What if all prisons looked like this?

[OddBeMe]

Instead of the dreary, stainless steal tables and bars and sex assaults, we have prisons that were more like schools. Emotionally, we’d feel suckered.

But logically…wouldn’t this decrease crime and cut recidivism? Seriously, teach and treat crime…not just consequence.

[tesniolite]

I think that would be good, this is my idea on how I think prisons should be reformed:

First off, let's focus on rehabilitation programs that address the root causes of criminal behavior, such as substance abuse, mental health issues, or a lack of education and job skills. We're talking about things like counseling, therapy, education, and vocational training.

But we're not stopping there. It's important to provide support to offenders after they leave prison, too. Think housing assistance, job training, and access to mental health services. By doing this, we can help them reintegrate into society and reduce the likelihood of reoffending.

Now, let's get to the root of the problem. We need to address the underlying causes of crime, like poverty, inequality, and a lack of opportunities. We can partner with community organizations to provide support and resources to individuals in high-risk areas.

And let's not forget about the harmful effects of solitary confinement. It can have negative effects on mental health and increase the likelihood of reoffending. Instead, let's focus on alternative forms of punishment and rehabilitation.

Lastly, let's make sure our prisons provide safe and humane living conditions. That means access to healthcare, nutritious food, and opportunities for exercise and recreation. By doing so, we can improve inmates' mental and physical health, making them more receptive to rehabilitation programs. Let's create a system that supports everyone!

[KrakenAttackin]

I agree with some of what you say but a huge component has to be ACCOUNTABILITY. People who have committed crimes need to earn their way back into the good graces of society.

[Adaeva]

That would be a huge improvement and greatly reduce repeat violators. However, the mentality of the people in the USA is punish, punish, punish.

[Anonymous]

Uh, that furniture in the first photo is what they put in insane asylums. If you notice none of the furniture has any sharp corners, it is impossible to pick up a chair, and just moving one of those things requires a goddamn dolly. They use this furniture in asylums and in-patient facilities for the suicidal so they can’t hurt themselves or anyone else.

Those places also hand thirty year olds a coloring book so they don’t assault the other patients—or inmates—so they don’t bite someone’s throat in two.

Fun times! You can be sure when you see furniture like THAT you’ll be in for a stimulating environment.

Buuuut you also want to disarm gun-carrying women so they can be raped and killed, so this is just one more bad idea. I’ll put this with the others. 👍

[KrakenAttackin]

Yeah, fuck the gun grabbers.

[OddBeMe]

I believe this pics are from European jails who take the treatment and psychology track instead of just punishment like the US does.

But Google images could have confused me. Either way, if they looked like this, wouldn’t prisoners have a better outlook and perhaps be more open to treatment?

Not talking serial killers by the way.

[KrakenAttackin]

@OddBeMe. Serial killers, habitual criminals of any kind need to be locked. Reform those who can be reformed, lock away those who can't.

[OddBeMe]

@KrakenAttackin couldn’t agree more Krak.

[lightbulb27]

Probably be trashed fast. I don't have a problem with altering designs and colors, locations, providing training and lots of reconditioning so they can function in society, that be the goal.. since most get out again. But fixing an adult is very hard.

You should see the streets where I live... trash everywhere. People are just ignorant and stupid, and those are the free ones.

[OddBeMe]

Right, there’s no discipline in prisons. They all do what they want.

[Anonymous]

You’re 100% correct. In the US, our criminal justice system is antiquated and backwards thinking. Long sentences and unfriendly conditions actually increase recidivism. It makes society less safe. Even though there is all kinds of evidence to bear this out, Americans stubbornly stick to a mindset of the past. You go to Europe, where the prison cells look like dorm rooms, and the focus is on rehabilitation instead of punishment, they have lower recidivism rates. If people would follow the evidence and abandon preconceived notions from the past, we could make a difference

[Aerissa_Jade]

I think a lot of people would commit a crime to go live there, after all that would be better than living on the streets. Free housing, food, healthcare. Why would anyone ever want to get out of that and if they did, it would be easy to get back into it.

We are already far too lenient on criminals as it is, we need to increase the punishment a million fold. Especially for crimes where the victim has a life long sentence. That said I am for convicts who can undo the crime to be given that chance to fix what they did.

Sex offenders should never get out of prison, ever. As the victims have a life long sentence, why should the offender get a lesser sentence?

[OddBeMe]

To lose their freedom? I don't know,

There are stories of sick criminals who turn themselves in for free healthcare. That’s a whole other issue.

[Aerissa_Jade]

Freedom is overrated for many people, many will take comfort and security over freedom. Just look at how many are willing to give up rights to feel safe and secure.

[Kelly6]

agree

[OddBeMe]

Then I wouldn’t deny them if they wanted to stay and forced to learn discipline and go to class everyday.

[Agape93]

Uh no. I don't like this. For any sex offenders, of any kind, they deserve nothing but suffering before dying. They shouldn't be allowed relative comfort before being allowed back into society.

[OddBeMe]

I see your issues. But this kind of environment may help treat crimes. Sex offenses are a different beast. Not sure if there are treatable sex offenders. Like serial killers.

But vast majority od prisoners are gang bangers, drug abusers are dealers…etc.

[Agape93]

I'm fine with it for most criminals, cool, you do you. But if nothing else, the sex offenders belong on my table next to my tools. You can try and rehabilitate the others.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah I pretty agree. I don’t think we stop studying them. Mind hunter style. There are some “pedophiles” or “violent sex fantasists” who have never gone violent and yet can’t seek out help because of the stigma.

But that’s separate from prisons. Here we agree. If they commit the crime, they’ll do it again.

[OddBeMe]

@Adaeva yeah the good guys railroaded by commie libtards,

Just kidding. Yes, obvi treatment for the treatable. Gang bangers who think it’s their only life, for instance.

[Agape93]

It doesn't matter if they offended or not. My uncle never laid a hand on me, but he made it clear he wanted to, and tried. I spent my life growing up, afraid that was going to be the day he hurt me.
They don't deserve help. Their victims do. The ones the made afraid do. The ones they would've harmed do.
All pedophiles deserve, is a violent death.

Like I said, if you want to rehab druggies, thieves, killers, pimps etc. Cool, rehabilitation works for most if done correctly.

[OddBeMe]

Couldn’t agree more,

[Sasahara]

That second pic almost looks like what I imagine Norwegian prison cells looks like >:( No joke.

I say America should get free health care before making prisons nicer. And Norway should treat eldery people better than prisoners! Also no joke, prisoners supposedly gets better food here than people at eldery centers.

[OddBeMe]

Prob is. I searched for Euro jails.

[WindAtMyBack]

You would have people intentionally committing crimes so they can live in the luxury apartment for free. Even with current prisons people do that.

[OddBeMe]

They’d learn something.

[katiesmuff]

Yes it would be great to see some rehabilitation centers with a better environment than the current prison look for those inmates where rehabilitation is likely. Problem is there are many more who nothing is going to make them ever acceptable to society and my personal view is they should be exterminated.

Same goes for all these street gangs, find them and kill them no matter what the age.

[Shiningtempest]

@katiesmuff Wrong, current prison look better than so-called "rehabilitation" centers.

[anon1903]

It depends on the crime, hon.

If it's heinous like rape, child molestation, etc then no, they don't deserve this.

But if it's like vandalism or shop lifting or theft then yes, probably. It's a wonderful idea.

The severity of crime is what matters the most.

[OddBeMe]

Oh of course. I’m talking gang bangers, druggies, etc. serial killers are exempt.

[anon1903]

Gang bangers are the worst

[OddBeMe]

What else are they to do if we don’t offer a way?

[Keishio]

What crime are we talking about? If it's crimes that could be prevented by giving someone better opportunities through education then why do we have to wait until they commit a crime before they can receive that help and why should it only be available to criminals at the cost of the tax payer?

[richardcory]

American prisons are horrible. But those pictures look more like a mental care facility - and while some may be OK, others keep inmates / patients completely drugged up so they don't cause problems. I'd actually take prison over that.

[NYCQuestions1976]

Wishful thinking and an extremely vast over correction. It's prison, not Chuck E Cheese. Just like the nonsensical bail reform that frees dangerous criminals on bench tickets and the closing of all the mental institutions instead of reforming them. Trying to fix an issue by creating another "opposite" problem makes things worse.

[OddBeMe]

Europe proves you 100% wrong. As these pics are from euro jails.

[NYCQuestions1976]

That fact that the Union Of European Socialist Republics does this is even MORE of a reason NOT to do this. It doesn't surprise me that they treat their criminals better than their law-abiding citizens.

[Roxxy99]

…. and yet Europe’s recidivism rate is lower. More people reoffend under the U. S. model. In fact, the land of the free a has the worlds largest jail and prison population. Harsh punishment (even the death penalty) has never been shown to be a deterrent. You have to rehabilitate people so that they have the skills to make it on the outside as well as more economic opportunity. With little in the way of rehabilitation or education, they learn from their fellow inmates and establish better criminal contacts. We return people to the streets worse criminals than when they went in. I’ve worked in a prison for 3 years. I see it all the time.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 I never stated that there isn't room for improvement. I stated that doing this would be an over correction. Regardless, jail is still supposed to be some form of jail, not Romper Room. If you turn prisons into kindergarten for adults, there's no real incentive not to go back. Especially if the person is homeless, or has no family, or has no responsibilities, etcetera, or any combination thereof.

[Roxxy99]

How can you overcorrect from a model that has never been shown to work? I see the revolving door daily and have interviewed thousands of inmates. Many know they are coming back as soon as they leave because they don’t have the life skills to avoid the patterns and traps that landed them there in the first place, nor any kind of education or job training to even be able to land a job upon release that they could support themselves on. Many others don’t have this kind of self-awareness but it applies to them just the same. Even with good intentions, they return at an high rate. Punishing them harder doesn’t change that reality. The punishment model doesn’t work, yet you perceive somehow that it does. Numerous studies show the progressive evidence based system used by other countries reduces recidivism. There’s a mindset here that people don’t want to be “soft on crime”, so it’s difficult to sell rehabilitation rather than punishment but can anyone point to a study that shows harsh punishment reduces recidivism? The evidence points to the contrary. It makes us less safe. Fewer people re-offending makes society safer. So if I’m perceived as soft on crime to achieve a common sense results, so be it. I couldn’t care less about appearances.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 You can educate prisoners and teach them life skills without turning jails into daycare centers for adults. Should we give them coloring books and pacifiers also? Of course not. My point is that we can have meaningful prison reform without it becoming a joke.

[Roxxy99]

Losing your freedom and having staff supervise your daily life is the punishment, not the conditions themselves. A more humane environment with more freedoms and privileges is conducive to better outcomes with learning and rehabilitation. You’re still clinging to the notion that a punitive environment contributes to a positive outcome. We don’t see evidence of that. Not only could we reduce recidivism, we could have fewer prisons and spend those tax dollars on more important things.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 Why stop at fewer prisons? Why bother sending criminals to prison at all? Let's just close all the prisons like they closed all the mental institutions. Then we can have all of the criminally unhinged running around free with all of the mentally unhinged. We'll all live our lives like every day is The Purge. Uh, no.

https://youtu.be/ny6qazpJqIw

Your compassion is compelling but also pointless. It seems like you want to treat criminals better than law-abiding people. Absolutely not. When you choose to be a criminal, you then lose your rights to "freedoms and privileges". That's the tradeoff in a civilized society. "Do the crime? Do the time."

If you want reforms in prisons like more education opportunities, more life skill opportunities, and more career training opportunities, that's all great. However treating criminals better than non-criminals is blatantly ridiculous.

[Roxxy99]

Those are ridiculous statements. Even in the most progressive countries, prisoners do not have it as good as free people do. Get real. However, their prisons are more effective than ours. The goal is to have fewer people reoffend and to make society safer. If our model isn’t doing that, wouldn’t we be fools to not look at other approaches that are proving to be more effective? Or is punishing someone to a degree that makes us feel better more important? I’m just not a backwards thinker like that. As long as we stick to what we’re doing, we’re going to have to live with high crimes rates, more repeat offenders and more tax dollars spent. I just don’t see the appeal.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 As I already mentioned a bunch of times, if you want reforms in prisons like more education opportunities, more life skill opportunities, and more career training opportunities, that's all great. Even more counseling and therapy is great. Anything else is silly folly. It's not supposed to be "appealing". It's a prison, not a hotel.

[Roxxy99]

…. but that’s a personal opinion and not an evidence based one. That’s the difference between us, I think the results are more important than the process. Show me something that’s an improvement and I’m on board, even if it challenges my own preconceived notions.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 It's not a personal opinion. It's part of living in a civilized society. You commit a crime, then there's a proper punishment. If there's no proper punishment for crime, then we're go backwards as a civilized society. Criminals go to prison, not Airbnb.

[Roxxy99]

Of course it’s a personal opinion. Evidence doesn’t back you up. You’re concerned with what you feel is proper but our crime rates are a disgrace. That “proper” punishment isn’t working. It’s hardly radical to suggest something that shows at least modest improvement. Sticking with something that has a worse outcome is going backwards as a society. Improvement moves you forward.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 Turning prisons into preschools for adults isn't improvement, and it isn't moving forward. It's coddling criminals and socialist agenda.

[Roxxy99]

Again personal opinion. The rehabilitative model shows less recidivism and lower violent crime rates……a safer society. How is that not an improvement over what we’re doing? The socialists are beating us when it comes to criminal justice reform. Change offends your political views and that’s what this boils down to. You don’t really care about the end result. You care about the optics and not ceding ground to “liberals”, even if they can show evidence that they’re right. I don’t give a fuck about politics. I’d like to make my job obsolete someday.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 Liberals and socialists can never show evidence. Only propaganda. You're being fed a line of bull. Look at every major city in the United States that's been run by liberals for decades. They're being run into the ground and destroyed in front of our eyes. That's not an opinion. That's factual reality.

Criminals belong in prison. That's the bottom line. If you don't want to go to prison, then don't be a criminal. You're never going to get rid of prisons because you're always going to have some criminal element in society. It'll never be 0%. That's fantasy thinking. There's a reason that "A leopard never changes its spots." is a saying. There's a reason that "If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck." is a saying. Sometimes people can be rehabilitated. Sometimes. Unfortunately, most of the time, that's not the case.

Again, prison reform is fine. Turning prisons into vacation spots is dumb and backwards.

[Roxxy99]

So the criminologists conducting these studies are lying? Foreign countries are lying about their recidivism and crime statistics? What evidence are you basing that conclusion on? When you’re backed in a corner, just deny that anything is real. It’s not a very effective debating tactic because it shuts off intellectual debate but if that’s what you’ve chosen, so be it. Everyone has a right to be wrong.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 What criminologists? Who's funding their studies? Which foreign countries? What agenda do these countries have? Who's funding their studies? Who's paying for these silly fake prisons? It's their own innocent people paying 45% in taxes. Ridiculous!

I'm not wrong. Socialism is a cancer that's bleeding its way through this country and eroding away at the freedoms of innocent law-abiding citizens. You want to treat criminals better than innocent people. That's not improvement. That's not moving forward. It's backwards and stupid.

One day you might be a parent. Let's see if your thinking will still be as fanciful if that happens.

[Roxxy99]

You can’t show that your approach has ever worked (because it hasn’t), yet you question the motives of everyone who provides evidence of a better path. It’s easier to dismiss all evidence to the contrary rather than admit you just might be wrong. You want to make this political and thump your chest and stick with outdated notions that have no basis in fact. The EU spends 60% less than the US on prisons. Why? Because they don’t perpetuate a broken system. Your approach not only makes us less safe, it costs us a lot more money. Again, where is the upside? We spend more on prisoners than we spend on students. Dumbfuck attitudes like yours is why we can’t make any progress. Just out of curiosity, what expertise do you even have in corrections? I’m guessing none.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 Someone I grew up with happens to be the lead psychologist at a prison located in the suburbs of New York City in northern New Jersey, and a guy I work with is married to a corrections officer on Riker's Island. My psychologist friend believes there need to be meaningful prison reform like I already mentioned ad nauseum, but she laughed at the idea of turning prisons into preschool for adults. The corrections officer just laughed at everything all together, used some colorful language to describe you and your ideas, and then asked me to ask you if you wanted to spend a few days at Riker's to see if you still feel the same way afterwards. So stop trying to undermine civilized society by suggesting the criminals should be treated like school children at sleep away camp.
It's utterly nonsensical. If you don't want to be in prison, then don't be a criminal.

[Roxxy99]

So you know people but have no expertise of your own? Got it. Honestly, I’d rather debate with them. You’re not really qualified to offer anything meaningful. It’s the same with all the amateur virologists and climate scientists on social media. I work in a maximum security facility and have been inside Cook Co. jail, similar to Riker’s Island. I’m not sure how that’s relevant to anything other than to personally witness the dysfunction the system produces but I’d be happy to experience Riker’s or any correctional facility you have in mind. It’s not a secret the European system produces better results than the U. S. system. I don’t think it’s foolish to discount their approach because of that. Results over process. However, that doesn’t mean you can rehabilitate every inmate, nor can every prison be a rehabilitation center. You’re always going to have men and women who refuse to embrace help or who are effectively serving life terms and would be a waste of resources. A rehabilitation first approach though would save us a lot of money in the long run. The EU is able to afford more police officers on the streets because they can spend less on prisons. It’s a mystery to me why you think they’re wrong.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 Turning prisons into funhouses is nonsensical. Socialism never solved anything on this planet. The only thing socialism has ever done is ruin people's lives by destroying personal freedoms. Once you've started spewing socialism, it automatically disqualifies you from being able to offer anything meaningful for anything tangible. The government isn't your friend. It sucks that you've been gaslighted into believing otherwise.

[Roxxy99]

First of all, socialism is an economic/political model. It has nothing to do with rehabilitation strategies. All prisons are socialized institutions. You simply don’t understand what you’re talking about and this is further evidence of that. You’re not qualified to have this discussion. I wouldn’t argue with a virologist about vaccine development. Why? I don’t know enough to make an intelligent argument. As for destroying freedoms, it isn’t socialism that is attacking reproductive rights and voting rights in this country….. or trying to ban books from libraries or control speech in the classroom. Might want to read up on the tenets of fascism.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 I'm sorry that you don't understand that you've been fed a litany of lies by progressives and socialists.

I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference between prison reform, and turning prisons into playpens for adults.

I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference between climate change and climate change paranoia.

I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference between being pro-vaccination while questioning the length of effectiveness and overall effectiveness of just *one* vaccination, and being blindly pro-vaccination regardless of legitimate concerns.

I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference between being pro-choice and being pro-abortion.

I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference between teaching preschoolers about sexuality and sexual behavior, and teaching tweens and high schoolers about sexuality and sexual behavior.

I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference between protecting voting rights for actual citizens of the United States, and not allowing non-citizens of the United States access to voting.

I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference between actual evil fascism, and stopping censorship of things that make boo boos on your feelings.

I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference between celebrating individual freedoms and accomplishments, and supporting big fat stupid bloated grim reaper albatross grim reaper socialism government that bleeds money away from those with freedoms and accomplishments.

I'm sorry that you don't understand. Period.

[Roxxy99]

So now you want to compound your ignorance by “educating” me on a whole host of other topics you have absolutely no expertise in? I’m going to politely decline. You just aren’t qualified to do any of that. As for prison reform, I’ve done a great deal of study on the subject and wrote a thesis paper on it. I’m confident that I’m better educated on it than you are or will ever be. Sorry, you just don’t know what you’re talking….. and couldn’t know. You have no education or experience to base an intelligent opinion on.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 So you "politely decline"? Don't patronize me. The truth is you don't have actual facts and reality on your side, and you're swinging above your league. Not only do I have an education (two degrees), I have decades of life experience. Something you haven't acquired yet. I've also parlayed my education into a six figure salary working a rewarding blue-collar career for two decades. Meanwhile you're relying on whatever has been spoon-fed to you in college so you can earn a grade, falsely believing whatever you've been taught is how life works and/or should work outside a classroom. So I am certain I can run circles around anyone who sits on their duff behind a desk and pontificates to gullible potheads with bowls of stale oatmeal in their heads about how they believe the world should be because they can't actually do anything outside a classroom... including whomever happened to grade your thesis.

[Roxxy99]

I didn’t ask for your resume. You injected yourself into a topic you don’t have expertise in (fact). You keep trying to skew the conversation to broader political topics to distract from that reality (another fact) Your life experience is irrelevant here unless your life experience has been as a prisoner or a cog in the system. Your income is irrelevant too. I understand very clearly what’s going on here. If you don’t like being patronized, don’t claim knowledge in a subject you are ignorant of. It really is that simple. I don’t claim to know anything about your field. That would make me look like a fool. It’s funny how age and common sense don’t always go hand in hand.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 YOU responded to MY comment! You can stop any time you want! Duh on both accounts!

"It’s funny how age and common sense don’t always go hand in hand."

You must've been looking in the mirror as you typed that.

Anyway, I'm leaving work early now so I can get to Yankee Stadium and enjoy the rest of my afternoon. I'll babysit you some more later. 👍

[Roxxy99]

All this drama because a supposedly grown man couldn’t bear to admit he’s ignorant of a particular subject. It was entertaining to have some fun with that and show you had nothing in the tank but all good things must come to an end. Enjoy your game.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 At no point have I been wrong. Treating criminals like good little children in a classroom is wrong and stupid, and goes well beyond reform, which I already stated is needed numerous times. Any time anyone suggests that my hard-earned, well-deserved tax dollars should be spent on nonsense, I will always call that out for what it is: Nonsense.

They won, so I enjoyed the game.

I originally posted these questions as satire, but they're probably intellectually more your speed:

Hello Everyone. Is "Clear" A Color? ↗

Have Essential Oils Been Going To Work Throughout The Entire Pandemic While Non-Essential Oils Have Been Forced To Work From Home? ↗

Are Circles Round Enough? ↗

Is This "Penis" Too Small? ↗

Is This "Vagina" Too Large? ↗

[Roxxy99]

You can try to demean me from a position of weakness if you like but the facts remain. The original post brought up an intelligent point that is actually backed by quite a bit of evidence. You immediately dismissed the idea. Since this is an area I have studied pretty extensively and would like to write a book on someday, I decided to see if you knew what you were talking about. You didn’t. You have no education or expertise on the subject and your most poignant contribution to the discussion is that prison shouldn’t be day care, a claim I’m not even making. You got caught with your pants down and couldn’t articulate any kind of coherent argument and it galled you that someone half your age was better educated on something than you. Ego wouldn’t allow you to admit what’s painfully obvious, that you’re ignorant on this subject. So you can keep up the junior high antics that you’ve resorted to as a distraction but I’m going to steer you right back to these same facts over and over again.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 Did you answer any of the questions yet? You get a gold star and a participation trophy if you do. I know you safe space adult babies like those things. When you write your book, will it have a coloring section?

[Roxxy99]

The last post still applies to you despite the 8th grade antics. Sorry!

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 Since you seem to believe you're so intellectually brilliant, maybe you'd like to try and figure out what one of your fellow dingbat liberals did with over $850 million of New York City taxpayer dollars:

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...tal-health-project.html

www.realclearpolicy.com/.../...centers_798162.html

www.nytimes.com/.../thrivenyc-mental-health-.html

www.nydailynews.com/.../...s5gnurt5pbcq-story.html

www.politico.com/.../with-opaque-budget-and-elusive-metrics-850m-thrivenyc-program-attempts-a-reset-873945

nypost.com/.../

[Roxxy99]

You’re pretty much confirming what I suspected early on in this, that you’re not who you say you are. The maturity level of your comments seem more like someone in his 20’s, rather than his 40’s and the maturity continues to devolve. I’m guessing you still live with your parents and play Xbox all day. The “Yankees game” was probably you checking your fantasy baseball. Lol

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 Nope. Full season tickets in the Right Field Bleachers since 1998.
https://youtu.be/lZmn-BUKjIc
I even post questions and MyTakes about the Yankees every once in a while.

Since you failed to give me a cogent (or any) answer about the misappropriated tax dollars, I guess that means you support liberals wasting/losing/stealing others' money, as I had already suggested.

[Roxxy99]

I don’t owe you any comments to issues you’re using as a distraction. That debating tactic has already failed you. You just leave the big problems to the serious people and go back to being the armchair expert. by the way what grown man feels the need to prove to a stranger that he has season tickets? You’re trying way too hard to maintain the subterfuge here. Lol Seriously.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 Are you smoking bones the size of telephone poles? Just because marijuana is decriminalized now doesn't mean that it's okay to be a pothead. You're the one who falsely accused me of lying, while actively supporting turning prisons into timeshares like a fool. You falsely claim it works, while citing no actual proof other than "Yay Europe!" as evidence. You far-left liberals are all the same. You want tons of wasteful government bloat, but want everyone else to pay for your wasteful government bloat. It's the epitome of hypocrisy. Just try not to be one of those clowns who gets it on with their prisoners. I don't want your career to be derailed before you publish your coloring book. 😂😂😂

[Roxxy99]

No I don’t believe you are who you claim. The maturity level doesn’t match up. That’s ok though. People misrepresent who they are on anonymous forums all the time. I half expect it. I never made any statements about making prisons time shares. That’s your own dishonesty. I talked about the euro model with more humane conditions like the photos with a focus on rehabilitation. There are a number of lengthy studies, as well as those countries overall statistics, that show it’sxsn improvement over our system. I can provide you with studies but you already proclaimed yourself qualified to refute virologists and climatologists, so I’m skeptical you’d actually read them or consider any evidence. Your motivations are clearly political. Also, how exactly does less recidivism and fewer prisons cause government bloat? That makes no sense. You keep calling me a far- left liberal, yet I’ve not discussed any issues other than prison reform, again dishonesty. You and I probably have more in common than you realize on other issues. There are things liberals are simply right about and there are other things conservatives are right about. An open mind beats a closed one any day of the week.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 If I was really someone else, why would I post a picture of myself (from when I was working the New York City Auto Show about 8 years ago) that's so... I'll call it "non-photogenic"? I mean, I would've found a far better picture if I was "someone else".

Wanting a vaccination and any corresponding boosters to last more than just a handful of months isn't questioning actual virology.

Pointing out the unnecessary paranoia about the world ending in 12 years isn't questioning actual climatology.

So those pictures in the question itself do or don't represent your version of what you would consider proper reform?

[Roxxy99]

People use fake photos, names, personas online everyday for their own reasons. This site is full of them. The fact that you can’t let this go, is about as junior high as you can get. I believe you’re a much younger person and I’m not addressing it further. You’re trying too hard to convince me otherwise. A mature man wouldn’t care about such a trivial detail. The photos are similar to what you see in many European prisons. It offends the sensibilities of many Americans such as yourself but humane conditions, pared with evidence based rehab programs, educational opportunities and aftercare has produced better results over there. There is possibly a cultural component to this but it’s not a radical idea to replicate what they’re doing. The idea is gaining steam here. We can’t do much worse than what we’re already doing. Our recidivism rates are among the highest on the planet. That’s unacceptable.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 I won't let it go? YOU keep responding to MY comment! You must be a sadist! 😂😂😂

You obviously haven't been on my profile page or read any of my content or opinions at all because you'd know I've been here for 9 years (not sure why) and have been a full-time single parent for a long time now (I've posted at least one Christmas question featuring my mini-me at Rockefeller Center from years ago). So it's not difficult to figure out. Whatever though. As we say on the job, "It is what it is."

If those pictures are indeed accurate, then we definitely don't need that here. Prisons need to be reformed, not turned into bounce houses for adults.

[Roxxy99]

Have a good night.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 See? Still responding. 😂

A grand salutations to you as well. 👍

[Roxxy99]

That was a dismissal. The New Yorker can’t take a hint.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 Yet you're still here. lol

[Roxxy99]

Absolutely. My co-workers and I have been trying over the past couple of days to see how long you’ll keep trying to get in the last word like an 8th grade kid. It’s been pure gold. That last response made the entire office laugh. You’ve been great for a laugh kid but all things must come to an end. I’ll leave you alone now. Buh-bye now.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 You keep saying bye, and yet you're still here on my post.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Roxxy99 Ah the "Block" move. Only employed by those who lose arguments. Thank you for finally conceding. Have a great weekend! 👍😂

[OddBeMe]

Like you fucks have anywhere to go

[NYCQuestions1976]

@OddBeMe Well it is Easter weekend. I also promised my friend I'd check on some minor electrical issues she's having at her house tomorrow. Her backyard breaker keeps tripping after it rains, so should be straightforward. Well I guess now, it's actually later today. Since it's nearly 4am here and I just go in, not really sure what time that's happening now. GaG is like a mental prison though. 😂

[D_Bone_Steak]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/HI-mDTdeKR8

It seems to sharpen me up for a little bit of the ole... ultra-violence.

[KrakenAttackin]

We need both kinds of prisons. Prisoners need to earn their way to the softer facilities, and from there to freedom.

I know the current system does not rehabilitate, but we also have to remember there are some very serious, dangerous, people in prisons.

[Shiningtempest]

@KrakenAttackin Wrong, US only needs one type of prison.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Shiningtempest I worked in law enforcement for several years and I realize the challenges. Believe me, I have no love for criminals. What we need to realize is that the vast majority of prisoners will end up back on the street at some time. Those being released need to be taught basic life skills, be counseled and monitored, and be given a real chance to become productive members of society. Should they fail to integrate and correct their ways, the prison system should escalate as should the sentences. Yes, some people will never rehabilitate and they can rot in prison. Others, when given opportunity and ACCOUNTABILITY, can actually make a change. In the long run it's safer and cheaper to integrate those who can be turned.

[Shiningtempest]

@KrakenAttackin Your response won't change my unwavering belief.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Shiningtempest That's cool, we can agree to disagree.

[OddBeMe]

I’m not totally disagreed….

[KrakenAttackin]

@OddBeMe. Meaning you partially agree 😁

[msc545]

@KrakenAttackin well said

[DryGermanGuy]

You might want to watch documentaries about European prison systems and the results.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/yOmcP9sMwIE

[Owen009]

I don't know about something that comfy, but there's no question that North American prisons are shitholes. Rarely does anyone come out of their with a sense of changing their ways. In fact, they're just universities for criminals. They learn more in there about criminality than they do out here. You lock them up in cages like animals and expect them to behave like human beings. Retarded.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah I get punishment as a part of conviction. But I think loss of freedom is pretty tough. These euro jails teach harsh discipline, like drill sergeants, and then have classes everyday.

Besides, just the look gives more hope and better feelings than Shawshank ass rape prisons.

[Jersey2]

It’s not the prisons, it’s the prisoners that determine what is needed. A ceramic sink will be easily broken and the shards used as knives. The furniture will be thrown or simply destroyed by the caged animals.

[yucel_eden]

People would commit crimes without hesitation

[OddBeMe]

If they’re there there, it’s for the the best.

[Anonymous]

American jail is not for rehabilitation. It's literally hell. I mean why america is so like 3rd world when it comes to jail system? It's sick to the stomach when I see inside the prison. America is devil someone said. I believe him

[OddBeMe]

Yeah. And it’s wrong. We should be teaching life skills. Can you imagine being forced to go to school everyday for 5-10 years?

[misogynistic_pig]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by "so".

If you could provide more context or information about your question, I'd be happy to help.

[OddBeMe]

Didn’t say “so”….

Basically have prisons like schools. Discipline, education etc. Obvi serial killers would be exempt lol

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You know, that could also get some homeless people to actually just commit crime just to get free food and shelter and live like a loser that kind of jail

[Anonymous]

I learnt at school psychopaths cannot be changed. They will always lack sympathy for others no matter what. I imagine a lot of criminals are psycho.