men complain about lack of authenticity on dating apps and then trick women into sleeping with them in the name of "liberal"
as somebody who's liberal, it's very offensive to me. why in heaven's name would you do that?
if you're a conservative man, shouldn't you go out with a conservative woman? or if you like liberal woman, shouldn't it be must she knows the real you, attitude and core values?
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Dating preferences don't hurt, the mockery and disrespect does.
Why Do Guys Lie About Being Liberal?
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Oh baby, let me tell you, these guys lying about being liberal are just trying to get into your pants with their fake political stances. They're like chameleons, changing their colors to blend in with their surroundings, except in this case, they're blending in with your liberal beliefs just to get a taste of that sweet, sweet liberal lovin'.
And don't even get me started on the illuminaties that come to mind when I think about these lying assholes. I'm talking demonic horns sprouting from their foreheads, their tongues flicking out like snakes as they spew their lies, their eyes turning red with the fires of hell as they try to seduce you with their fake liberal bullshit.
But let me tell you, if you want a real man, you need to find someone who's authentic and true to their beliefs. Whether they're conservative or liberal, they need to own it and be proud of who they are. And if they're lying about something as fundamental as their political beliefs, what else are they lying about?
So don't be fooled by these lying scumbags. Find someone who's real, someone who's true to themselves, and someone who can transvestigate you the kind of all seeing eyes that you deserve.
I don't know a lot about that app but I would guess a character limit is at least in part responsible for the perception of rudeness. It's hard to figure out a respectful way of saying something when you are struggling to say it at all. And when it comes to dating apps, men generally assume no one is going to be reading it anyway.
All that said, liberal is a pretty broad term. Surely you've heard of TERFs? They largely consider themselves liberal. The tiniest awareness of real life injustice, and the desire that something be done about it, is all it really takes to fall under the term liberal. It doesn't have to mean the person is opposed to all injustice, though most liberals would prefer that it did mean that - myself included, but I also acknowledge the practical benefits to having people who would only consider themselves allies for a tiny fraction of the fights worth fighting: those fights will be fought eventually, after all..
Just as you said, they want sex. They do care about her, they don't value her, all they do is see an outlet for lost, all whilst pretending to be liberal and pretending to be conservative. Fuck em in the eye with fencing wire
I don't see how his desire not to date trans or obese people pertains to his political beliefs. And we don't all need to date people who agree with us politically. Mature adults can handle disagreement.
Is there a tactful way to say such things? Like if a disabled person messages you, is there a tactful way to tell them you won't date them because they're disabled?
Well, I wouldn't mind the blunt honesty. I can be that way myself often. But I don't think anyone's dating preferences relate to their political beliefs, superficially speaking. It seems your real issue is just saying it in publically rather than waiting to tell them directly? I tend to lean toward wanting them to just say it in their bio, then I don't have to waste time messaging them, only to find out I wasn't their type for some reason.
As someone from a country with 10 political parties represented in our 169 seat parliament for a population of just 5,4 million... "Conservative" and "liberal" is almost useless tags because *everyone* has far more nuanced views then that. Even in countries like the US that has first past the post and therefore mainly two parties.
I suggest that if politics is important to you in a partner that you get to know them before you do something you might regret with them.
Honestly speaking, I think there’s a difference between being liberal and open to accept the dignity of “different” people and having sexual tastes or preferences. This was a dating app screen so the guy evidenced his own tastes and there’s nothing wrong with it, it has poorly to do with being liberal and acceptation of differences, being liberal doesn’t mean his sexual tastes have to be inclusive.
The only thing on the man’s phrase I can point the finger to is the manner: he’s been pretty discourteous to refer to other people that way.
Feel like this a trick question. I am not a liberal or conservative and honestly, I avoid woman that are too pollical. But for someone like me when she says she is liberal or conservative... I don't really know what it means honestly.
Because you can still be liberal or conservative and still be open and accepting and respectful of other peoples prospective. So I think too many people, including myself, give woman or people in general too much credit, when they say they this or that.
But you are correct when some proclaims themselves a bleeding-heart liberal or gun carrying conservative... it seldom works out... I usually pass on them myself. But I have fallen victim to the liberal, because you think because they are liberal they are open minded and accept of other people... but liberals are just as bad as conservatives.
"But for someone like me when she says she is liberal or conservative... I don't really know what it means honestly." ... I agree, and most people don't even know THEMSELVES what they mean because they've never really thought about it.
"Because you can still be liberal or conservative and still be open and accepting and respectful of other peoples' prospective."... This statement I don't agree with in total. For one thing, some "perspectives" are not worth respecting, let alone accepting, and we make those judgments every day whether we realize it or not. For example: flat earthers. If you tell me you believe that, sure, I can accept that you believe it. But I'm not going to "respect" your belief because there's a mountain of proof that you're wrong. Another example: " Drag Queens are sexually abusing kids." As a perspective, what is it based on? It's certainly not evidence based if you compare the number of drag queens arrested and charged with SA vs the number of clergy, child care workers, or FAMILY members who are. So, I've no reason to "respect your perspective" if that's it because it's simply not true.
" but liberals are just as bad as conservatives." No. If you show a "liberal" REAL evidence, ACTUAL facts and information that legitimately disproves or throws doubt on their belief, they will listen, re-evaluate, and likely change their stance. Very few Conservatives will or CAN do this because they will dispute the evidence, call the facts "fake" and dismiss the whole thing as propaganda.
Therefore, I disagree with your perspective on conservatives vs liberals. :) LOL
I think he might well actually be liberal, centrist, or slightly right. Notice his list: (1) Trans — he wants a real woman; quite understandable. Probably has mostly been matched with trans. Doesn't mean any dislike or non-acceptance.
(2) Obese — he wants at least mildly attractive women. Also, if I had to guess, many of his matches have also been with the obese.
(3) This one is most telling. Chances are, it is conservative girls who'd be the ones with this stance. He is not dating for marriage (as many conservatives tend to do). So, that's already a hint that he's not super conservative at the minimum.
Because most women (in the West) are TERRIFIED of not being part of the popular crowd and standing on their own 2 feet-thus likely taking criticism. Guys know how quickly they'll scream to the sky how liberal they are IN A SECOND to keep from being ostracized, so it's the only way for us. I lost count LONG AGO of how many females I've come across who are from well off families, all espousing how "liberal" they are... but don't want to go anywhere the places that are the most busted up and risky. They just like it sounds to say it and the pats on the back they get at parties. I've had those same females tell me I don't deserve a place to live in for having more conservative leanings, though I've lived in and helped families in the very areas they've never been anywhere near. They're all talk. We know it. Want to date one? Then you have to lie.
Well they guy in the pic is a lawyer so if course he's a lier lol. As for why someone would do this maybe they know their position is unpopular with the new generations so they are trying to increase the chances of right swipe through any means necessary
Might he mean liberal in the classical sense like free speech, free markets, free trade? I think that's usually "conservative" by today's standards. I get confused since I'm one of those but I seem to be "conservative" or maybe "libertarian" or "classic liberal" by American standards. I am pro-family though (but atheist).
For example, to me low-taxes is very liberal. But Americans think of low taxes as "tax cuts for the rich". They call supply-side economics which I think is very liberal as "trickle-down right-wing economics". So I am very confused about the terms nowadays. I don't know what to call myself now. I still think I'm liberal like very small government, zero to no welfare, very free and unregulated markets, free speech, free trade, no tariffs, open borders unless there is welfare (then definitely close the hell out of them), pro-guns, etc.
Besides guys lying, the terminology can be tricky.
Are each of the following ideas liberal or conservative?
1. I do not care what consenting adults choose to do with each other. 2. I think there is far too regulation. 3. I dislike abortion, but would never agree with government having the authority to invade any woman's life to check to see if she had one.
To preface, I've only ever seen this in comedy sketches. I'm sure with 8 billion people on the planet it technically happens but I'd imagine it is exceptionally rare.
But to answer your question, I'd imagine it's nearly always to sleep with the girl.
And I don't think conservative people 'should' only be with conservative people, but I do agree that a relationship, even if more or less just sexual, should be rounded on authenticity. Deception is rarely justified.
Some will lie just to get in your pants (bit surprise). Other times you may disagree on what it means to be "liberal". The definition has changed a lot over the years.
I agree. But then I never hide my political / social views. (though they can take a while to explain because I believe in a mix of things from both liberal and conservative ideologies)
I think at its most basic, men will rise to the standards women set. Liberal women on average are more likely to have no strings sex, and so men are going to capitalize on getting easy sex no matter what their personal politics are.
It's really a simple matter of economics: conservative women value and respect themselves more, and expect more from a man in return for sex, where liberal women, again on average, tend not to lately. When it is time to make an investment in a woman as a long term partner, put a ring on it, buy a home and have her be the biggest influence on his children, a conservative woman is the winning bet. Prior yo that point, most young men, on average, are more than happy to use their part yo help liberal women ride the cock carousel through their 20's and 'liberate' her from her youth, beauty, self-worth, self-respect, dignity, and emotional stability, until she realizes that liberal sexuality is a losing proposition.
You can still be liberal and have those preferences.. Or do you mean leftist. Because leftists aren't liberals. Classical liberals like my self have more in common with conservatives than we do with modern leftists.
Yes there are more discreet ways to say it, I just don't see how not being discreet makes him unable to be a liberal. I know for a fact that left leaning people were gloating over a lesbian woman losing her job because she dared to like a right leaning tweet or follow someone on Twitter. Rude people can be anywere on the political spectrum.
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I can't imagine anyone thinking that being a liberal is an attractive quality. Maybe if you're talking about a classic liberal or libertarian, but moderns liberals are insane.
I did see the judgmental part and think he is a asshole but I wouldn't say that makes him not Liberal u can get pricks on both sides of the political spectrum
Yes I agree with you. He shouldn't be pretending to be something he is not.
Lies just lead to more lies. He shouldn't pretend just to get sex. Me I can't have sex with someone I don't have feelings for. But I guess a lot of guys don't know about emotional connections.
