Do you trust vaccines?

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't touch the stuff

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$4,997,008,274.45 paid out so far in the USA

https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data

[MrOracle]

Let's be clear here: the COVID "vaccines" aren't actually vaccines - they were marketed to the public that way, but they aren't like traditional vaccines at all.

Further, the fact that all of the Big Pharma companies insisted (and received) FULL IMMUNITY from any and all side effects - including death - should be all you need to know about those VERY experimental therapies. And the crazy ferver the government created to force everyone to take the treatment, and then just abandoned it overnight when a large percentage of the population was pushing back and making progress politically.

And the fact that they pushed it on young children, despite mountains of evidence that young children were barely affected was another huge red flag.

Nothing the entire system did was anywhere close to being trustworthy.

[Asker]

read the link I posted there

[Anonymous]

Kids don't need the dozens of vaccines they're given.

[Anonymous]

I trust the data that shows a small amount of people have serious side effects to vaccines and that includes the common childhood vaccines. No pharmaceutical that you put in your body is risk free but the risk is small. The government does have funds to pay out vaccine related claims since people are not allowed to sue the government or vaccine makers but I’m highly skeptical they’ve paid out any claims for autism since no scientific study that I’m aware of has ever established a link between autism and vaccines.

[Asker]

they are lying about autism. many many people have been paid compensation for that. They deny it to this day. Did you see the article? did you see the link too?

[Opinion Owner]

Show me a scientific study that confirms what you’re saying. I don’t believe in conspiracy theories that require a leap of faith. If you think the entire scientific community is lying, what evidence are you basing that opinion on? There would have to be counter studies to establish the link if it was true.

[Asker]

the lawsuits, lots of them. Hundreds of millions a year, special indemnity laws to protect them. Can you see the links? these are well known cases.

[AngryCarl2]

That's obviously nonsense. If they were paying out for giving people autism they would have to admit that the vaccines caused autism, which they don't.

[Opinion Owner]

Anyone can file a lawsuit. A lawsuit does not prove a link between autism and vaccines. You need peer reviewed scientific research to do that, which does not appear to exist anywhere. Until you can show the science, you got nothing but a conspiracy theory.

[Asker]

they have every law imaginable to protect them. Special immunity laws and still pay out so much money for so much weird illnesses.

have people or have people not been paid compensation for autism from vaccines?

[Opinion Owner]

There have been roughly 1300 claims paid out over the years for childhood brain injury due to routine vaccinations. 83 of those happened to be children with autism. What you’re claiming here is extremely misleading. No claim has been paid acknowledging vaccines as the cause for autism. Study after study has been unable to link autism to vaccines. At some point, shouldn’t there be some actual evidence were it true? You’re making an inference not backed by any relevant science.

[Asker]

they have every law imaginable to protect them. Special laws. nobody else has special laws to protect them.

[Opinion Owner]

Legal protection laws don’t prove the medical claims you’re making. Period.

[Asker]

how much money has been paid in compensation? $4,997,008,274.45 with special indemnity laws in the USA alone?

[Opinion Owner]

Yes, funds are set aside for compensation because of the limited liability. A relatively small number of people do have serious reactions to common vaccines. In fact, that’s true of any pharmaceutical, even over the counter medicine. What’s your point? No one disputes that. The claim that vaccines cause autism, however, is not backed up by any current science.

[Asker]

so why did people win cases then? your saying it didn't happen. And narcolepsy, cataplexy and epilepsy too

[Opinion Owner]

They received money for brain injury. A few of those cases involved children with autism so conspiracy theorists have drawn a parallel that science cannot establish. As for the other things you mention, there a number of rare but serious side effects that can result from any vaccine. The reward is still far greater than the risk to society though.

[Asker]

you just deny the injuries. compensation is paid out all the time. The CEO of pfizer said on public television he wouldn't take his own vaccine.

[Opinion Owner]

You keep arguing the same point and I’m not disputing it. Yes, people are compensated by the government for vaccine related claims. No one is disputing that, so why do you keep repeating it like a parrot? However, the overall number of people seriously harmed by vaccines is very low, probably a fraction of a percentage point. The reward far outweighs the risk and you’re flat out wrong about a link between autism and vaccines. That has not been established by any known scientific data.

[Opinion Owner]

…and you’re flat out wrong about Pfizer ‘s CEO. He has already confirmed that he’s vaccinated, including two booster shots, on his Twitter page. You’re quite the propagandist aren’t you?

[Asker]

he said it himself on live tv more than once https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPsCHUx1u0&t=13s

[Opinion Owner]

Of course he says nothing of the sort here. This was right after the initial authorization. He says he has not gotten the vaccine but he will and that he does not want to cut in the cue. First responders and at risk people were first in line to receive it. He later was vaccinated and boosted. Like I said, you’re quite the propagandist.

[Asker]

did you read those articles there? the USA has only paid out $4,997,008,274.45. thats with special indemnity laws. Thats a lot. Thats the USA alone, what is it worldwide?

[Opinion Owner]

You’re just repeating yourself and have nothing of value to add here. Moving on.

[jshm2]

You don't matter, kiddo.

Also, there are no cases of autism associated with vaccines. The "injuries" are not because of the vaccine itself. But an allergic reaction some suffer from one or more of the buffers in the vaccine.

They would suffer the same reaction if they were to take any other medication containing that ingredient.

[Asker]

did you see the lawsuit numbers there I posted?

[qwert1234]

I do.

And I personally never seen nor heard anyone getting harmed over common vaccines.

To me, let's say the article is true, 83 out of a billion is a good ratio.

We are 7 billion on the planet. If only a billion took the vaccine and 100 claims to have had autism due to it, it is still good odds.

[gorydetails]

I was a supporter of vaccines up until the covid-19 debacle. Now I'm not entirely sure where I sit. I have no intention of ever getting a flu shot, shingles shot, or any covid shot from here on.

[Astarlessnightsky]

Yes.

[Summeroflove]

No I don’t

[BarryLiverstone]

For sure