U. S. 2024 Presidential Elections, would you vote for a Democrat or a Republican?

[Usher55]

Four years after a historically large number of candidates ran for president, the field for the 2024 campaign is getting crowded once more, even as it is headlined by the same two aging men who faced off in 2020: President Biden and former President Donald J. Trump.

A dozen Republicans have already entered the race, and additional candidates may still join them — creating a fractured field that could prevent voters who oppose Mr. Trump from coalescing around a single alternative, just as it did in 2016.

On the Democratic side, Mr. Biden has drawn only a couple of long-shot challengers.

Democrat (Mention below)

Republican (Mention below)

[goaded]

Since the question is "would you", I can vote A. You might like to include a "See results" option in the future.

RFK is a terrible person with a well-known name. The Republican candidates are waiting for Trump to be lawfully convicted so that they can cry "weaponised Biden DoJ" to try to gain his voters. West has picked the wrong year to try a third party; without instant runoff voting, he's going to increase Trump's chance of winning, which would be a disaster. (Where are the Green Party candidates?)

[goaded]

Oh, West is one, of many:

Adam Hollick Green Party
Anita Belle Green Party
Cornel West Green Party
Jackie Tate Green Party
Mason Vicent Cysewski Green Party
Randy Toler Green Party
Robert Cooke IV Green Party
Tyler Gray Green Party

[Agagagagaga]

Thankfully douchelanders aren’t allowed to vote.

[strateguy632]

about runoff i agree with you

[goaded]

@strateguy632 It would add nuance, and reduce the chances of extreme candidates getting in. It also sends a message to whoever is elected what the electorate really want, which usually isn't someone who says "I got 50.1%, I have a mandate to ignore the opposition!". (Although that would still be better than "I got 46.1%, I have a mandate to ignore the opposition!".)

[nolabels]

What makes RFK Jr. a terrible person?
I've listened to some recent interviews with him that have made much sense to me.
He sounds to me to be a Democrat of the time when Democrats were sensible people, 60 years or so ago.
I know nothing of him other than the few recent interviews I've seen of him.
Enlighten me if you would as to your negative view of him.

[goaded]

@nolabels His anti-vaccination stance should be enough. The fact that he allowed himself to be encouraged by Steve Bannon to run for president doesn't help. If he can't tell that he's being used, how could he be a good president?

www.politico.com/.../
" RFK Jr. Is Our Brother and Uncle. He’s Tragically Wrong About Vaccines.

We love Robert F. Kennedy Jr., but he is part of a misinformation campaign that’s having heartbreaking—and deadly—consequences.

By KATHLEEN KENNEDY TOWNSEND, JOSEPH P. KENNEDY II and MAEVE KENNEDY MCKEAN

May 08, 2019

Kathleen Kennedy Townsend is the former lieutenant governor of Maryland and the former chair of the Global Virus Network.

Joseph P. Kennedy II, a former member of Congress from Massachusetts, is the chairman and president of Citizens Energy Corporation.

Maeve Kennedy McKean is the executive director of Georgetown University’s Global Health Initiatives."
(Check the date: 2019, before Covid.)

[nolabels]

The linked article told me nothing other than some people saying that he is anti-vaccine.
There are no facts of relevance to be found there.
I'd like to hear what he has to say about the subject.

[goaded]

@nolabels His own family members. They said he was right on the environment, wrong on vaccines. I note you don't say anything about Steve Bannon encouraging him to run; do you think Bannon is trying to help the Democratic party or Donald Trump (who will probably pardon him again)?

[nolabels]

I'm not a very political guy except for my having recently discovered Vivek Ramaswamy, whom I greatly support.

Again, since I haven't heard RFK Jr. himself speak on the subject of vaccines, I can't comment.
Nonspecific hearsay by family members tells me next to nothing.

I didn't comment on Steve Bannon because I know nothing of him. I vaguely recall hearing the name in the past. That's it.

I live somewhat under a rock.

[goaded]

@nolabels You do have Wikipedia and search engines, though, don't you?

For example, I see Mr. Ramaswamy is against taking environmental issues, social issues and governance issues into account when deciding which companies to invest in. Took about a minute.

[nolabels]

I ran across Ramaswamy purely by chance on YouTube, where I spend a great deal of time.
He's all over YT.

Everything he says makes complete sense for the entire country to me.
Not the right, not the left.
The whole country.
Everyone, although some may not be able to see that his leadership is what is needed to prevent us from sinking.

His bumper stickers are on my truck, and his signs are in my yard. My donations automatically go to him, $1 at a time, twice a day, every day.

I'd say that you're finding what you're looking for in order to tear people down.
You've once again presented generalized non-specific issues to which I cannot speak.
Also, like I told you earlier, I'm not really a political guy, but I know that our country is fucked unless we get a true leader in the presidency.
I see Ramaswamy as that leader.

https://youtu.be/a5gwJ382dIw

[goaded]

@nolabels "Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his organization Children's Health Defense are fans and promoters of James Corbett, a Sandy Hook and 9/11 conspiracy theorist who has claimed that “Hitler was a Rothschild” and “Hitler and the Nazis were one hundred percent completely and utterly set up … by the international banking community and the international crony capitalists.” " www.mediamatters.org/.../robert-f-kennedy-jr-and-his-group-are-fans-fringe-streamer-who-claimed

[goaded]

@nolabels Vivek, American born to two immigrants: "I don't think someone, just because they are born in this country, even a sixth generation American, should automatically enjoy all the privileges of citizenship until they have earned it. One of the things I've said is every high school student who graduates from high school should have to pass the same civics test that every immigrant has to pass to become a citizen of this country."

So every child born in America should be stateless? Are you sure you like this guy?

[Anonymous]

Today I would not vote for a Democrat candidate. The Democrat party is too fucked up right now, and no matter who the candidate was they would toe the fucked up Democrat party line, and we can't afford another four years of that shit.

I have voted for neither a Republican nor a Democrat candidate in both of the last two elections, and I hope I don't have to do that again next year. Bet I'll wait to see who the nominee is before deciding.

I really, really hope Trump is taken off the table by his legal problems because we also can't afford four more years of the toxic influence he has on America. But he was not all bad. He set up a SCOTUS that has done great things recently, so I have to give him credit for that.

[Whatthefluff]

Probably none of the above. I am hoping to see a couple more democrats announce their campaign, but I think they know Biden will be re-elected.

[strateguy632]

i predict harris will take over soon due to biden old age or passing away.

[Whatthefluff]

It’s possible

[chicken_nugget24]

I can't vote in the US elections. But wow, I didn't realise there were so many republican candidates!

[Usher55]

No? They wouldn't stand a chance next to Trump really. His fan-base is overwhelming.

[NamerOfStars]

There usually are; the party running against the incumbent usually starts with a LOT of candidates. I would guess more than you'd get with no incumbent, but I haven't checked.

[BarryLiverstone]

There are at least 100 democrats running in 2024

[strateguy632]

this is the step where several varied policies are offered. the one who the primary voters want will advance.

[goaded]

@strateguy632 You're funny! Or were you talking about the Democrats?

Who the hell tells such outragious lies like "There are at least 100 democrats running in 2024"? It's just so stupid, worthy of Trump or Santos.

[goaded]

However, it seems it's not totally crazy; of 484 candidates for President in 2024, there are about 90 Democrats (and 128 Republicans), but most of them have zero money. It seems anyone can sign up as a candidate.
https://www.fec.gov/data/elections/president/2024/

[MysticDevice]

I'll vote Libertarian and break the endless cycle of bullshit. Americans need to realize that neither party actually cares for your welbeing. Its a ponzi scheme to line their pockets with out tax money and all kinds of icky, immoral, illegal shiznit.

"Take the guns first and worry about Due Process later" -Donald Trump

"If you don't know whether or not to vote for me, then you ain't black." -Joe Biden

[andreasderjuengere]

As an outsider I don't quite see the major difference between the two major parties.

Why not build a second white house and let them rule their subjects as a team?

[Usher55]

Because then they'd most likely have to divide up the country. North/South Korea/Sudan.

[strateguy632]

wait !! even within rnc have various directions. each differs from policy of others different priorities from nuclear power to foreign relations. i read the unifier and main characteristics of rnc is "manage with least possible interference to citizens" but other issues have various options.

[Snakeyes7]

@andreasderjuengere In the government, there barely is any difference. I have heard that republicans are just democrats going the speed limit.

There are a few republicans there who stand out though.

[andreasderjuengere]

@Snakeyes7 yepp. And: isn't that a pity how the vision of a better ''democracy'' is being undermined by the power interests of some ''party''?

[strateguy632]

i like that nikki haley ended the x flag in her place. her activities until now were beneficial. i hate that news websites companies emphasize all the wrong reasons, including beat trump, but her policy is great, the best women for the job.

[richardcory]

I really don't like any of the likely candidates. its going to be a question of "least terrible". with a likely Biden vs Trump or deSantis, I'll hold my nose and vote for Biden, but only because the alternatives are worse

[Anonymous]

What a joke. Democrats won’t even let there be a debate among them and have already said that Biden will be the primary candidate.

So much for their “democracy.” Sure. You can run for President—but we won’t debate you, or give you air time, and we’ll damn sure not allow you to be our primary candidate over Biden.

[goaded]

Can you show me the primary debates Trump did before 2020? Or Bush before 2004?

[AviatorTom]

I vote for a candidate, not a party, and I don't know who the 2024 candidates are yet, so put me in the undecided category for now.

[Dargil]

Trump, DeSantis or Ramaswamy against anyone, Republican.
RFK against some of those infill or RINO republicans, Kennedy.

You left Ramaswamy out although he has announced. Racist?

[exitseven]

Make America Great Again.

[Mansearching]

Is the third party the Independent? If not, I probably won't vote. No one I support is running. Can't vote for someone who I don't support.

[Anonymous]

The choice is obvious.

[Usher55]

👍👍

[strateguy632]

haha those are just names look at actions : biden did many wrong policies and in REALITY the inflation is unspeakably awful. worse than tricky names on law bills... but hey you wanna pay 30 dollars for a pound of sliced cheese? vote for the teleprompter.

[AnnaSorokin]

Must support Trump because he will keep our country free of illegal intruders

[QuietRunner]

100% agree

[normalice]

Biden is rocking it, honestly. Wish he wasn't so old but meh..

[nolabels]

I'm rooting for Vivek Ramaswamy, and I'm betting that he's going to win.

[DizzyDesii]

Someone in a third party as usual but i haven't looked at the third party candidates yet

[gothbxtch]

democrat, biden :)

it will be my first time voting.

[Jerre]

I will vote for Trump. He will clean up everything that Biden has screwed up.

[AnnaSorokin]

This is the most correct choice, and all leftist conspiracies will be crushed

[Jerre]

@AnnaSorokin Thank You!

[Jerre]

@Usher55 Thank you for the Like

[Meropatrick]

I am not American so I can't vote but i like trump and i think his time as a president was peaceful

[genericname85]

honestly i don't care as long as it's not gonna be sleepy joe again. this guy belongs in a retirement home.

[msc545]

Almost any Democrat other than Kennedy, the Qanon guy.

[Snakeyes7]

I am really liking what Ramaswamy is planning.