
I saw this on Twitter and was shocked what a crazy take it was.
I am not a fan of feminism but I find individuals such as this just as bad.
They are often a detriment to the conservative causes I fight for because they hate half of the population.
I saw this on Twitter and was shocked what a crazy take it was.
I am not a fan of feminism but I find individuals such as this just as bad.
They are often a detriment to the conservative causes I fight for because they hate half of the population.
Incels felt entitled to something they couldn't have. They wanted the prom queen/head cheerleader type and knew that they'd never end up with that type of woman so they are lashing out and throwing a tantrum. What's funny is that they could be dating people. They absolutely could have girlfriends but they only want to date who they call "Stacy"
I've got into it with so many incels over this and it always comes out that they want the prettiest girl. They demand the prettiest girl instead of someone they might actually match with better. If they feel like they are a 4 then it would be logical to then maybe date who they consider a 4. But they only want to go for 10s. Then they get mad that life isn't fair that they didn't get their "Stacy" and they aren't "Chad"
That's just incels. Guys who aren't incels but are just misogynistic, that's about power. They want to control women. They don't like women thinking for themselves or making decisions for themselves. They're afraid that a woman who isn't always at home might be able to actually think for herself and live how she wants. Keeping a woman locked away at home is a way of controlling them. A narcissist and manipulator's first action in a relationship is to separate a woman from her friends and family and make them more dependent on him. The mentality is no different. They don't want an equal or loving companion, they want someone to control. Almost like a pet. It's pathetic and disturbing. They'd fit right in with the Taliban. That's exactly what they do with their women sadly.
I've just run into so many of them and it's the same thing over and over again. Hive mind mentality.
@mandyfire98 Then when you tell them they have unrealistic standards, their response would be âwhy would I settle for less?â đ They go for women out of their league, then blame ALL women for rejecting him.
I agree with this analysis. The only think I'd add is it's also become fashionable for women to hate men, or to have negative or demeaning ideas about them, and for this to go unchecked. There's a general adversarial relationship between the sexes which if you think about it, is bizarre, but also needs investigating.
Only negative towards men who are misogynists. If you have any misogynistic ideas then you deserve to be hated. Any idea that doesn't view men and women as equals in society and views women as being less than men should be hated and those people should be ridiculed in every way.
There's literally a bunch of men on this site alone that I see claiming that women shouldn't be allowed to work and should only be housewives. Like wtf? What year is this? Absolute nonsense. They love these "traditional" views so much. Traditional like a time when women were viewed as second class citizens. Or the same time when black people were drinking from separate water fountains and couldn't eat in restaurants with white people. Those "traditional" times.
As long as you don't think you are superior to anyone then women won't hate you. If you have any view that puts you above women and not on the same level then yes we will hate those people that believe that. It's about equality. If you don't like equality then you are a bad person. (Not specifically you) just in general.
I think some guys think getting a girl is about changing your options and not about changing yourself to increase your opportunities.
Like one guy might spend his time on self improvement and date one girl a year while another guy might spend no time on self improvement and date 300 girls a year.
In the end the guy who dates one girl a year has a higher chance cause he made himself somebody that girls would like while the guy who just blindly throws as many seeds into the garden as possible will end up single or in an unhappy relationship cause good girls will choose other guys over him and all 300 will choose somebody else over him.
I've seen it happen with multiple guys that thought multiplying their opportunity was more important than multiplying their self improvement. They dated for one decade or two decades before they found a wife. The guys that improved themselves married the first girl they ever dated and those girls have PhDs.
And self improvement should be a given, whether you're looking for a partner or not.
Guys are natural problem solvers. This works until you reach an unsolvable problem.
There is a social shift going on. And it's only going to get worse. Women a 150 years. Ago couldn't vote and in many instances were almost considered a step up from property. This has changed over the past 150 years. Each successive generation of women has more freedom to pursue her own destiny. Her biology may pull her to raise a family. But that does but mean that's all that defines her. She has hopes, dreams, and aspirations. And these social movements have given her more freedom than anytime in history to pursue them. So you have a deep division in women. Some want to be traditional, some want to be anything but, and some want the best of both worlds.
One things for certain. Men no longer have the same role. As result men have been forced to define a new role for themselves. And I think inceks have forgotten thier inherent power as men. They see themselves as victims of a broken system. Yes the system is broken. But men are NEVER victims. There is nothing wrong with them shaking thier head at the absurdity of it all. But a guy needs to remember he's not handed anything. He fights for it all! And he doesn't quit. He can choose to not engage in unwinnable battles. But he never quits. That's how many has come so far. Every intelligent needs to remember they're part of that legacy and remember what it means to be a man.
I agree with battlefields, legislatures, and courts. Women have consistently demonstrated that they make very poor soldiers, leaders, and judges, but everywhere else seems fine.
Universities and other schools should have separate schooling for boys and girls because they have different learning styles, but girls should still receive an education because who wants a retard for a wife?
Same thing with gyms. They should be gender separated, but barring women entirely doesn't make sense because who wants a lard-ass for a wife?
Not allowing women into stadiums seems dumb and arbitrary. It's social entertainment.
And the marketplace absolutely should allow women because where else are they going to get the stuff they need to cook? If the argument is against women business owners, I can understand that pov from the perspective of women making poor leaders, but there's no reason she can't assist in running a business though.
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Because they're unrealistic about the way the world works. By virtue of the law of supply and demand, women enjoy a sizable advantage over men in terms of sexual relationships. Therefore, any guy who wants to have an intimate sexual relationship with a woman has to make himself desirable to her. If they're not willing to do that, then they have no right to complain about their inability to have sex with women, because they don't deserve it, as far as I'm concerned.
Thank you very much for the point, sir, and if I can add one other thing, just because a guy isn't getting any pussy doesn't mean he has to become bitter, angry and withdrawn. I assure you that there are plenty of guys who aren't able to enjoy any penetrative sex with women (or only do so very rarely) and they're nevertheless able to be very happy, both in their relationships with women and in their lives overall. You have to make the best of what you have, and if necessary, turn a potentiality negative situation into a positive one. I should know, because that's what I've done in my own life.
A man becomes an incel typically because he's seriously immature and has a deep sense of entitlement.
He believes he deserves the best woman out there in terms of physical beauty and personality when he himself isn't any of those things by a long shot.
Moreover, these type of men view women or think women should have the decency to initiate a hello or desire to be around them just because he's a man or whatever BS he thinks.
I once saw a video of Elliott Roger, that dude that went on a rampage in L. A. and just listening to this guy talk about himself, one will think he's God.
Super cocky, immature, delusional, entitled and full of himself easily explained why no women desired him.
Healthy humility in life takes you a long way with people.
Or maybe women DID like him, but he was too blind to see it or be patient about it. After all, I think he was only 22 when he killed himself. đ
I don't know man. I know plenty of college athletes that are cocky, immature, and arrogant that women still flock to
@WhiteBoyChill: There's no way in hell you will get a girl if you don't talk or initiate with them.
Cocky dudes at least say hello and try to talk to girls.
@TenderFantasy: No, the guy was just a pure crazy p. o. s.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Yes but the point I made in my most recent question is that I havenât been talking to girls, because Iâve felt no interest in the ones Iâve been living around.
Iâve only ever really thought about dating foreign women over the past few years
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy I just looked him up. To me at least, he was not a bad looking guy. He probably just needed to tone down what you (and a lot of people) were referring to as 'crazy' and I think he would have probably succeeded. I've seen uglier men, get women and get laid so..
@TenderFantasy: Its not about physical looks. Ugly dudes get girls (mostly ugly girls) all the time.
Elliot Rodgers like all mass shooters are just mentally insane and have no charm, kindness and horrible attitudes.
@TenderFantasy the amount of women that came out and said they liked after he carried out the attack was astounding, there was an entire fan club dedicated to him.
I thought we lived in a modern century until i talked with my brother in law.
He advocates violence against non christians, believes polygamy should be legalized, and thinks women dont have any purpose but to serve men. He said if his wife isn't in "the mood" he forces her, because she signed a contract requiring her to "hearken" unto him.
I was horrified.
Oh, and when i told him he is crazy, he labeled me a "progressive liberal" destroying america.
He doesn't know he is fundamentalist, because he thinks he is the "normal" one and everyone else is wrong. He is very polaraized and views anyone different as a direct attack on his existence
Because they are socially inept and unable to attract a partner. Rather than attempting to become more attractive, they blame their failure on others and feel that life has been unfair to them. So they focus their anger on the people they perceive as their persecutors.
I guess it's cause they feel like men are losing their privilege and being discriminated against which is maybe not 100 % false but they definitely go too far and what they're doing / saying doesn't help in anything. They just sound like troll most of the time.
It doesn't sound like a woman hater, just a traditionalist. This guy may have been this way from the start, and not necessarily that he became that way over bad experiences. I don't think there's anything wrong with this comment actually.
Because they have no game, refuse to make the changes necessary, are pissed that women don't sympathize with this and then they're left in their childhood bedrooms learning how to make bombs and chatting to children on discord
Or something like that
Incels are unhappy because they cannot have something that they desperately want. Sometimes its not really their fault - they do not have the ability, personality etc, to be attractive to women.
That would just be sort of sad - except when they decide to blame women for their own failings. Then it becomes poisonous.
The same way some people become racists ; they have personal problems which they project onto social issues.
To these fuckwits, it's "women" who are holding them back, instead of their own shit personality, and lack of self development.
Because conservative media has led them to believe (inaccurately) that women of their choice owe them sex. Including lesbians.
What if itâs ultimately not about women?
What do you get when you have tens of millions of young men, with no inherent purpose, no families to care for, no friends or close relationships to live for? With no hope for the future, terrible financials, raging hormones and a deep hatred for a system they feel has wronged them?
I think everyone commenting is asking the wrong questions and coming to the wrong conclusions.
Men are incels because they have no romantic success, which is because modern women would increasingly rather ride the cick carousel and get passed around by top tier men rather than settle down with an average man. In the past there were fewer incels because most men had the opportunity to have wives and families and thus had an incentive to contribute to society. No guy gives a damn about a society that expects him to die a virgin, and many will in fact root for it to come crashing down.
I like that women have rights and I support feminism. I do not want to be a husband and have to take care of a wife and kids. I want to be a single father via surrogacy and raise my family the way I want to. LGBT and feminism have made surrogacy and many fertility treatments for single men who want a family and no partner and I support them.
I find it amusing that you assume they are incels, obviously that stuff is stupid. But in the modern world women are far more likely to reject because of looks and conditions such as Autism. Every single incel mass shooter has Autism, but no one seems to want to accept that fact.
I'm curious why you chose to use the term incel here. What you're taking about is misogyny, which has nothing to do with involuntary celibacy. I've only known a couple of guys in my life who had the attitudes shown in your meme, and they were definitely not celibate. In fact they got laid more than most guys.
WellâŚobviously they have some emotional issues around women, likely stemming from their feminist mothersâŚ.
but hereâs the elephant in the room. Womanâs role in society has changed rapidly and they are simply not well suited to a lot of these new environments where for 100s of years they did not participate in
It's okay to not subscribe to Feminism.
Problem arises when people speak against women like they aren't even human.
Because they canât get women so they build up resentment
Being brainwashed by the garbage they read online, plus severe immaturity.
Imho they are lazy and not prepared to put any effort in, then they have a tantrum,,,
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