Americans, would you ever move to Europe?

[Barbra13]

[DeeDeeDeVour]

My husband & I considered buying homes in Portugal, Spain and the Netherlands but I was warned of a potential gentrification trend that we might trigger.

We got the hint and we'll honor the request to respect their communities.

All the doesn't discourage us from visiting as often as we'd to vacation there.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

All that* doesn't discourage us from visiting as often as we'd like* to vacation there.

[Barbra13]

Well in some countries they dont really like foreigners... But from what i heard thats not the case in netherland and many other countries

[Gospeedracer]

@DeeDeeDeVour that's fair enough but I don't want a browning of white countries and I'm not alone, should my views be respected as well? All white countries seem to be viewed as fair game.

[msc545]

A "browning"? Seriously? So when is the next Klan meeting in your area?

[Gospeedracer]

@msc545 Browning is the word that I've heard POC use when celebrating what they are doing to white countries. You have already lost an argument to me and resorted to removing my last post and preventing me from reposting in an attempt to save face. you aren't worthy of my time.

[msc545]

@Gospeedracer Keep whining, racist.

[Gospeedracer]

@msc545 Your Whining because we both know you can't handle being wrong. haven't you got a lost argument to delete somewhere.

[msc545]

@Gospeedracer you are rather pathetic. I will delete your crap whenever and wherever I feel like it, little bitch.

[Gospeedracer]

@msc545 The fact that you feel the need to delete arguments you loose says everything that people need to know about you. I have too much self respect to resort to such things. you couldn't hold an argument debating with a 5 year old without crying is what's pathetic lol.

[msc545]

@Gospeedracer Please be sure to respond again here quickly.

[Gospeedracer]

@msc545 ?

[sawno]

I can only answer it in the reverse, there are circumstances where i'd move to the US since I fit in with the culture there. For example if my next girlfriend is American or if I land a really promising career there. But right now with how tense the situation is there i'd probably wait a bit to double check where the country goes.

[WhiteSteve]

Possibly. I’m super picky about food though, and I don’t like most European cuisine, so that would be tough on me. Maybe Italy would work…. but I’d get fat on all the pasta😂

But I’ve just about had my fill of Americans, lmao, so I’d be open to it.

[Alli112]

Bout to if this country gets any crazier 😭. it's probably crazy over there too, but at least it's crazy with pretty castles and fun food. (Need me some more proper italian gelato right about now)

[OlderAndWiser]

I would not be eager to move after living in the same city for 69 years.

[MicahRaine]

Yes, I would love to move to Europe (for a few years).

Why would move there: Europe is beautiful! I would love to go see Europe, make friends, pick up new slang, etc. Plus, I can track my family tree right back to nobility, so I would love to go see some of the lands and mansions they had.

Why I wouldn't want to stay: As much as Europe intrigues me, I'm American. While I'm sure I would miss it after moving away, it will never be my home.

[lightbulb27]

yes, we discovered we have some illnsesses in USA that go away in Europe. Your food supply is likely less poisoned. Thank you, keep up the good work to keep USA pollution out.

I'd consider it as additional place to life, not the only one.

[abc3643]

Yes although, outside of the UK or Ireland, I'd have to learn the language. I am decent at that, so I don't think that would be too much of a problem. I have difficulty translating native speakers at their natural speed, but I can pick up written languages rather well.

[AviatorTom]

I've thought about it. I did live a few months in London several years ago, for a business project. It wouldn't be London though if I were to move. Some possibilities are Scotland, Sweden or Norway. I've visited each of them and had a great time there.

More likely, I'll just stay here in the good old US of A.

[RebelinSteel]

We have a few Americans living around here, as we have USAF bases close by and they enjoy the English countryside etc. Some have moved here and work locally.

[DryGermanGuy]

Maybe ask again, if Trümpf wins the election and his Project 2025 ghouls start tearing the country apart.

[Skyros]

Absolutely, probably Paris or another French town with many English speakers lol. I thought about London, but they have a no guns law. Don’t want to get stabbed coming home from work. I just hate that there’s so much unrest in France and most of Europe really.

[normalice]

As I understand it it's hard to own property there and I am hostile to the idea of renting. But apart from that, assuming I spoke the language, sure.

[Barbra13]

I've never heard about any problem with owning a property to be honest

[normalice]

Well, the difficulty is that it's pretty much all bought up already.

Again, as I understand it..

[Barbra13]

Well yeah in some areas its true, but i think thats the same in US

[normalice]

Hm. A fair point. I suppose would if there was a job opportunity then.

[msc545]

It's not that it's all bought up in the US, but instead it's that it is all far too expensive for almost everyone. Even people with really good jobs have difficulty buying property and maintaining it.

[normalice]

The US has a lot of undeveloped area because we are still somewhat new. The bottleneck is the house builders not the land itself. But Europe has been removed from a tribal society for much longer so its overall population density is more or less at capacity, which makes the land the thing to purchase not the structures. In the US you can get a blank acre of land for like a hundred dollars if you don't mind it being in the middle of nowhere. In Europe at this point it seems there would be no such thing as the middle of nowhere.

[msc545]

Okay, there are two problems with this. The first problem is that a lot of that allegedly undeveloped land is in the middle of a desert where nobody wants to or actually can live. There is no water. There is excessive heat and there are no utilities and there won't be you need built for a very long time if ever. Nobody wants to buy into this no matter how cheap the land is.

The second problem is that the cost of land isn't really the problem. The problem is the cost of actually building the house. The cost of materials and the cost of Labor is excessive and that drives up the price significantly. Additionally, the cost of financing is absolutely horrible with about a 7 to 8% your interest rate on home loans right now. Maybe more in some areas. There's actually a third problem and that is the cost of homeowners insurance which is mandatory. If you're going to finance anything. Those costs have been going up with a lot of homeowners insurance companies simply canceling policies because they feel like the risk is too high. This is direct ly related to climate change which has resulted in many more fires and floods than usual.

[Levin]

I would love an American girlfriend. But the two of us would have to carefully consider which country is the bigger shitshow at the moment. I think they're trying to outdo each other.

[Account]

I think that decision is like taking an elevator in hell. Moving from one level of hell to another.

From what I understand, it is the same shit if not worse.

[Miristheiss]

Probably not but I speak German and moving to Germany, Austria or der Schweiz always sounded like an adventure. I wish I could have been an exchange student when I was younger.

[DrPepper12]

CAN'T WAIT TO BE AROUND SANE PEOPLE!!! YES!!! 💯💯💯

[Serkee]

Nah, Europe has all the same problems as the US and more. At least here I won't get a fine or go to jail for complaining about them.

[Lliam]

I would consider moving to the Republic of Ireland. My ancestors are from there. I love Ireland and have vacationed there twice.

[msc545]

I absolutely would and in fact I'm planning on it. I really hate living in the US at this point in time. I also live in a really beautiful area in California, but the national politics are so terrible that it just isn't worth being here anymore

[exitseven]

nope, even if Biden is re-elected i am not moving. I will stay and continue to be part of the resistance.

[worldscolide]

No, I'd never move to any location where freedom of speech is not protected. Literally every country in the EU you can be thrown in prison for offending someone.

[coachTanthony]

Would love to hang out over there for about a year and go somewhere else after that.

[Dongie]

Nit now. I hear it's all ate up with the lefty side. In a time machine the 70s would be great to see England and Germany, Austria and Sweden. See that Faltsküg girl.

[Staximus]

Probably not, unless it was some rural area where I can grow hot pepper plants like Southern Italy or Spain

[dustybiker2]

I don't think many would like the culture shock.

[DryGermanGuy]

Naked boobs instead of drive-by shootings you mean? 🤔😂

[dustybiker2]

Exactly

[In_Trance]

I'm not American but no

[Barbra13]

May i ask why?

[ProbablyClueless]

Not likely. The quality of life doesn't seem all that great, honestly.

[ChicoFromThe305]

I didn't not see myself doing so no, maybe for vacations or something

[captain_voidwalker]

No thanks I like my guns and my free speech to much. Also you drink beer warm like a damaged people lol

[DryGermanGuy]

We have plenty of guns, all the free speech and I have never seen anyone drinking a warm beer.

[captain_voidwalker]

Guess it does depend on which nation you're in, and some are alright. And Germans sure do make good beer 🍺. I can for sure say hell no to England , France, Italy, and Sweeden

[Anonymous]

Fuck no.

Look at the moronic Germans and purple catfish are on this this site.

[ItsaMeMaik]

Sorry ☹️😅😂

[OtterMan68]

If I could afford it, I'd retire right now to Crete, Malta, Sardinia, or the Croatian coast,

[Snakeyes7]

Not for no reason, I don't have that kind of money. Maybe if I got a job somewhere or if I am fleeing I'd do it.

[DexWest]

Currently deployed to Europe. I’d advise against Italy, but I’d retire to Germany if I could

[SkatPak392]

no Europe is just as much of a mess as our own country... I would rather choose Asia.

[shortster]

If one of the countries recognized me as their monarch.

[zombiewoof]

Maybe, if i could afford it, if project 2025 goes into affect

[Sirenboobzilla]

Been thinking of moving to Czechia near my family

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

In a heartbeat, ideally Ireland

[avery58]

If I could, yeah maybe.

[NathanDavis]

would love to rally race all around it...

[Anonymous]

Maybe
I am circumcised so when the ladies see my penis I will be getting bj’s 24/7.
So it is an option.

[BetaBucks]

Only to Turkey, so 3% yes.

[Danny_dan92]

Only if my country becomes a complete shit show

[Nifrayu]

No. I would visit though.

[nawtee_me]

I probably would yes? Ireland or Scotland

[KrakenAttackin]

I would consider Scandinavia.

[KostasKouvalis]

I would

[DishLady]

Probably.

[BTigers96]

No. 😂

[WhitneySnow]

Maybe

[jahaims]

Nope

[Iron_Man]

Nope

[Iron_Man]

I don’t know the laws I would be afraid to put all my house money into a bank account. Overseas I’m not familiar with than one day. It’s totally gone. I just don’t trust it. I could see something like this happen in Nicaragua somewhere or over in Cuba no way I’m taking that chance

[Anonymous]

Nope.