Will you be willing to answer these questions to vacation in Europe? Do you think these are reasonable?

[KostasKouvalis]

I don't understand why the EU cares about my education.

And how stupid of them to implement this for the Olympics.

Also, they said on the news they will be asking your income and medical history.

Yeah, this is no problem for me

Guess I'm going somewhere else

[Avicenna]

Interestingly, if you are from the Middle East, Central/South Asia, or Africa and enter Europe illegally, they don't care about any of this stuff, including your identity (the illegals know to destroy any identity papers before they enter the EU).

[KostasKouvalis]

Exactly! They should be monitoring Africans and Arabs, not Westerners!

[Avicenna]

Westerners get profiled on trains there.

[demonics]

Their countr (ies) y their rules.

Income is usually a way for them to judge your ability to take care of yourself in their country. Like a point system, "this person is more likely to engage in criminal behavior based on these criteria..."

It becomes pointless when that system isn't applied equally though. YOU? Nah you don't speak the language well enough. African migrant with literally nothing? Right this way sir.

[KostasKouvalis]

When was the last time you heard of an American staying illegally in Europe or bombing something?
If anything, I'll just apply through France. They're usually super lenient as they love tourists.

[demonics]

Seeing as how Europe actually enforces their immigration laws, its probably rare for an American to "slip by." The only people with the necessary skills to blow up stuff are feds and people who live in small towns (call back to a previous post) and largely have no interest in visiting Europe in the first place.

[KostasKouvalis]

"Enforces their immigration laws" LMAO

[Anonymous]

It's their government, if you don't like it, stay out. You have no right to go there just because you want to.

[WhitneySnow]

Those seem reasonable, except for maybe the income one

[Nick1976G]

I don't get why any of this is important. If I have the proper documentation to travel to another country, why do you need to know these personal details. It's not like I'm moving there and trying to buy property... it's a simple vacation!

[KostasKouvalis]

Exactly. I think it's really because they've had so many people immigrate, especially during the Cold War, they want to know where they are and what they're up to

[slatyb]

You don't have any more right to visit Europe than all those people at the US southern border have to enter the US.

[Avicenna]

Uh, you do know that US citizens can visit them without a visa, right? That can't be said about illegal invaders at the border.

[slatyb]

@Avicenna It's up to them to grant that privilege or not.

[Avicenna]

It's been granted by law there. Big difference between that and the illegal invaders being illegally waved in.

[slatyb]

@Avicenna By law? I doubt it's been enacted into law. It's more likely just a policy that can be changed at any time.

[KostasKouvalis]

My whole family was born there. It's my motherland. I have EVERY right! A lot more right then those bandits pouring over our southern borders.

[Avicenna]

Sure about that, slatyb? You do know these things are negotiated between countries and are reciprocal, right?

[slatyb]

@Avicenna Yes, I do. They are negotiated between countries and can change at any time. So no, you don't have a right; some countries have agreed to admit citizens of some other countries without a visa. Those policies can change at any time. Canada closed their borders for Covid.

[slatyb]

Kostas, You may indeed have a right to return, or an ability to gain citizenship based on your ancestry. That depends on the country. But your ancestors left. You don't have EVERY right. They left.

[KostasKouvalis]

Fuck off I am a human being! You don't tell me where I have a right to go and not go. I'm not some fucking terrorist. Fuck off idiot!

[Avicenna]

That meant you couldn't enter, not that there was a visa requirement put in place.
Whether there is a visa requirement or not has to have a legal basis. And someone could still be refused entry with or without a visa requirement, but it's not analogous to illegally bringing in people to the US that US law specifically prohibits entry to.

[Dargil]

I'll stay home or go elsewhere.

[HippieVeganJewslim]

As I’ve an EU passport, no problem!

[KostasKouvalis]

It's people like YOU they should be monitoring

[HippieVeganJewslim]

Why me?

[KostasKouvalis]

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[HippieVeganJewslim]

I understand not.