Ones that have been tested for awhile, I have no issues with those. The typical vaccine takes 5 to 10 years and testing.
I had issues with the Covid vaccine, because the law stated the companies were immune to being sued.
If they were safe the government would not of needed to make them immune. To prove they were safe, they should of treated them like any other business.
Make them liable for side effects or permanent damage due to insufficient testing.
Over all vaccines are generally safe if they've gone through the full testing, not rushed process and I am okay with those.
@Lliam they changed the definition
I'm not a fan of any vaccines for me or my kids. With my 1st I was stupid and gave into getting them for him. Ended up having some bad side effects tho so never again
MMR and MRNA are different vaccines, but I don't care. I can accept regular, old school vaccines where they inject a tiny portion of a virus to make it easier for the body to defend itself and learn how to defeat it if it attacks again. But I am not okay with the new MRNA technology because it has not gone through enough testing to know the long term side effects. I did get the Moderna vaccine to avoid losing my job. Do I regret it? Ummm... I never wanted to get it, but I was on my way to getting my dream job and was willing to take the risk.
Did you get your dream job?
@NostalgiaSenpi Almost. One of my friends should be able to bring me in.
I never got the eugenics jab. My decision has been vindicated more and more every day.
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I have no problem with vaccinations. The anti-vax rhetoric is pure nonsense. The case you posted was extremely weak. There is no known connection between MMR and autism. I read through the entire case record. There is no serious indication that the vaccination caused autism. Just because a settlement is awarded in a lawsuits does not indicate guilt.
On top of that, the anti-vax crowd seems to forget the literally millions of lives that are saved by vaccines. Even aspirin causes the occasional death. I don't know the numbers on MMR, but I crunched the numbers on the COVID vaccine and it's safer than over the counter pain relievers like aspirin. A single case out of millions doesn't mean much of anything.
Makes you wonder when employees at the very company making the vaccine won't even take it. And if doctors couldn't be sued then why do they have malpractices insurance?
And I've heard of one hospital that got sued for 10 million for firing staff because they wouldn't get the experimental vaccine that has proven itself not to work.
Based on the billions and billions of vaccines administered to the human population over the years, and comparing to those who developed adverse reactions, there is no reason to believe they are unsafe, overall.
There will always be people who will develop a reaction.
I prefer to take the risk of the vaccine in an effort to protect my family. I don’t really want to bring them measles, or mumps, or polio.
its impossible to sue doctors. Nobody was compensated for thalidomide, or at least very few. This is only 0.1% of the actual injuries.
Spouting Wakefield nonsense is exactly the WRONG thing to do if you're trying to encourage legitimate skepticism, dude. It's the equivalent of saying that it's wrong to have trade relations with Spain, since they were responsible for the 1918 flu pandemic.
did you see the links there? do you believe what you want and not the truth? Andrew Wakefield was 20 years ago. Autism was proved to be caused by vaccinated and then there was hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuits.
No, I DO believe the truth- that's why I rejected this nonsense, in the same way I reject phrenology and Lysenkoism. You would, too, if you didn't just believe what YOU wanted to.
do you understand lawsuits? did you read what I posted. saying vaccines dont cause autism is like saying Jimmy Saville won a lawsuit against him. Yup but he lost many more.
did you see what I posted?
In general, vaccines are safe, though there is always the "outlier" person who gets an adverse reaction. There is some debate, though, whether the COVID-19 vaccine is a vaccine since it doesn't prevent the disease like a vaccine is supposed to do.
did you see what I posted?
OMG! $4,966,561,110.65? That's an amazingly specific number that appears nowhere on the internet except in this very question and in a couple of pages from "Texans for Vaccine Choice".
Sniff. Buffalo? Cow? No, that's bullshit.
My bad, it's from here: www.hrsa.gov/.../vicp-stats-02-01-23.pdf (PDF)
It talks about over 30 vaccines over 33 years, with a grand total of 25,860 claims filed, most rejected. In that time there have been hundreds of millions if not billions of vaccines administered in the US. (4 million Americans born every year, ten vaccinations each would be well over a billion.)
Fewer than 10,000 claims were found to be due to vaccines (half of them from the flu vaccine). That's one in 100,000, for a full set of vaccines, one in a million for a single one. At the same time, they've stopped the spread of dozens of diseases and all the deaths that would have occurred without them.
Do people still believe that vaccines cause autism? In 2023? Really?
But yeah, I trust vaccines. They are not perfect, nothing is, but they are extremely good and that is all I can ask for.
did you read the articles? this is a release from a US government agency of their court settlements. That is a person who sued and won for autism.
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But you didn’t post the article. You posted a picture of the article.
It’s cool. I found it. It contains this line… “No link between the jabs and autism has been found in the British courts.”
Is that why you didn’t post a link to it?
Yes, but it negates the claim “That is a person who sued and won for autism.”
@OrallyFixated many people were compensated not just them. what about the other link of the amount the USA spent on vaccine compensation.
@OrallyFixated so many many countries compensated people for it and one country is behind and you just focus on that? this was years ago so were further in science now.
No link between Autism and vaccines has ever been proven. If I remember this correctly then this was sales propaganda where someone wanted to discredit a certain vaccine in favor of selling their own vaccine which they claimed did not cause Autism.
So yeah.. That is the lie you are deciding to peddle today. Sales propaganda.. good job.
can you read how much money has been paid out on autism and stuff? $4,966,561,110.65 and thats larger now. Just remember you can't sue doctors their immune, nobody got anything for thalidomide, or at least very few.
so people are being paid compensation then why?
lots of money and every law imaginable to be against them and thats your answer? you trust authority too much. I am sure you probably would trust them when they said thalidomide of cigarettes were safe too.
thalidomide only a few people got money. Thats suing doctors for you. They are immune. You think those numbers are safe?
I go by lawsuits and how difficult they are. Are you aware of the links I posted there? thats a lot of money.
you dotn sue doctors of the government. They can do anything. Thats a lot of money.
is there or is there not regular settlements for vaccines causing autism?
so what about the court cases then? only 250 million a year in the USA alone.
how many lawsuits were there? at the taxpayers expense? read what I posted
so you believe what you want? 250 million a year at your expense including autism mens nothing to you? you only have indemnity laws if your planning on breaking the law
jesus christ you just believe what you want. can you understand lawsuits or what? jesus christ. Ever read the side effects or immunity laws
You don't sue governments. certainly not for 250 million a year. To do that you need some serious truth on your side. so your saying you ignore court cases then?
No you dont. People sue the government literally every day over every stupid thing you can imagine and some of them even win. It proves nothing and you are not going to court with "truth", you go to them with a book of law and argue why your reading of it is good while the other person is illiterate.
did you see the amount of money there? for fuck sake believe what you want. But dont be surprised if your kids get autism from the MMR.
so you would give your kids a product after its been proven to cause autism? only a few hundred million in lawsuits.
you don't understand doctors and vaccines are different. They are INDEMNIFIED from lawsuits. You are only indemnified for a reason. When you are planning on being sued in abundance.
I am sure when they said thalidomide was safe and the lawsuits were nonsense you probably would have said the same. Same with smoking dangers being "debunked" like doctors said too.
then again if your willing to give something to your kids after a few hundred millions of dollars in lawsuits. You have a problem.
so they lost a few hundred million dollars why? Why are there indemnity laws for them?
ok if their so safe how much are food products sued for every year?
I am sure you would have taken thalidomide if scientists said its claims were debunked which they did.
Again. Dont care. Its literally unimportant. Prove it to me instead. Show me why vaccines gives you autism. Otherwise, I may as well just point to different countries that does not have lawsuits regarding vaccines giving autism because that is retarded and a uniquely American problem quite frankly.
you would take something after a few trillion dollars in lawsuits and been proven to cause all kinds of illnesses. Wow your naive.
so you'd take something that would be banned if it was not indemnified? after aaaaaaaaall that money and the laundry list of side effects.
ok if their so safe why are fizzy drinks not banned. Nobody is suing over them.
well there's no indemnity laws protecting it there is there?
listen man 250 million a month in compensation and indemnity laws there to protect them. You'd take that and give it to your kids? do whatever the fuck you want.
I cannot believe you'd give something that has been proven to cause autism and needs special laws to protect it to your kids. Anyway do what you want.
ok USA 250 million in compensation a year on autism and epilepsy and narcolepsy and stuff and special indemnity laws to protect them and you think thats ok. Do what you want.
so 250 million a year in compensation and special indemnity laws to protect them and your ok with that. Ok whatever suits you.
tell me anyone else who paid out hundreds of millions every year on compensation and needs special indemnity laws to protect themself? you don't sue doctors they can do what they want.
I have not gotten stuck with even a flu shot since I could say No at 12 years old….
How do they know their son developed autism as a result of being vaccinated? That is a contention. Maybe he had unrecognized autism all along?
RE COVID, never poked and never will be.
Pneumonia, yes.
They have a new one now coming out, but I’m not gonna do that. I’m done with that stuff unless it’s another big crisis again.
Hardly anyone here does any more, but people who work with the elderly or immune deficient (and those who are immune deficient) still do. Unfortunately, there are assholes who purposefully cough at them in shops.
Oh, one other class of people who wear masks: people with covid.
I wear a mask if someone near me is wearing one. It protects both of us and shows respect. (Medical or FFP2/N95 masks.)
I only got one. I got so sick that I refuse to get another
I got vaccinated but I really regret it ….
@PrettyPriya lordy more stupid shit
Only the sheep got the vac.
I did, but not any more.
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