In my opinion it's without a doubt... men. While the female inmate population is increasing, women still only represent less than 10% of the total population. I have a hard time believing these men were thinking "logically" when they committed their crime. Newsflash my dudes but they were likely acting out of anger. Yes guys anger is a emotion. One the stronger ones at that. Sorry Fresh and Fit.
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400 votes and only 3 likes... wow. anyways above are a list of emotions and no one sex demonstrates one significantly more except men. Can someone please explain why men fight more? Or are they logically fighting? Furrealz
I think when people say women are emotional they mean the emotions that aren't useful. Men are notorious for anger but anger tends to get stuff done - there is the question of whether or not the thing ought to be done (and often the answer is no), but there is no question about it getting done. Sexual desire is another one men get a lot of, at least when young, and it does propagate the species. Fear is less useful and as such it is something men are generally unwilling to admit to unless they can cast a decision made in fear as smart. Like cops who "fear for their life" when a black kid is holding a cell phone. We all know they didn't actually fear for their life but they know if they say anything else they go to jail, so it's smart to say it and thus none of the people who would ordinarily make fun of someone for being so scared would do so.
Of course, these emotions are only useful in a physical society where might is right. In a civilized society empathy and curiosity tend to be the most useful. Men do experience curiosity somewhat easily but it is true empathy comes less naturally to us.
Men only fight more, physically. Women are always at each others' throats socially. It's just that physical violence is easier to notice than "social violence" (ostracization, derision, spite, rumors, etc..)
Oh, meant to add just as men weaponize their anger in a fairly direct sense, women tend to weaponize their empathy - they first appear to be a good listener you can open up to and express your insecurities to, or better imply them so they can put themselves in your shoes and work out what those insecurities are. There isnusually genuine concern for then in the moment, but the second there is any reason to get mean, women will poke at those insecurities with precision. It is, I suspect, something that helps our species immensely that the genders each have a territory they can't really compete with each other in. Men dominate the physical world, which women don't care much about and women dominate the social world, which men don't care much about.
I fully agreed with what you said in principle about men who look at emotions that are useful. Anger can motivate you. Fear however can be the first emotion that leads to anger. But you fear unchecked is extremely self sabotaging (although it can make you think twice about making stupid decisions).
@blueonblack22 indeed, "useful" is the wrong word, as its definition is subjective. I probably should have said "effective" or even "motivating" emotions. Things that get you moving with zero guarantee that it is in the right direction.
Also, in general the only difference between fear and anger tends to be how big the thing is.
So for the emotions felt that are not useful, or even overwhelming, is this more likely to cause a man to shut down, dissociate those "foreign " emotions as they are not the common and useful ones listed? Or especially so when more than one emotions is felt? Easier to just squash them and focus on useful ones? Females feel everything. All the time, all at once. Lol
@Shimmyshammy pretty much. But again, "useful" was the wrong word. I think I should have said "energizing" emotions - there is never a guarantee that a person will use their energy usefully. But ceetianly when men are inundated with non-energizing emotions we tend to just want to be rid of them as soon as possible. We are lazy creatures but know there are things we need to get done, so we wait for our brain to give us an emotional kick to the ass to get us moving. And we prefer to spend that time waiting with as much peace and serenity as possible, and unpleasant emotions that don't serve as a kick to the ass waste all that valuable procrastination time.
So, on the basis if a female being "too emotional " would cause an overload with a male trying to deal.
So does this explain how men react with hurt and anger one minutes and then completely emotionless, rigid, another? Trying to do away with the mixture of unwanted emotions?
@Shimmyshammy men can’t expect to “be special” JUST for existing compared to women. We have to do something that makes us valuable to people. That’s why when people get upset we tend to give advice to resolve the issue vs. just hear them out. We too look advice to resolve problems when we are upset vs. just “dumping it out”.
But there are times when we truly do feel powerless and hopeless. We HATE feeling powerless. But it does happen occasionally. But we don’t know how to react to that negative emotion without losing face and respect. That’s why we either A) hole up or B) get angry. Just “crying about it” and feeling worthless about is a death knell to our entire reputation and existence.
@Shimmyshammy no problem. Tbh I’m quite shocked that many women don’t get this very well. Most men are taught that they have to interact with women differently and be understanding and “tolerant” when women get emotional/upset. More tolerant than how we would react to other men.
Not to say all men heed that advice. But there is an expectation placed on men that they have to be patient. But I don’t see that expectation being set on woman to the same extent. The expectation to understand men better.
@blueonblack22 perhaps but you have to understand that on the other side, women are super frustrated and crushed when men "shut down" and become emotionless immediately after being hurt and angry. Women express (non stop, we know lol) whereas it can be like pulling teeth for men. It's just the crazy world we live in trying to coexist.
As for the patience. ... funny as I always feel I have to be overly abundantly patient for the guy to come around once he's gone into the weird detached silent robot mode. I hope you realize how much that can really destroy a woman.
@Shimmyshammy I was one of those guys who wore my heart on my sleeve growing up. When I got into dating I would “express” how I felt.
This got my crushed when I was younger man. Woman saw me as relatable as if I was another woman. Not a romantically viable young man. I even had one young woman dump once and flat out say “you’re too sensitive” when she was leaving me for someone else. Yeah I was sensitive but nowhere near what she was often like. But still it was too much for her “judgment”.
It’s not just men who are pushing this so called “toxic” masculinity to repress emotions on each other. It’s Freudian pressure. Most women want a man who is emotionally stable. Men who express their emotions (besides anger) is unattractive unless it’s expressed at the exact right time. That in itself is emotional repression. So again this is why men hole up and/or only show anger. Its about romantic viability and respect.
@Shimmyshammy I know. But remember talk is cheap. A guy will often hear that women like this and women like that. Then when he takes that “advice” for face value and gets screwed over more then once for it he’s going to get bitter. He will also look around and see how successful guys are behaving and will model them. He will stop listening to women.
But there are exceptions to the rule. But most guys aren’t wiling to get burned 3, 4, 5+ times until they “meet” the exception. If they are lucky they will meet her early but unfortunately that’s not how it usually works.
@Shimmyshammy this is also the reason guys like Andrew Tate have gotten extremely popular.
Just FYI I am NOT a Andrew Tate fan nor do I approve of his lifestyle. But when young men get burned doing what women “say” they want they get disillusioned. This has happened to A LOT of young western men. So unfortunately they are turning to bad (sometimes horrible) advice. But what they did earlier does NOT work for them nor is it making them happy (e. g. expressing their emotions). There are real consequences when women mislead men by saying they want one thing when they REALLY want something else.
@Shimmyshammy I neglected this conversation for a bit but I'll say men tend to get burned out by emotions that are too complex. When presented with a problem our animal brain prefers solutions that involve just kind of smashing our way through any barriers. Figuring out wise solutions frustrates us because the sort of emotions that motivate attention to detail are necessarily calming rather than energizing.
@blueonblack22 women, also, can not expect to "be sepcial" just for existing. This is common misinformation among the red pill people. This narrative comes fron the fact that in general people like to look at women. For men, who mostly don't get looked at, this sounds like a good thing but it is worth absolutely nothing. It's like if you won the lottery but then instantly your entire lawn was full of so many beggars you couldn't leave the house or call anyone. It is not the effect of winning the lottery that you had imagined, but it is the one that was inevitable.
Women get no special favors for being looked at. That myth comes entirely from the speculations of guys who look at women they can't have and resent them for it.
I wouldn’t even exist if my mother wasn’t born beautiful. She’s neurotic, borderline sociopathic, very complacent (worked the same job her ENTIRE life), very unsociable, very distrusting, has no wealth (neither inherited or earned), very selfish, etc.
Yet my dad did EVERYthing for her despite suffering literal criminal abuse (if the roles were reversed he would be in jail). He literally worshiped the ground she walks on despite all her disrespect and abuse.
She never had to take risks or make difficult decisions. Yet she still thinks she “the victim” most of the time. Almost never have I heard her apologize for anything. Including besting me when I was a 4 year old kid.
If my mother was born a man even a very handsome man no women in the world would of have tolerated her. No sense of humor. Only displays self control when she wants something. No risk taking or sticking her neck out.
Now you can say “oh your an incel because you got mommy issues” or some other crap. Well I guess you can say I have “mommy issues”. But I’ve see this bullshit behavior over and over and over again from other women. Amber Herd would be a perfect example.
A western woman who was born attractive already has a huge head start. Sure she’s gotten some special challenges (aggressive stalkers, other jealous women, people assuming she’s stupid, etc). But the benefits she has are insane especially if she knows how to use (or abuse) them.
She is among the most privileged people on earth and yet feels like a “victim” when it’s convenient.
@blueonblack22 that has to do with your mother being a narcissist, not your mother being a woman. Indeed, it could be argued that our culture pushes beautiful women into becoming narcissists, if they survive the gauntlet of sexual assaults, because they are told being attractive is a winning lottery ticket and they are stupid if they can't figure out how to marry into money if they are sexy, and stupider still if they waste any time developing a life skill besides being hot.
But in any case it is the same as someone waving a water gun around versus a loaded revolver. Women, especially beautiful women, are notorious for being physically weak. The physical threat of a narcissistic woman is basically nonexistent compared to a narcissistic man. Her "privilege" stems from an assumed lack of real power, and when her beauty expires she will be disregarded as the husk her beauty adhered to - this is not the same as the privilege of the powerful. She can maybe put on a show in some cases possibly set back reputations in the short term, but none of it would ever hold up in court if it came to that.
You are making a very false comparison that “emotional” people are more likely to commit more crimes. Violent psychopaths don’t feel any emotion and yet are extremely dangerous and often criminal.
But as for female criminals. The justice system has been notoriously soft on women compared to men for most of human history. Women long benefited from the societal assumption that they are unable to intentionally cause real harm to people. If a woman did commit a violent crime it was because something or someone drove her “to do it”.
The justice system is slowly catching up on this. For a long time women got much more lenient sentences for the exact same crime a man would commit (if they even got charged to begin with).
It’s funny how feminists conveniently overlooked this bullshit for so long in all of their “gender equality” arguments. Never a peep from them about this. You never saw a feminist holding up a sign saying “I want equal jail time” during a woman’s rights march.
And its the craziest thing too because if a man ever had sex with an underage female student, everyone’s up in arms. But when its a woman having sex with an underage boy (which has made the news probably a dozen times in the last few years). Nobody even seems to give a shit. And I’ve heard many women even make jokes about it and say things like “well he probably enjoyed it” or “he’s probably bragging to all his friends how he f*cked his teacher”.
@WhiteBoyChill they are finally getting tougher on women on this. But for a long time it flew under the radar.
Remember Ed Furlong from the original Terminator 2? He was in a full on sexual relationship with a 29 year old woman when he was 13. It was completely open too. Blatant.
There were no statutory rape laws in California for adult women sleeping with underage boys until 1994. Feminism long dominated that state but it’s funny how they let that one slip.
Everybody would like to believe that a young teen boy getting his sexual fantasies gratified from an adult woman is harmless or something. But Ed Furlong got REALLY screwed up after all. Severe depression, drugs, etc.
Also I think if the justice system and society was equally harsh on women we would see an even much higher incarceration rate for women.
It won’t ever be 50/50. It is true that men are generally more aggressive and violent. It’s due to testosterone, repressed emotions (actually the exact opposite of what this airhead asker assumed) and societal pressure to man up yet being unable to make it via legitimate means. However there are plenty of criminal women out there who just get a slap on the wrist if even that.
@WhiteBoyChill I’ve never heard any woman condoning pedophilia. Only men who think it’s some trophy for a child to have sex with an adult woman. It’s a common joke amongst men, not women. And the justice system was created by the patriarchy and is mostly run by the patriarchy so it’s men to blame if light sentences are given.
@May1787 and again give me an example of a prominent “feminist” who brought up f*cking gender sentencing disparities. Again I really dare a feminist to hold up a sign saying “I want equal jail time for women” at the next women’s rights rally.
I also notice when that gets brought up they quickly mix in racial sentencing disparities to get the attention of it being a gender issue. Feminists always dance around it and try to discussing societal double standards that women have long enjoyed.
Also about the whole “pedo” issue. How often are women assumed to be pedos around children and teenagers in society? Men are often assumed to be like that even when they are being Good Samaritan’s
Men are assumed because the statistics show that’s generally who perpetrated those crimes, but sure, try to argue with actual evidence. A news article isn’t evidence. And yes, women should have equal jail time for equal crimes. I didn’t say they shouldn’t.
@May1787 “ And yes, women should have equal jail time for equal crimes. I didn’t say they shouldnt”.
Alright thank you. But back to your pedo label on men. I have seen two women on GAG openly admitted to perpetrating that disgusting crap. One said she did something to a 9 year old boy when she was his 14 year old babysitter. Another 35 year old woman admitted she give her best friends 16 year old son a BJ. She was complaining that her friend found out and “beat her up”. As if she didn’t have it coming and she was a victim I all of this. I’m not making that up.
Never in my life have I seen a man admit that. Not to say there are guys out there who are guilty of that crap. There definitely are. But they know people would want to rip their head off even if they even joked about that.
But why is it these two female examples felt so at ease openly admitting that on GAG? Huh? Ah maybe female pedos are more likely to go unreported and their bs flies under the radar. Just maybe given they are women they are assumed to be harmless and trustworthy right?
I will agree that men are generally more violent both physically and sexually. It’s the ugly side of testosterone levels and innately biological aggressive nature.
But if there was way to report the omniscient truth I bet a million bucks the discrepancy is much more narrow than what “the statistics” show. Namely because women tend to get away with this crap much more often than women do. Women definitely are much less likely to get arrested and charged for inflicting domestic violence on their male partners.
Naw, it’s because anyone can make anything up on the internet and this website is rife with it. Even if it was true, I’ve seen men admit to wild things like that here and elsewhere as well. Idiots are going to be idiots.
@WhiteBoyChill did I say women can’t be pedos? My point was to take the internet with a grain of salt. Anybody can be whoever they want to be on the internet.
@May1787 Except if there are actually women who have been convicted for sex with underage boys, who are we to say everything we see on the internet must be a lie?
I don’t think having sex with minors is the kind of thing people lie about. Women only say it here because the internet protects peopld through anonymous status
@May1787 things are changing on this but the change has been slow. Also again look at the Edward Furlong (he was the young John Connor in T2) example. There were statutory rape laws on the books for adult men sleeping with female minors well before 1994. But adult women could get away with this scott free until the law finally changed in 1994.
Feminist activists in California in the 60s and 70s made all sorts of legal changes to protect women. That’s fine. But notice that whenever the “patriarchal system” benefits women then feminists get tight lipped about it. They usually the ones protesting and fighting for change. However if the existing system benefits them they don’t have the temerity to bring it up. They rather ignore it and act like it’s no big deal. Get the best of both worlds. Have your cake and eat it too.
That is NOT equality. No. That’s wanting superiority not equality. And again why would women “make up” those two examples I talked about. Trolls do say stupid things but that is something nobody is going to find entertaining. So it was most likely true. But why is it they felt comfortable openly admitting something like that?
Also for the record most men (including me) want is fair for both genders. But when we see women still demanding to enjoy long time double standards and feminists just ignoring it we get pissed.
The reason the laws weren’t the same for women is because there weren’t women doing that to the same frequency as men. And men believed, and still many do today, that it’s some sort of amazing thing if a teen boy has sex with an adult woman. That’s part of the reason the laws were slow to change. Should there be complete equality in the laws, sure. But that’s not women’s fault.
@WhiteBoyChill yes, yes it is. The number of men who cheer on teen boys for having sex with adult women is frequent. Some women love attention. “Pick me’s” as they’re called, and so they lie to get the attention.
Again my issue is how feminists are sometimes presented societal privileges and double standards that benefit women. You keep citing “statistics”. But the statistics are FLAWED because many women who engage in criminal behavior including pedophilia were not being reported, arrested and charged in the first place. Also again this is changing recently but it’s coming slow. Also I admit that if everything was brought to light the statistical gap between men and women would be narrow.
Yes men are more prone to violence both physically and sexually. But I am sick of using that generalization to give guilty women “a pass”. A way to side step that.
Feminists believe that admitting fault means admitting defeat. Like admitting the woman is sometimes wrong will hurt their mission to call out “patriarchy”. Like all wrongs are one way. There not. Women have enjoyed certain privileges/double standards over men. Dismissing that fact doesn’t make it go away.
A perfect example is how feminists conveniently get quiet when a proven false rape accusation happens. If they were really about “gender equality” they would be furious at women who do this. But they’re not. Even worse some of them still try to justify this bullshit. There are feminists who are still sticking up for Amber Heard.
When a man is proven to be a scumbag the vast majority of men (including men’s rights activists) have no problem calling him out. He makes the rest of us look bad. We hate that. But I don’t see feminists calling out POS women.
@WhiteBoyChill that’s hardly true. I much more often here women condemning women who are pediphiles while men are the ones patting the boy on the back 🙄 or being like “I wish it was me” horrible
@tiajoka Again, this is about how women are mostly radio silent when it comes to equality the other way around. Clearly you haven’t followed the conversation very well
@WhiteBoyChill that’s not true 🤷♀️ I agree they complain less than when they do when it comes to men praying on girls but they still complain far more than men. Not to mention no doubt at least one reason they don’t speak on it as much is because men are faaaar more likely to be pedophiles and so I’m comparison the issue isn’t as common.
I’ve maybe twice argued with women about that you shouldn’t prey on kids. When it comes to men it’s almost a daily occurrence. Ask any woman and most the time she’ll say it’s just as disgusting when a woman is a pedophile hell my mom finds it even more disgusting for a woman to be lol cuz she expects more from them.
@tiajoka you seriously argue “daily” with men why it’s bad to be pedo? I’m guessing you might be labeling adult men pedos who find 19 year old girls attractive or something.
If that’s the case then those guys aren’t “pedos”. Vert different debate there.
@tiajoka Unless you can find me some form of data, I’m not sure I’m willing to just accept that assertion at face value.
Its more so that men get punished and caught for pedophilia more often because society (including women) have more tolerance when its women praying on young boys. Very little do I ever hear feminists talking about how older women need to stop praying on young boys. But I’ll here from them all the time about how a guy that so much as glances at a girl in the gym for a brief moment is to be considered an invasive pedophile.
@tiajoka well, you’re deflecting from the conversation then. In my comment the first thing I deliberately mentioned was hypocrisy among women, not men’s beliefs and opinions on the subject matter. Stop trying to deflect.
@tiajoka as whiteboychill said. On top of that please give me an example of where a guy openly states that it’s okay with a grown man to sleep with a 14 year old girl. For real.
Also if you look back earlier in my convo I stated two real life incidents where two women on GAG openly admitted to this crap. Not joking. Not hypothetical talk. Not trolling. They both flat out admitted they are guilty of this bullshit and acted like it wasn’t a big deal. One had the nerve to think she was “a victim” because her best friend beat her up for giving her 16 year old son a BJ. On top of that she claimed the 16 year old PAID her for it. In the USA too. Very serious crime.
I told her she should be HAPPY her friend kicked her ass. If a man did that he would be get the living shit kicked out of him and he is lucky to survive he would spend years in prison.
Women, because biologically we have more estrogen. Specially during / right before/ our period…. We can be highly emotional. At least in my experience.
If something goes wrong or someone does something against me. I get so butthurt. I’ll even remember bad experiences and I’ll start crying because of it. 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
If I’m not on my period, then I’m literally like a guy 😑😑😑. Unbothered. Insensitive. Carefree. Nothing gets to me. But that’s also maybe cause I suffer from PCOS which causes higher testosterone than the average woman. Who knows. I just know I’m more tomboy in my attitude, personality and behavior. I can’t stand childish or girly shT. I can’t stand it. It makes me feel weak, pathetic, and like someone will step all over me.
AND WHY THE F-K DID YOU USE FRESH&FIT THOSE TWO UNDESIRABLE COWARDS AS AN EXAMPLE OF MEN. THOSE TWO ARE COMPLETELY MISOGYNISTIC AND UNAPPEALING UNATTRACTIVE. 🤮🤮🤮🤮 AND WHERE EXPOSED FOR BEING GAY!! YES THEYRE HOMOSEXUALS. AND THEY SUCK EACHOTHERS D🍆 COULDNT YOU USE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OF A MAN?
Definitely MEN! They aren't able to control their emotions that well. Also testosterone will give a person anger/rage so I don't blame them for their emotional outbursts. I just wish they'd work on finding coping skills to control their emotions. If you notice most women aren't out there punching holes in walls/physically fighting/screaming like men. I could easily say one thing and it'll set off a man to have a emotional outburst but takes a lot more to set off a woman because we've learned to control it.
@Snakeyes7 lol okay then men better stop using testosterone as a excuse for why they are so violent and horny cause those are both emotions that they are always blaming it on😂 Really tho more testosterone is linked to depression so makes someone more emotional by default
Yeah I get it. This is what the normies are told is the cause of this stuff and even I thought from the very beginning it was a load of crap.
Although I don't think the depression part is true either, if it was then I don't think feeling depressed would be a symptom of PMS, where I assume the estrogen hormone is acting in full force.
@WhiteBoyChill nah men are unfortunately out there doing that type of stuff for basically no reason to. Women usually have reasons for being angry. DV stats are almost never accurate since many people don't speak up
@WhiteBoyChill depending on the relationship it seems reasonable to be mad about that. Men will go off and try to start new relationships being a good guy when they weren't good to the previous girlfriend. Happens all the time
Ironically enough you argue most of the time using your feelings here. ''That is a appropriate time to be emotional'' Ofcourse, that's what you would probably always say just everytime you get emotional over something men dont.
And i could share anecdotes like what you keep doing. Course if women get emotional due to their hormones or periods, theyd be like ''i wish men know what mood swings feels like, theyll never understand or this and that'' but men dont even try to wish for women to know what the male hormones or having low testosterone feels like and be dramatic about it.
@Aiko_E_Lara I already know what male hormones feel like. Literally just went through that after having a baby all female hormones drop and left me with only testosterone. It sucks so bad but sure never gotta wonder what that feels like. Men tho can never experience the opposite tho...
Also men can definitely have moments where it's appropriate to be emotional but they don't take advantage of it and bottle up those emotions. Prob reasons for random outbursts like I'm talking about
most women lack the physical capability to punch holes through walls or physical fight anything that isn't a weaker human much less fight a stronger human or a wild animal
and men punching holes through walls or fighting doesn't happen very often
bringing up certain topics like body count or abortion or the discrepancies of the MeToo movement will invoke a lot of outrage from women
@Apple1996 You sound as though you either grew up with bad male role models or got involved in relationships with psychologically instable men. In either case you must realize that most men are not tantrum ridden punch monkeys. The ones who are are the exception not the rule.
@DarkLegacy more like the opposite. I'm pretty observant but I'm mostly around men so could be the reason why I feel that men are more emotional. Just see to much from y'all
@ DarkLegacy Yes women cry more often than men but that is due to their higher levels of sociability and interpersonal skills. They simply are more advanced in these traits than men are. To say that what they get "emotional about" is pointless goes to show that you do not think of women complexly.
if women did have higher emotional intelligence than men than they would understand men and not try to shame them for preferring younger women, for preferring lower body counts, for preferring femininity in their partners but nah there has to be negative connotations to such
@inhua lower body counts and femininity are fine. Don't agree with the younger thing tho especially when it comes from older men. Often times older men are just trying to use younger women for other reasons then real love. If they have real love tho then I'm all for it but very rare
using women for other reasons than real love is not age-related. any man of any age can do it. Zyzz died a young man and was well-known for using women for sex
You claim you know what it feels like and yet you dont wanna wonder what it feels like. That's contradictory and in fact, you still have never been in a man's body so you can't accuratley know what it feels like. Also, you dont know when's appropriate or not for men to show their feelings because youve never faced any male stigma. Women on the other hand have more appropriate time to show their feelings making some entitled to it.
Yourself have to claimed that women have higher EQ than men which basically contradicts your notion saying men are more emotional. But the problem is you're only looking at ''emotional'' as if only about whining, crying, angry, and be entitled about it instead of looking at those who are actually HSP which just means someone who is sensitive to others and can sense feelings making then actually emotional that isn't the stereotypical one you're thinking about.
We do backup the right time and you don't know when is our ''right time'' Men who cries similarly to women just seem like were exaggerating to anyone because of how we appear and how we sound which is exactly why you may assume men are more emotional. We appear and sound to look like someone who can handle emotions which is why when we break down, it's a mismatch and society is not wired to normally see man crying
@Apple1996 I am not a psychologist but I am pretty sure that kind of logic only applies in cartoons.
The "men don't cry" thing is often a very crude description of stoicism where you control your emotions before they control you. It's not saying that it is wrong to have emotions but there are bad times to be emotional.
There you go with your anecdotes again. Aren't you wondering why men being emotional isn't really "normal" to anyone else? That's right it's because they're just weren't. And men showing emotions just comes off as a surprise.
The issue is men have to bottle up all those emotions which is very very unhealthy. Think of men’s emotions as a 2 L of Coca-Cola. Now imagine every emotion a man has shakes up that Coca-Cola bottle just a little bit more. Men are forced to keep the cap on as tight as they can for as long as they can. That is the rule they are expected to play. Of course, they are also expected that if the pressure builds up too much in the caps about to fly off in the bottles about to explode that they go far away from everyone else include them self somewhere where they can’t cause any damage let it all out and then come back after the explosion, while also leaving no evidence the explosion ever happened. That is how men are expected to make their lives
Of course we also can’t forget that women are expected to show off their emotions. If a woman gets angry or sad, she’s expected to express all those emotions.
If you need an example of just how true this is, here’s some homework for you. Try to figure out how many men you have seen cry and it wasn’t a scene from a movie or a play or a TV show or something else like that I mean an actual event, where you actually saw a man cry. And then compare that with how many times you’ve seen women cry out in public, like where other people aside from their friends can see it. The only times I’ve ever seen men cry was when someone died or they got cheated on.
I feel you may have misrepresented anger here. Anger isn't considered an emotion in the same sense as say happiness is. Ager is what is referred to as a secondary emotion, and in somr cases, a substitute emotion. It is an emotion response to a triggering imput, most typically pain, be jt emotional or physical. It is linked with the fight or flight instinct, which as we know is a defense instinct to protect ourself, either by fighting for survival or fleeing to escape harm. In regards to what you are saying, yes its most likely true that men are convicted of more violent crimes than women, bjt have you ever stopped to wonder why? Could it be that men don't report assaults from women, maybe through fear of ridicule or being unbelieved about it? Maybe its because the assualt from women is more emotional/psychological/verbal assaults? There are many reasons for it, assumptions aren't reasons though, nor is guessing and making prejudiced and baseless accusations against a gender as a whole.
Yes everyone feels emotions, they express them very differently so often we are comparing apples to oranges. As for more men incarcerated, it isn't that more men do crime (that is simply unknown) it is that men are more likely to be stopped by law enforcement, if stopped are more likely to be questioned, if questioned are more likely to be arrested, if arrested are more likely to be charged, if charged are more likely to be convicted, and if convicted are more likely to be incarcerated. It's benevolent sexism, well documented and explains the bias.
Therefore to use this bias as an argument for psychological behavior is sending a false flag. I'm not saying your premise is incorrect, there are studies that do suggest that men are more emotional than women, don't get me wrong. But I am worried about your non-sequiter, it sends a bad message.
The depth of emotions Some men feel are much higher than women. I feel when men commit they do commit from the heart. When they face pain it cuts deeper within them. The capacity of stress men can stand is higher but so the emotions. When it comes to crimes i think that women commit more violence but passive aggressive ones. Ones that its difficult to be prosecuted for. Women fear consequences and rarely u will find a woman who is willing to put herself in danger for Anyone. She tried to cause damage while safe like what Amber Heard did to Johnny Depp. She ruined his life with an article. Thats why less women are in jail because their style of violence is different than men
Most women would make some damn fine poker players. When it comes to possibly losing a good man or appearing as if she is willing to let him go, women are just killing themselves on the inside but can put on the best poker face EVER.
That poker face of theirs will make a man fold because when a man fucks up, and senses he will lose a good woman, he will quickly lose his shit.
And if he were to walk away, once he is out of eyesight and/or no longer within earshot, that is when a woman will lose HER shit.
Like the old commercial used to tell women, “Never let them see you sweat”.
Maybe I might need to jar the memory of some of you older ladies, “Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman”.
The term "emotional" carries a "cry baby" perception, in which case most would think women.
But I've worked with back stabbing men who are prone to shouting, defaming, and violent outbursts when someone challenges them. Its as if many "men" are just loud but whiny boys who have to discredit others to boost themselves. All it does is show a complete lack of confidence and low self esteem.
If being emotional means losing control of oneself and inability to rationalize or compromise, id argue men are equally if not more emotional than women.
I’d say woman, I’ve spoken to both men and woman throughout my life, and women have always been a nightmare.
Women beg and plead or do nasty horrible things to get back at you, men just move on.
“Take for example me and my ex”
I’ve moved on from her yet she can’t leave me alone constantly stalking me and harassing me I just ignore her as she’s pathetic, she wanted to burn my house down and get me beaten up, she was the one that caused the break down of the relationship as she’s a narcissist and suspected pedophile.
Men hide how they feel a lot as people think they’re weak and pathetic if they open up that’s why so many men kill themselves, women talk to each other and don’t get labeled as weak or pathetic.
Selecting violence and frustration over losing a game seems a bit selective, just like a guy selecting "crying" as his evidence that women are more emotional would be cherry-picking. Studies suggest that women overall are more expressive, but otherwise there is little difference:
Most of them are in prison because of a long history of poor choices they've made that have led them to a certain lifestyle. Rarely because they acted rashly out of anger on a one time whim. See if you weren't so emotional and a bit more logical, you would know that
Normally women. But men are also emotional esspecially the red pill men are super hormonal or as they like to say "passionate"😂
More men are in prison than women and one of the main reason is due to anger which is more prone in people with more testosterone aka men.
But overall women are more emotional cause of pms, menstruation and pregnancy etc. Men function more logically and women emotionally. Both can be good though:).
@thot_stomper yes but not only those 5 days. Women overall view life more emotionally than men. Men tend to be more logical. An example is when women face a problem they usually want to rant and get emotional support while men tend to come with a solution to the problem because men are natural fixers. This can cause conflict. But men tend to feel more anger than women which is one of the main reasons there are more men in prison.. which is also an emotion. This is only on average tho:)
@thot_stomper Also it sounds like your confusing emotion with being emotional. Anger is an emotion that stems from a myriad of circumstances, no different than frustration, sadness, etc. Being emotional means an individual is making a decision based on these emotions, which is a female trait.
I think women are biologically far more emotional.
But I think men are nearly equally emotional because of the way our society is. Because of what feminists call "patriarchy."
Men are emotional because the patriarchy is a hierarchical system.
Men at the top benefit, while men below the top 1% are convinced of their inferiority and apparent deservedness of loneliness.
So I think it's very plausible for men to be very emotional. The way society is set up makes us know that our value as human beings depends upon whether a woman wants to fuck us or not.
Women are emotional because that's how they naturally are.
Men are emotional in response to our lack of status in the patriarchy.
It's almost always women. Most men's mental "default" settings are "relax" or "fun". Meanwhile, most women's metal "default" settings are "Why are you doing nothing?" or "Why are you wasting your energy on that?" This is the primary reason why men have a shorter life span. 👍
Okay I'm going to go stand in the corner now in shame and think about what I've done. 😂
From a lifetime of emotional attack, emotional neglect, and emotional manipulation from women instead of emotional support from women, and lack of proper father figures.
So basic human emotions start with 4 to 7 (not 27), and then they branch on from there.
Logically of course, I'm not surprised that a woman would believe that there are more basic human emotions then studies have actually shown. So emotional...
I had to choose "women" because there was no BOTH. But I think men and women are equally emotional, but men are taught to HIDE their emotions so they don't appear vulnerable to OTHER MEN, who will see them as weak, and try to bully or take advantage of them.
Women more frequently, men moreso in magnitude, hence your "murder in a fit" example. We take longer to get there. Pick 100 men and 100 women, have each of them be told by a loved one "you look fat"... see which side hits emotional reactions more frequently. Once we get there we go full force though. Look at origin stories.
@thot_stomper Women typically get called "fat bitch" by other women. A man calling another man a bitch is the worse thing you can call him because you're basically calling him a women.
@thot_stomper Yea, and it was a good post. As we discovered most people understand that woman are more emotional. I've always know this, I think the question we should be asking is why.
You're regarding a single emotion that, yes, men likely experience more, and using it to suggest men are more emotional. That's not really reasonable. Men are also more aggressive, more risk-takers (on average). There's a lot of reasons as to why men are more likely to commit crimes. One of which is actually a LACK of emotion, that emotion being compassion.
What you're saying would be like me pointing only to who cries more and saying "this sole emotion determines who is more emotional" which is just silly.
But if you look at nearly all the emotions other than anger, it's not men who experience them more (again, on average). And this isn't a bad thing. It's honestly one of the major reasons as to why I really love women. They're wonderful. re-state://background_color_rgba (0, 0, 0, 0), font_color_rgb (77, 77, 77), justifyLeft
No... fear, jealousy, lust, and especially anger account for most violent crimes with aggravated assault being the most used. The only people who throw punches non emotionally. are professionals fighters
Where are you getting that data from? I'd imagine burglary, car jacking, theft (all of which I'd imagine is way less common than assault, rape, murder) are not due to fear, jealousy, lust, or anger. Perhaps greed. But certainly none of the aforementioned.
Also, you're referencing only crime (and a subsection of crime, at that) despite crime being only a very small fraction of daily occurrences. 99% of people go throughout their day feeling emotions and never commit a crime. So if you point to the emotions being had of the 1% (likely way less than 1%) and say "see, look at all that emotion" are you really accurately representing the whole of emotional experiences?
There is ZERO doubt that women are far more emotional , the video game at 2am is hardly an example , the soppy movie , family issues , time of the life span , time of the month , hormones and much much more makes women far more emotional though their entire lives.
Males fighting , physically fighting is due to testosterone and over consumption of alcohol basically , they have been trained to take on the Alpha male ( I appreciate that is stupid practise ) , but thats not emotion , women are manipulators in general , they seek advantage via other means emotion ( crying ) , pleading , trying to make others feel poorly , thats emotion. Women would be x 10 emotional relative to me , its survival for females , its their form of reaction ----This is in answer to the question update.
While men are quicker to anger, mens actual thought process is more based in logic, which allows for a more nuanced view. Women tend to be more present, which makes them more relatable, but also more prone to ignore the possible consequences of their actions. It’s where the gendered stereotype of men being better leaders came from.
These days men have been conditioned to think more feminine, often due to being raised by single mothers and the overwhelming majority of childcare and school teachers being women and the line has been blurred.
You are drawing your conclusion from the prison population which is a very small subset of mostly men. Not all prisoners are there because of emotional reasons. The violent offenders who are there are overwhelmingly men raised by single mothers who failed to keep their emotions in check and lashed out. Men in general are more aggressive than women.
He didn't claim otherwise. And you also didn't refute his point. I don't mean to he rude but in a way, it seems you're, ironically, operating on emotion. It seems like you might feel insecure over the notion that women tend to be more emotional and when faced with a counterpoint, you respond with irrationality.
Like, the very thing you responded with was already a point he refutes in his comment. And you didn't even address it. Why?
(Now, let me be clear. I'm not suggesting women are incapable of logic or rationality, nearly all of them are, can, and do. But this particular instance doesn't seem to be that)
OK, fine. It's hard to reply to 100 idiots directly, but since it means so much to you.. here. He's blaming the male prison population on single mothers which is retarded and the fact that the prisoners represent small portion of the population is a moot point. It means nothing to my argument. It's like saying gang violence is a small amount compared to other acts of violence. It means nothing. And no shit not all prisoners are there for emotionally induced violence. I never said they were cause that's not my point
How is it a moot point? If you are saying "men are emotional and my support for this notion is violent men in prison" when violent men in prison represents a small portion of priosners, AND prisoners represent a VERY small portion of men, then you are attempting to say that a very, very small portion of men represent men as a whole.
That would be like me saying women have weak biology, as represented by women who have polycystic ovary syndrome (which nearly all women don't have).
I would say women are more emotional though are less stoic than they say they are. Since anger, aggression and frustration are also emotional reactions. I also don´t think that women are less than 10% of the population. It may seem like it but I doubt that´s the really the case.
I actually meant that men are less stoic than they say they are. I would say that women are more emotional but not in a way that they can´t be logic or rational. I´ve just seen woman be more open with their emotions while guys try to hide them and seem to erupt sometimes without a reason.
Fresh and Fit is that podcast where they interrupt each other every 5 seconds. You think those clowns represent men? Alex Jones is a right wing conspiracy theories
They don't represent me. The fresh and fit guys are fake as hell. They take pictures with escorts and pretend they get laid so they can sell their dating courses to desperate men. They pay prostitutes to take pictures with them and pretend they get women. They probably pay prostitutes to come on their show and talk nonsense.
Richard Reeves is a better example for men. Andrew Tate and The fresh and fit guys are just misogynist boys who exploit men not act as an example for them.
Richard Reeves said "if there are real problems in a society, and responsible people don't acknowledge and address them, irresponsible people will exploit them..." he's someone that is actually a good leader for men and boys and doesn't exploit.
Richard doesn't blame women or say misogynistic nonsense like fresh and fit. He actually comes up with real solutions men and boys struggling. Fresh and fit are the problem.
I think women are more emotional in the sense of more likely to cry over something willingly will like a toilet paper commercial showing a father and son, but men are more likely to be emotional in the violent sense. Such as being rejected and hurting or killing a woman.
Everyone is emotional, man or women but I think there's a disparity where it's allowed to expressed for men. I think there's more space and acceptance for women to regulate their emotions so when men do it might be recognized as an outburst (excluding the bpd and bipolar population) and for people looking to push a narrative will suggest one sex is more emotional than the other. This also ignores factors like childhood socialization which is a huge factor.
My favorite part of this post is the picture of the lady who is as wrinkled as a old leather couch. My statement does not reflect my opinions on the question asked. Rather it's an admission of admiration of your ability to find such antique examples of leather working.
That's not an argument that can be made. Not when you take this into account:
Women have all sorts of avenues and privileges to show their emotions, and it's socially acceptable for them to express said emotions outwardly.
For men, it's the opposite. If he does that, he's shunned and looked down upon for showing his emotions, and doesn't have the same avenues and privileges that women do on this topic.
When I was growing up I seen my sister's cry a lot over stupid stuff. As I got older and got married I noticed my wife would cry over the silliest things especially when her hormones were out of whack during pregnancy. I see my daughters were having issues with emotions growing up through puberty. I see the same out of whack emotions with my granddaughters. They're always emotional crying over the stupidest things seen.
I think it's like this. Men are just as "emotional" as women but their emotions are more steady and they tend to keep them to themselves more. And they tend to have more of certain emotions than women have and less of other emotions. Women are all over the place with their emotions. And they can't keep them to themselves. Clearly the monthly cycle hormones play a big role in why their emotions are far more unstable than men's.
Men lol. Look around at who is doing the school shootings, church shootings, killing ex girlfriends and women out of rejection, raping , murdering, robbing and bashing women on podcast. Check the statistics men are committing majority to all of these crimes. Who created slavery lol a man, who created wars and military , men, who runs this chaotic world? Men lol 😆
A matriarchal society wouldn't work because women make their decisions based upon emotions when it comes to decision making men are quick and decisive, most of the time women can't even decide where they want to eat imagine the president was a women the US would look very different maybe in a good way but i doubt it
Just like you're making your comment out of emotion 🤣. Oh is that why you guys rob, kill, steal, rap, blow up grocery stores and shoot up schools and churches? Great self control and quick decision making skills
War wasn't "created". Cavemen fought each other over cavemen stuff. War is an organised version of that and a military is just a more efficient way of doing it.
As for who runs this caothic world... Former german chancellor angela alllowed millions of migrants into Europe resulting in a huge spike in the crimes you mentiond above. Former scottish PM nicola sturgeon almost turned scotland into a nazi state. I could go on but its safe to say women have a hand in the creation of this chaos.
Usually if a woman does shit like that it does not get talked about and thats why you tend to see shit like this. It is true that a big part of the vile stuff is caused by men but not all of it…
I voted for women. I'm not sure going the route of only people in prison is a logical one, but I do believe those individuals were probably angry when many of their crimes were committed. However, in a general picture of the world, women are usually seen as the more emotional of the two. It's a combination of nurture and nature. Or perhaps men are just as emotional, but don't show it as outwardly as women do.
I think emotionality depends on genetics, not gender so personality, like temperament. While women are better at emotional management unlike men that just learn to supress their emotions and mostly only allow themselves to feel anger
I don't think it's learn. Even at young ages girls can demonstrate a wider range of emotions more than boys, and there have been studies to show that women brains are more Wired to worry. We're as men don't over think things. It's not learned behavior it's biology
@chris_987 I have read male chidren show same emotionality as female children do. u can also see here on gag plenty of men overthinking which is evident in their questions
Nope. Its not suppression, its control. And its not that we are not allowed to feel only anger. Feeling if fine, acting on it is not and is a sign of weakness
Most men are in prison because of a woman in some form or fashion. Love is a socially acceptable form of. Insanity. Love will make a man crazy, stupid, crazy and stupid.
I believe some stereotypical characteristics about men and women are completely backwards. For instance. Girls are more loving and guys are more sexual. I find this to be completely backwards. On emotions thought it would have to be more defined.
Men start wars with their emotions. I don’t know one woman who has. Men’s emotions lead to danger and death. Women’s emotions just lead to a good cry. Huge difference.
Men also build society with logic and logic counters emotional. you're only looking at one part of the story. And imagine a world with no war. Youd think its heaven but in reality, if war never happened, there would be no society, no point of views, no developments and no humanity because we'd all just be living under a rock if everyone is agreeable and not fight for food. We'd be eaten by predators and natural calameties.
Like saying causing war with emotions is basically an emotional claim ironically. Youve never thought about it logically if you think thats the only cause of war.
@Aiko_E_Lara of course men will defend themselves even though the answer is obvious. Men are also the main perpetrators of violence due to their emotion. I’m sure you’ll have an inane argument for that one too. 😏
Saying ''its obvious'' doesn't exacly make you truthful. I can just say it's obvious that you dont know what you're talking about. Just like how you didn't realize you're only looking at one side of the story here.
Id rather speak facts that to sugarcoat everything. ''Ofcourse men will defend themselves'' and youve not been defending yourself? You're acting like defending your stance is not a natural thing to do lol. Like what do you want us to do? Say nothing while you continue having a freedom of speech?
@Aiko_E_Lara me stating facts make me emotional and yet you getting butthurt is proof men aren’t emotional? 😂😂😂 This argument is definitely not going to go anywhere. Good luck with your woman-hating.
And P. S. I like men. I just also understand and agree with statistics.
No. Wars start with an objectively set goal in mind. Conquest of territory, resources, defeat of an opposing ideology/religion.
Queen boudica started a war againts the romans because she wanted revange. can't blame her thou. Id be pissed too if my father was killed and my daughters raped...
Still women. You cry over movies, broken nails, flip out over bugs, and I've seen women get bent out of shape over small inconveniences.
Why men fight more?
Testosterone, assertion of dominance, last resort of settling an argument and even just for fun.
Not sure why you think fighting has logic, other than fighting being the logical conclusion of a heated argument that has come to an unresovable inpass.
Men and women are equally emotional. The difference is the manner in which they express them outwardly. The sexes have been taught to only express specific feelings outwardly and suppress the others for fear of judgement from society.
Hormones do annoying things to emotional states and women's hormones cycle/change way more then guys', otherwise I'm not sure that there's actually a huge difference the isn't learned from society
Being emotional doesn't mean the expression should be the same way. We guys have that capacity to control our emotions but that doesn't mean we're not emotional.
If we are not emotional we wouldn't get involved with girl, get married, and have families.
Women. Just because men commit more violent crimes than women doesn't mean women aren't more emotional. The men that do shit like that dont have their emotions in check and let it take over. Men need to learn to be more logical and focused. Men should never be emotional or show emotion. When women do this, its natural as being emotional is part of female nature naturally. But in the grand scheme men are less emotional because men aren't designed to be emotional
I think they are almost equally emotional , difference is in the thing over which they get emotional.. which the other gender may find not so emotional/funny
Ok lady look at me. Imagine you got a balloon right? That's the man, and you fill it with air and shit right? The air has nowhere to go, no place to vent out, so the balloon gets filled with more and more and more air and it gets bigger and bigger until eventually... pop.
That's how men's emotions are we have a bad habit of bottling shit up untill it becomes too much.
Nope. And the reason being is the testosterone. The fact men get so bent out of shape and are actually reacting is proof enough. Logically speaking. :P
Thts not true at all 😂 ur trying to make it seem like them defending their argument is them being emotional. Men can have conversations without it going there mostly women who say spiteful things and catch attitudes and things all because they dint like the way u said something even if what j said is the god honest truth
Tht is my exact point what are u even tlking about. I could tell a women “the sky is fucking blue bitch” she would be worried about the way tht i said it and might try to refute it solely on tht basis ur emotions get in the way of ur “logical thinking”
Men are because we bottle up all of our emotions, which is unhealthy. However this is in general and I have seen men and women on both sides being extremely emotional And then woman and men who aren't.
Expressing emotion is primarily a feminine trait so if you put a random man and woman next to each other, my answer would be whoever exerts the most feminine energy. On paper, it should be the woman but not always.
Bro I love this, I used have a roommate like that he’d full on throw his controller as hard as he could!! He’d sleep all day and then scream at his TV all night.
Why is it different if i say women are more emotional while you are saying men are more emotional? You can't even answer how you end up with that conclusion.
Lol at you and the 44% of women saying it is men, it is women that support all the woke snowflake nonsense and actually think that animals come before humans or are equal to us.
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There are more men in prision because men are more violent and more risk tollerant than women, and because the legal system is much less tollerant of men who break the law than women who do.
Depends on the individual. I've met some super catatonicly emotional guys, and I've met some girls that don't seem to feel anytbing at all and vice versa. I don't think this should be a gendered question.
That's amusing. The reason we get so angry losing at video games is because it's the only time we are allowed to express emotions. When we are by ourselves playing video games.
Every other time we have to keep our emotions in check.
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