Vaccinations, yea, or nay?

[MysteryPerson70]

why or why not?

Yea

Nay

[Chadnelson1973]

Because they are toxic they contain lead Mercury and aluminum Wich are nerotoxins. Nerotoxins affect the brain thinking and development.
Lead , aluminum , Mercury , fermeldahyde animal DNA aborted fetal DNA.
Tap water usually has between 60 and 💯 parts per million

Shots such as the flu shot or immunization contain 100 parts per BILLION
So if I put aluminum , lead , Mercury and animal DNA aborted fetal DNA and other ingredients and told you to drink it would you?
Chances are you wouldn't drink it and you would point out that it's poison.
I read the incerts the ingredients the list of dangers and possible side affects and to me those risk are to high.
A doctor , a nurse , a pharmacist they are not experts on flu shots or immunization shots.
Everyday Big pharma especially the hospitals and drug manufacturer want us to get more flu shots more immunization shots , more drugs and pills. Take a look at the drug manufacturer that are in court for opioids. They want a all in one immunization shot kids as young as 2 ,4 and 6 months old are dying or end up with physical disabilities or mental disabilities. That's a risk I'm not willing to take. Weather you are for immunization or against it read the incerts do the research. Check out VRM website vaccine resistance movement and March against Monsanto.
How many of you know the story behind the Raggedy Ann and Andy?
About 1912 -1915 the father of a girl received a vaccine at school without his permission she died a week later the dolls and stories were a warning and the beginning of the vaccine resistance movement.

Why are there so many mal practice law suits , drug recalls lately? Big Pharma doesn't make all the records and dangers known and people die or get injured.
Look at opioids , baby powder , hernia mesh , artificial hip and knees. Wisperdal a antidepressant that caused men and boys to produce female breast.
Big Pharma is more interested in profits than safety.
In order to sue big pharma you have to enter a class action lawsuit. In 1985 Ronald Reagan signed a excutive order taking away your right to sue big pharma as a individual private citizen. Made it that class action lawsuits were the only way and in this way protecting big pharma and their profits. They loose less money in class action than they do if a bunch of private individual citizens sue.
How many lawyer ads do you see everyday on class action lawsuits?

[Rob171977]

It's funny that you mentioned 1912-1915 because that's around the same time the Federal Reserve started to come in to existence. Funny coincidence I think not!!!

[musicbrain5]

Where did you get that information from? It sounds like a lot of anti-vax propaganda to me.

[Rob171977]

@musicbrain5 Do a google research to when the Federal Reserve came in to business it'll give you the exact year which is around the same time the vaccination crap started and the process of dumbing down America as well

[Chadnelson1973]

Well as far as the Federal Reserve there's nothing federal about it it's not run by the government it's owned by the Rothchilds and run by them and other bankers under the direction of the Rothchilds

[Rob171977]

@Chadnelson1973 I know which is why I said that and if you look at the year they came into existence it was around the same time frame as all this vaccination started

[Chadnelson1973]

The CEOs CFOs presidents and vice presidents of drug manufacturer companies don't get vaccines for themselves or their families

[Rob171977]

@Chadnelson1973 The more people get doped up on these toxic vaccines the easier it is for the Rothschilds, Bilderbergs, Rockefellers, Oppenheimers and all others (partically banks) to get easier access to people's money. Hence the dumbing down of America

[Rob171977]

@Chadnelson1973 And to help further the dumbing down of America think about the flouride in the water and the effects that has on the brain

[musicbrain5]

@Rob171977 First of all, I asked WHERE this information came from - unless he just made it up, it had to come from somewhere. Who did this research originally? Where was it published? Provide a source at least. I did not ask WHEN.

And no, I’m not doing your research for you. You guys are the ones making these statements, and you should be able to back them up with sources. Otherwise, it’s just a baseless opinion.

[Rob171977]

@Chadnelson1973 Of ource they don't because they know how toxic and what kind of poisons are in those things and how badly the drugs are contaminated with neurtoxins that fuck up a person's brain and neuropattern/neurobrainwaves/neurofrequency

[Rob171977]

@musicbrain5 Guess what I'm not listing sources you got two hands and 10 fingers I presume you can do your own research instead of having people spoonfeed it to you it's what many of us had to do on our own to gain the knowledge we have.

[Rob171977]

@musicbrain5 And doing your own research is the only way you learn

[Chadnelson1973]

I agree do research unfortunately there's a lot of people who don't research and follow blindly

[Nachowedgie]

Finally 2 people on this site with brains. I'm following the both of you rn

[Boppy]

I'm not sure why you emphasized BILLION.
That made the amount seem even smaller.

[Boppy]

Yes because I see the smallpox eradication campaign as one of the greatest human accomplishments.

If you don't know about smallpox, it's a nightmare of a disease. Highly contagious, sudden and then painful on a scale of weeks, followed by death (usually mortality occurs when the person is starting to recover) or permanent scars.

It took multiple years to eliminate and outbreak tracking and targeted vaccines were the main combo for saving humanity from it.

It was pretty recent. It was still around when my parents were growing up.

[wittymilf]

We don’t know the long term impact of this on humanity, it doesn’t matter what we think, herd mentality will force this upon anyone who thinks the have the right of choice anyway.

[Deathraider]

Inoculation, or purposely infecting people with a disease as to make them immune (though the disease would be prepared in a way as to make it less likely to kill), existed since 10th century in China and shown to work. The first vaccine has been around since 1796.

We know the long term effects already.

[Nachowedgie]

No we dont

[wittymilf]

We know that diseases evolve now, we know that when humans meet new diseases they generally can’t from any kind of natural immunity. We don’t know weather or not humans could have evolved to a place where our immune systems had developed to evolve as fast as diseases. All I know is that I’m not immunised and I haven’t had the flu in 23 years. I’ve had 6 sick leave days in my working life I don’t know another person like me.

[Daniela1982]

Wow! Are you an alien or what? No one on earth has that record.

[erandal]

I am a huge fan of staying alive so yes. I have had them and my children have had them.

[Massageman]

The typical vaccinations- pox, DP, tetanus, polio, yes. Flu- no. The only time I got flu vaccine- about 15 years ago- I got the flu. It's always a crapshoot at best, and I haven't gotten the flu since.

[ZeGrandeLampshade]

Vaccines infect the body against a modified strain of the disease which creates ANTIBODIES which fight the disease and any future infections. This is SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE, and whilst you may feel like shit for a few days whilst your body fights the disease, you are now effectively immune to the disease because your body has natural antibodies which it has built against the weaker strain which can fight other strains of the infection before they develop. Tried and tested. I've been vaccinated myself, and I'm none the worse for it as far as I can tell. If anything it's saved me from getting tetanus/Hep B, so I'm pretty grateful honestly.

[Anonymous]

I had a psychiatry organization try to force vaccinations on me which they wanted to administer to me when I didn't know the nurse who would be doing it and they tried to force me to sign legal documents which they weren't clearly explaining what they were about. I walked out storming mad. This was last week. I know how dangerous those vaccinations are and why I would never inject that poisonous crap in to my own body and the mere fact that an organization a psychiatric organization tried forcing that on me is utterly sickening

[PeacefulRainDrop]

I am proud of you for taking a stand! Great job!

[JackSmy]

The 'Flu Shot' is a 'Best Guess' each year as to what strain might be most common. They screw the pooch on that as much as weather forecasters!
I got it this year, because the doctor said I needed that, just in case, because of some medical issues. The injected vaccine is not live virus, and you can't get the 'flu' or a 'cold' from it, and unless you are allergic to eggs, it really doesn't hurt you to have it. It might help, sometimes. . .

[TadCurious]

Vaccinations are one of the greatest scientific achievements in human history.

[musicbrain5]

Sometimes I wish it would show the downvotes.

[TadCurious]

@musicbrain5
I just wish the antivaxxer people would visit an older cemetery and see all the markers and headstones from a century ago, marking all the graves of babies and very young children who died from diseases that are prevented now because of vaccinations. We take so much for granted and we so soon forget just how commonplace that suffering was.

[musicbrain5]

If only we lived in an ideal world. Look at some of the propaganda/brainwashing being spewed in this question alone. These people are responsible for the current outbreaks of measles and pertussis.

[BellumEtPacem]

Yes. Vaccines are one of many measures of stopping and eliminating diseases such as Smallpox. I think they'll return though due to the incompetence of some who obtusely think that vaccines are a negative thing. People forget how truly devastating a disease can be. They'll learn how in the not too distant future I'm sure.

[Exorcist_Rampage]

No. I'm anti-vaccinations because it's a gimmick. Nobody needs a drug to remain healthy. People survived deep into their 80s and 90s even inside of the 1st 5 centuries and didn't get injected.

[JackSmy]

@Exorcist_Rampage Yeah, some did survive, but a lot died, suffering horribly!
Just because one person survives, doesn't mean much of anything except that they avoided infection, or that they are resistant.
Someone came up with this concept of vaccinations to maybe help more people live, by exposing them before, so they can build immunity.
It's OK to be a selfish kind, and mock vaccinations, but don't fck it up for ones that need it!! Millions died from smallpox until the vaccine, Millions died from Polio, or were disabled, before the vaccine.
The elderly, some children, and others that are immune compromised need these to live, and not get horribly sick!
Don't mock it, so simply!

[Unit1]

Generally yeah. UNLESS it's H1N1 or anything of that type. The outrage about it back in 2009 proved it's true purpose to spread fear by telling a big lie Hitler style. Clever folks behind those curtains. They were successful.

[Shamalien]

I support people getting them of their own free will, NOT being forced tho

[Gavyn]

I support forced vaccinations. Polio shouldn’t come back because “Becky” over there decided that vaccines will give her kids autism (which they won’t) and that preventing that is SOMEHOW worth the risk of Polio, Tetanus, Smallpox, Measles, etc.

That’s retarded. Get your f*cking vaccines, you moron (not you, anyone who’s a “Becky” out there).

[Shamalien]

Oh so you wanna force people to take needles against their will? I hope you like the barrel of a shotgun in your mouth

[Gavyn]

Hell yeah I do. It’s better than them being the cause of the return of Polio and Smallpox, you numbskull.

[Thatsamazing]

Stupid posts reducing really complicated science into idiotic questions: Yea or nay?

[Anonymous]

I'm a strong "anti-vaxxer"!!!
It's been GREAT not ever getting the flu for 22 years, since I've been smart enough NOT to get any flu shots for that length of time.

[bulletbob555]

I've had vacinations it's only helped me and hasn't hurt me

[jimmy2]

Allthough the news said this year the flu shot is off what it really is... and yet i still do get a shot becase it so it makes the flu not so bad

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yes. Its healthy and protects the child from potential deadly illnesses.

[esotericstory]

Only for polio, tetanus, not like things like the flu that return every year anyway.

[Anonymous]

Depends on the vaccine, some are not worth the risk

[jeemm]

I like living so yay.

[Daniela1982]

People die of the Flu so why not?

[Nachowedgie]

Only people with compromised immune systems do

[Daniela1982]

@Nachowedgie Well there sure were a lot in 1918 when over 20 million died of Influenza/

[Nachowedgie]

And any educated person knows why

[Daniela1982]

@Nachowedgie Why don't you bite me!!
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[Nachowedgie]

Why would I bite you? That's just unhygienic p

[Daniela1982]

@Nachowedgie I'll give you the flu

[Nachowedgie]

And then all I'll get is a runny nose and maybe a cough for a day because my immune system is really good

[Marilynjuana]

I still have a brain cell or two so obviously yay.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Yeah , i do support getting them

[Iron_Man]

Always take a vacation there a must

[Iron_Man]

Oops sorry read it wrong

[MysteryPerson70]

not really

[Anonymous]

Yes! Anti vaxxers are retarded

[LuWe22]

Yay. I'm up to date

[40Ninjas]

Yeah

[Anonymous]

yea cause flu sucks

[Nachowedgie]

You can't vaccinate against the flu

[Daniela1982]

@Nachowedgie Then someone is making a lot of money for Flu shots.

[Nachowedgie]

Yeah, that's exactly the point

[Gavyn]

@Daniela1982 Flu shots aren’t vaccinations as much as they are prep, IIRC... they just expose you to a small amount of the (or a) current strain of the flu so that your body builds antibodies.

[Red_Arrow]

"A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins."
So the disease does not have to be caused by bacteria. And though flu vaccines have to be general because of the variations, they can be made and are about 50% effective overall. You can vaccinate against flu and you should. And all vaccines work by building antibodies.

[Nachowedgie]

Pumping unnecessary toxins into your body is something nobody should be doing

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie But if they’re gonna get there anyway, might as well make a use out of it.

[Nachowedgie]

They wouldn't get there anyway

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie 1600-1900: HELP EVERYONE’S DYING OF POLIO AND SMALLPOX
2019: Pfft that stuff ain’t a problem, so why do we even need the things that make it not a problem?

Do you see why you sound stupid, son?

[Nachowedgie]

You evidently haven't read anything I've written as I did say "unnecessary" up above. You're the only one that sounds stupid, kid

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie You’re telling me there’s things in there that are harmful that you’d never encounter normally, but I disagree

[Nachowedgie]

Then you're a moron plain and simple

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie lol k

[Nachowedgie]

Please point out where we'd naturally consume foods or drinks that have formaldehyde in them, a chemical that is used to stop dead bodies from decomposing. Please do I'd love to know

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie I work with chemicals, sooooo...

[Nachowedgie]

That's not answering my question, that's avoiding it because you damn well know you can't

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie Or am I just tired and know you’re full of shit? The world may never know... :)

[Nachowedgie]

So you can't answer because you've no clue what you're talking about, duly noted, thanks

I asked you a simple question, giving you a chance to prove me wrong yet all you've done is act like the immature teen you are so you brought this embarrassment upon yourself, kid.

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie I’ll just let you think you’re right and let natural selection take it’s course from here. After all, there’s no way you’ve done any real learning on this, just internet articles that I have no inclination to believe. Without going to college for this, you’re about as uneducated as I am. The main difference is that at this rate my children will live long enough to educate themselves. :)

[Nachowedgie]

Still avoiding my question I see, you continue to prove my point.

You don't need to go to college to know that putting chemicals in the human body that shouldn't be there in the first place is a bad thing, it takes common sense, something you clearly don't possess an ounce of.

Aside from that fact, you've no clue whether I've gone to college for it or not, another example of your naivety

Being misinformed isn't the same as being educated, it's the exact opposite. Your ignorance (Because your still a teenager who thinks he's hot shit online) is the reason people like yourself remain uneducated.

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie You don’t need to go to college to know that Polio, Smallpox, and Tetanus kill people either. Think about it this way. There is a minuscule chance that if you get a vaccine it will be more harmful than helpful. However, if you contract anything mentioned above, there’s at least a moderate chance it’ll kill you. Pick your poison, friend. It should be obvious that vaccines are far less risky and unpredictable in the long run, especially as immigrants are bringing smallpox and polio with them here, and you don’t know what they’re touching ;)

[Nachowedgie]

Now I know you haven't been reading anything I've written as I've already said this but I guess I have to say it again for small brain over here. Look I'll even quote it for you "Pumping unnecessary toxins into your body is something nobody should be doing" Notice the word "unnecessary" do you know why I said that? Because the topic this whole daft debate you've been having with yourself is centred around vaccines, but more importantly it's centred around a comment someone made, the one at the top of the thread, the one that reads "yea cause flu sucks" now I hope after you've been spoon fed this information like the child you are you'll understand why I said "unnecessary"

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie Now you’re avoiding my statements :) I never denied that, I actually acknowledged that. Even still, the risk for harm is much lower than the risk of death from disease

[Nachowedgie]

I don't have to respond to each of your individual statements to have read them, considering all you've been doing is arguing with yourself the whole time.

No you didn't, you actually did the exact opposite. Do you not remember saying "But if they’re gonna get there anyway, might as well make a use out of it."

"Even still, the risk for harm is much lower than the risk of death from disease"

"Much lower" No that's not the case but there are vaccines we need and vaccines we don't. My comment was in relation to the ones we don't need. Are you happy I've spoon fed you a little more now kiddo?

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie I don’t like your condescending tone. I don’t read your arguments because I know you’re wrong.

[Nachowedgie]

I don't like your deliberate ignorance

"Without going to college for this, you’re about as uneducated as I am."

So if you're uneducated then how can you "know" I'm wrong. The answer is you don't, you're just ignorant plain and simple and you have nothing to back yourself up with. I've given you plenty opportunities to prove me wrong yet every time you ignore them or behave like a child in response. You're pathetic.

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie Alright, you can’t argue with results. How about that? People are living the longest lives ever in history.

[Nachowedgie]

Humanity is the sickest and the dumbest that it's been in a very long time

[Nachowedgie]

I love how you still avoid everything I say though xD the patheticess continues

[Gavyn]

@Nachowedgie Lmao that shows how ignorant you are you moron.

[Anonymous]

Yeah

[jon28805]

Yea.

[JesseJayNeak]

Vaccines save lives

[Anonymous]

Surely yeah.