a democrat star chamber however, so it's likely they will do everything they can to drag this out, and keep people focused on this while much bigger problems come and go.
The fact that I won't be able to receive a fact-checkable answer to that question is pretty much your answer as to why they couldn't charge him with jack shit.
So, paying hush money to a hooker... That's their newest angle. I thought the Stormy Danials shit was already played out, but it's back again. This will die just like the Russia collusion stuff. All of this is just making him more popular.
Go back in history... look up if Hitler got sent to prison before he became the Hitler you know and love (that was a joke, stay chill please 😂). Democrats should just stop with their bullshit and come back to reason. Clinton (the man, not the woman) was alright. I didn't give two shits or even one about him shoving a cigar up some woman's vagina and then smoking it. I would love to beg the Democrats to go back to that. And I feel the same way about Trump... I simply can't give a shit about him fucking a hooker.
NOT MY PROBLEM
What is my problem is the price of everything keeps going up and I'm not getting more money to pay the extra money being charged. If someone can bring jobs back, put that fucking border wall up, and make my life easier, they get my vote even if they fuck hookers all day and night and snort cocaine off their buttholes.
Dare I say his white Jewish owner... Soros does funnel money in that direction. That dude almost bankrupted the UK and isn't even allowed to come back but now he's funding DA's here in the US for his ridiculous agenda... that dude doesn't stop. I bet so much shit will go back to normal when that guy finally kicks the bucket.
"Why wasn't Trump indicted for nearly overthrowing the government on January 6th?"
Answer:
He may still be.
Prosecutors take a long time formulating their cases gathering evidence and such. They don't want to go to trial half-assed. They want to make sure that 1) a crime has actually been committed, 2) that they are about to accuse the right person, and 3) that they have enough evidence to get a conviction, let alone convince a grand jury to indict.
This may help you. It comes from the Bureau of Justice Statistics in the Office of Justice Programs in the Department of Justice.
Elmer Stewart Rhodes III, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers, and Kelly Meggs, the leader of the Florida chapter of the organization, were found guilty by a jury today of seditious conspiracy and other charges for crimes related to the breach of the U. S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Their actions disrupted a joint session of the U. S. Congress that was in the process of ascertaining and counting the electoral votes related to the presidential election.
Three additional defendants, who were leaders and associates of the organization – Kenneth Harrelson, Jessica Watkins, and Thomas Caldwell – were found guilty of related felony charges. The verdict followed an eight-week trial and three days of deliberations. ===
Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio is currently on trial.
Rhodes is likely to be sentenced this month (April). He's facing upto 60 years. I expect he will get it. Frankly, he's lucky. The penalty for Seditious Conspiracy and similar crimes is not much. It should be greatly increased. It should be a public execution.
=== https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384 UNITED STATES CODE TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I—CRIMES (§§ 1 – 2725) CHAPTER 115—TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES (§§ 2381 – 2391)
18 U. S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
INSURRECTION is a specific crime just like... SEDITION is a specific crime
“ United States law provides specific information on the crime of sedition. Section 2384 of Chapter 115 in Title 18 of the United States Code (which lays out federal crimes and criminal procedures) defines the crime of seditious conspiracy and Section 2385, advocating overthrow of the government.
SEDITION: According to Section 2384, a person can be fined or imprisoned for conspiring to overthrow or oppose the government by force, prevent or delay its laws by force, or take by force its property. Section 2385 makes it a crime—punishable by fines, imprisonment, and/or being barred from federal employment—to engage in such actions as advocating, abetting, advising, or teaching anything that encourages using force to destroy or overthrow the government, including distributing materials or organizing groups to these ends.”
INSURRECTION:
“ Title 18 of the US Code (Section 2383 in Chapter 115) also sets out the crime and penalty for insurrection:
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States”
No one has been found guilty of the crime of insurrection. No one.
I don’t care if they were found guilty of vandalism, or trespassing, or resisting arrest, or any of th other charges brought against them.
You call this an “insurrection.” Yet, by all accounts from armies of lawyers, absolutely no one has been found guilty of the crime of INSURRECTION.
So crow all you want. Gloat. Tell yourself whatever you have to tell yourself. It won’t change any verdict or judge’s ruling. Why?
Because the burden of proof is not sufficient to fit that crime.
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
======= Ironically, Trump could be charged with that...
They referred these charges to the Justice Department: I. Obstruction of an Official Proceeding (18 U. S. C. § 1512(c)) II. Conspiracy to Defraud the United States (18 U. S. C. § 371) III. Conspiracy to Make a False Statement (18 U. S. C. §§ 371, 1001) IV. “Incite,” “Assist” or “Aid and Comfort” an Insurrection (18 U. S. C. § 2383) V. Other Conspiracy Statutes (18 U. S. C. §§ 372 and 2384)
December 19, 2020 06:42:42 Peter Navarro releases 36-page report alleging election fraud 'more than sufficient' to swing victory to Trump. A great report by Peter. Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D. C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!
Here's an example from Kelly O'Brien, a J6 rioter convicted of minor offenses and who was sentenced to 90 days. This image is from her case, United States v O'Brien.
That's only one of many such pages from the trials of many J6 rioters.
During Trump's 70-minute address at the Ellipse on J6, he said a few things which, taken together, were inciteful including:
'We won this election, and we won it by a landslide.' 'We will stop the steal.' 'We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen.' 'If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore.' 'We are going to the Capitol.'
Normally, such words would not necessarily be considered inciteful... Yet, they did then March to The Capitol and get violent.
Don't get me wrong... I am not saying Trump did incite or even be charged with it. I am just echoing that his words and actions can be considered inciteful. I do think he should be charged, but I'm not sure he'd be convicted.
I have no definitive opinion as to former President Trump's guilt on anything other than the recent conviction of The Trump Organization. I believe in the justice system and that he's innocent until proven guilty. He will have his day in court - assuming he even goes to court.
OK, well, 1) whatever Chuck Schumer did is irrelevant. Former President Trump's actions are at issue and, unless Chuck Schumer had something to do with that, his alleged actions are legally irrelevant to Trump's cases. 2) Do you have a reputable incontrovertible source (with URL) to your assertion that "Chuck Schumer threatened a supreme Court judge". I do remember something to that effect. Nevermind, I remember now. Well, he apologized and that's all there is to it. There was no explicit threat just "pay the price" which is unfortunately language.
I watched the original Trump speech and he did not incite them, he spoke about the police and he spoke about peaceful and never said go in the building. What people hear though, can be something very different.
A riot did ensue, violating some police instructions. Whether those were legal instructions, can't say. By pushing his viewpoint so far, it lead to that riot, but I wouldn't say, as far as I know, he is to blame. The people involved in it are and large groups become stupid. I've been in a protest and saw that first hand.
It's fortunate/unfortunate they didn't all declare themselves "squatters". By doing so, Congress would have had to go through the court process to have them evicted. They could have stayed, eat there, etc.. until legally removed.
As well, if the dude with the hat had "self identified" as nancy pelosi and speaker, then they would have had to honor that, since we all know, you can self identify as anything and it's true... for democrats.
There is no evidence supporting that. If there was, he would have been indicted. Everyone knows (even the Left) that they have been hunting Trump with pitch forks for four years. But here's the problem. Trump inspired a new breed of Patriots, including DeSantis, Jordan, Ramaswamy and others. Even if Trump is obstructed from running for president again, there are others ready to defeat Grandpa or whatever moron the Democrats attempt to run. If nothing else, Trump is running interference for them.
Brilliant post. Thank you. I seriously want Trump to NOT run for the presidency, and then back DeSantis 100%. Then DeSantis can have Trump as his Veep, and the morons on the left won't know what hit them. Can you just imagine the rallies they would hold? Tens of thousands of people would show up to take back America from the woke trannies.
Because he did nothing wrong. He told them to peacefully protest, Which is not illegal, even at the capital. What is illegal is when the leftists went to justice kavanaugh's house and rioted.. What is illegal was the summer of love where terrorists destroyed billions of dollars of property.. But according to the left it was mostly peaceful. They are even trying to justify the recent nashville shooting. Saying it was self defense or some such bullshit. Criminal behavior is only ok if the person who commits it is a leftist.
The left knows this, but they're all criminals. The Nashville shooting is an embarrassment to the world. But the left is going to bat for the monster that killed the kids.
Going after Trump now is just making him more popular and more powerful ahead of the 2024 election. It's a strategy that makes no sense whatsoever. Liberals and socialists in this country should've just been ignoring him, and he would've more than likely just faded away, or maybe ran again and not even won the nomination. Instead, orchestrated stunts like this are not only keeping him in the spotlight, they're increasing his support. It's almost certainly all going to backfire stupendously, and it's going to be extremely hilarious to watch unfold. It's almost like liberals and socialists in this country want Trump elected again.
Well she probably doesn’t know the answer herself that’s why she doesn’t answer you. It’s funny that all they can get him on is the hush money thing, this just seems dumb of them to do and in New York it already reached past the statute of limitations but since he is a public figure it lasts longer for some reason. I think this is a distraction to keep him from running but I think it’s going to do the opposite if they put him jail , it’s going to be interesting who wins the election next, hopefully not Biden
No evidence. They want to get him for something so it's classified documents, paying a woman not to reveal his private sex life ( to be honest can you imagine the fall out if a man did this to a woman for money, he'd be arrested for blackmail), accusations of collusion with Russia and being detrimined to get likely have a huge laundry list of thing they will try to charge him with from unpaid parking tickets to maybe a gas stove in trump Tower.
No winnable case. Telling people to protest "peacefully and patriotically" is obviously reasonable doubt. Not that the weaponized DOJ won't do something similar to what the clown show Manhattan DA did and push some easily defeated charge. They do not care about imprisoning the guy. The idea is to keep Trump occupied so that he cannot effectively run.
Nearly? How in the hell could a government as powerful as the US be *nearly* overthrown without a single shot fired by the "rebels"? They have far better weaponry and any insurrection would have been over in seconds with how poorly prepared those "insurrectionists" were.
The reason why nothing has happened in relation to inciting the insurrection is that he didn't actively do anything to start it. His words were fighting words. I believe he said that we need to fight to take our country back. He also told them to march on The Capitol. Yet he wasn't alone in that. Other conservative major players like Guiliani gave similar speeches. So he wasn't alone in starting it. In my opinion, the most damning piece of evidence to show that he had control over it is that as soon as he told them to leave, they did. So whether or not he can be charged for actually starting it, he did have control over it and did nothing to stop it for hours, despite the fact that he could have.
Trump is on video saying March to the capital and protest peacefully. They've beenvestigating that for over 2 years. This is just a way to interfere with the election.
I know what happened on the day. I saw his press conference. I mean i didn't follow the investigation.
I think his followers were upset, and his words got them worked up, but i don't think his plan was to cause a riot, he just has an aggressive personality that can fire people up, but i do wonder why he waited so long to send in the troops.
This is why the Republicans got to get off their ass and start fighting back. They need to get the head of the FBI in front of a panel and grill the crap out of him. Get him under oath and make him explain why Ray Epps was there. Trying to get people to go into the capitol.
5 SELECT COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE 6 January 6TH ATTACK ON THE U. S. CAPITOL, 7 U. S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, 8 WASHINGTON, D. C. 9 10 11 12 INTERVIEW OF: RAY EPPS 13 14 15 16 Friday, January 21, 2022
He did. Don got impeached the second time, which is basically indicated of a crime by a sitting president by the house. Senate as jurys did not convict.
The whole point of this indictments procedure recently is because he couldn't be indicated as sitting president.
I'm specifically talking about the court of law and the laws written on the books.
You can't charge someone with a crime if they didn't violate those specific laws.
Trump saying "Let's take our country back" which protesting is a legal right doesn't mean to destroy and riot inside the capital building like those idiots.
Why hasn't he been indicted for Jan 6th is a great question. I think they're still working on it and if they can indict him they will. I think they're being cautious. It's possible they will get him soon. He's been indicted many times in NY for shady business practices way before becoming president.. He's an expert criminal that easily hypnotizes idiots.
His entire speech is online. We all know what he said. I'm not a lawyer. I'll leave that up to them and the courts. It's possible they won't be able to.
The problem is he speaks out of both ends and here is the issue. Is it enough that he said
"We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore,"
He also said in another breath to march over peacefully.
He also let it go on for a long while before making his statement.
I know you're a troll just trying to rile people up. You're a trump sucker so my suggestion is to be prepared for the possibility you're God is going to jail. Again maybe he won't but I hope he gets what he deserves... whatever that should be let it be.
I think they had to once Tucker showed the forage of the police calming giving him a guided tour around the Capital Building. They even opened up a door for him! 🤣
This was the footage the Democrats kept from people. This is the footage that they INTENTIONALLY WITHHELD.
And lo and behold Tucker shows it on Fox and Greg guy gets released within weeks.
@aga Nancy pelosi, and Merrick Garland should all be in prison for the rest of their life. And the horny guy should get about 50 million from the government.
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