Is living a luxurious life immoral?

[OddBeMe]

It’s a famous ethics equation.
If you have the ability to save a child from drowning and don’t you’re immoral.

Extrapolate that to the world and if you have the ability to save children from famine and don’t…are you? So living luxuriously means you aren’t saving children in poverty.

Personally I don’t think I’m morally responsible for all children in the world. And there’s an economic argument for spending money in a capitalist society.

Well…technically correct

Nah…

Other

[Redstang88]

No. Life is unfair, and too short to try to fix everything

[OddBeMe]

Said every civilization that ever died EVER.

I’m tired. I think you’re right.

[gorydetails]

Only if you see wealth as a pie.

[OddBeMe]

I see it as a finite amount. So a pie would be apropos if not overused.

[gorydetails]

Right. Which is the opposite view from reality.

[OddBeMe]

So you’re saying there’s infinite resources? What reality are you living in?

[gorydetails]

Did I say resources?

[OddBeMe]

What else is wealth? Is it infinite?

[gorydetails]

Of course. did you have people getting wealthy on youtube 30 years ago? Were there people generating income by driving people around in their private automobiles 30 years ago? As long as you commies don't try stifling enterprise, then it will continue to grow and new opportunities will present themselves.

[OddBeMe]

They’re taking it from others, rightfully of course. But they’re getting “paid”. Are you mental?

[OddBeMe]

Everything’s game theory or set theory. Read up on both. Get back to me.

[gorydetails]

How are they taking it from others? WTF is wrong with your brain?

[OddBeMe]

So Amazon gives you free products?

[OddBeMe]

Your paycheck… or unemployment check…takes money from some other purse. It doesn’t magically appear. Even printing money you fcks keep going on about is counted and backed by the Fed.

[gorydetails]

Oh God. Please go take an economics class. My labor is freely exchanged for money due to the agreement I have with my employer. Amazon and I enter a mutually agreed upon exchange as well. Nothing is ‘taken’. No one goes poor because I buy book on Amazon. Quite the opposite. I make people from the driver, to the packager, to the manufacturer money they otherwise wouldn’t have.

[OddBeMe]

Yes idiot but your pay is taken out of a purse. It’s taken from “someone” else, ie the company. Dipshit

[OddBeMe]

Doesn’t mean there’s infinite money.

[gorydetails]

No, my pay is the result of someone else giving my company money in exchange for merchandise. It’s know by non-idiots as free trade.

If money doesn’t increase, then how does GDP increase?

[OddBeMe]

Sigh…it’s a long line of people earning money. I’m not against it. But if I want my lawn cut and pay the kid down the street, I’m out the money dipshit. And because the gdp rises doesn’t mean there’s infinite money. If money were infinite it would inflate like your unused condoms.

Your skulls thickness should be studied.

[gorydetails]

Yes, idiot and now the HOA won’t fine you for having long grass. Your mom should have been a bit more insistent on condom use. You understand that people living in abject poverty is at the lowest level in the history of humanity, right? How do you think that happens if wealth is finite? Magic?

[OddBeMe]

Yes! I’m surprised you acknowledge that fact. And that’s because the rich have never been richer. Please do more homework, darling.

[gorydetails]

I mean I get it, it’s easier for you to sleep at night blaming some rich guy for taking your money than accepting the reality that you suck.

[OddBeMe]

I’m actually not. I’m blaming us for allowing bezos to have a yacht for his yacht.

[OddBeMe]

And the time it’s taking me to teach you basic economics.

[gorydetails]

You don’t want Bezos to have money, quit buying shit you don’t need on Amazon.

[OddBeMe]

I do love Amazon. And you’re still not getting it. Our system should be a balance of consumers doing what’s best for them. Bezos doing what’s best for him. And the government seeing billionaires sucking out the soul of America. And perhaps raise the top tax rate to 90%

Cue Joel: Business would disappear! Or go overseas.

They didn’t in 1950s. And Bezos would still do business in America for his 10% profit even if he has to pay 90% in taxes. Rather than 0% profits.

[gorydetails]

Hey dumbass. In the 50s the majority of the global manufacturing base was decimated in a world war.

[OddBeMe]

How long do you think it takes for countries to start producing. The Marshall plan was quite adept at getting their economies back up.

I do agree the world was different then, so obvi smarter people will dictate tax policy. But we say “No thanks” to 600 billion in taxes from the rich- which they should and could rightly fully pay.

[gorydetails]

Lmao, what % of US taxes are paid by the “1%”?

[OddBeMe]

Not enough. And a lot. See the issue? Poor people can’t pay taxes. So of course the 1% pays 90% of tax dollars. But the amount of that percentage is so fckin small.

[OddBeMe]

This is what I’m talking about. You’re defending billionaires. When you’re on unemployment:

[gorydetails]

From the guy who brought us “everyone stay locked down and order DoorDash”, and “fuck those small businessmen and their freedums”, “let’s print money to pay people not to work” over the past three years.

[OddBeMe]

Thanks for straw-manning those positions to the worst degree. But if a million people die, yes essentially.

[gorydetails]

I accurately portrayed your positions. You don’t give a flying fuck about poor people. Drop the pretense. You’re just jealous someone worked harder than you and succeeded, so you want to confiscate what is theirs.

[OddBeMe]

And you came to that conclusion how? I’m trying to raise the level of poverty as well as get more families away from poverty. Which should be everyone’s goal.

I don’t like poor people. Every time I’ve dealt directly ended horribly. I try to empathize that poor people are more desperate. But either way, economics 101, raise the tide, lift all boats.

[gorydetails]

You should probably give half your salary away.

[OddBeMe]

Again missing the point. It matters what tax law does. Not what one person does.

[gorydetails]

Right, you just want OTHERS to pay for things. Funny how you lefties are all the same.

[OddBeMe]

How did billionaires get their money? Are they paying their fair share?

[gorydetails]

They got their money by creating a product or service that millions of people wanted to use. How did you get your $45k you made last year?

[OddBeMe]

Your pays her gigolos.

[Stoner710]

No it’s not what’s immoral is to live that luxurious life and then to cosplay the communist revolution like what most of Hollywood does. TAX THE RICH while I go to a party that cost 30,000+ dollars and spend 10,000 dollars on a dress and go and hobnob with a bunch of other rich people. Aka the met gala, the G7 summit. etc

[OddBeMe]

Very true! But the trueness of a goal isn’t defined by idiot 1%-ers who like luxury but have heart enough to know we need change.

[Stoner710]

True we need to have a consensus, like when it comes to green energy, solar, and wind or jokes, cannot have a first world economy run on solar wind. You can have a first world economy based on nuclear power making up about 75% of it has sore and when to do about 5% a peace and the rest carbon omissions.

Also, this is for people in New York. We have pizza alone, who cares if you’re using a wood fire pizza oven. There’s a guy literally throwing pizza over the mayors wall because they were trying to basically band his pizza from being made. Look up, give me pizza or give me death.

[Anonymous]

You're thinking from a limited perspective. You're thinking from poverty mindset; from scarcity.

[OddBeMe]

As I said, I don’t necessarily agree with this. But scarcity in resources is what 90% of the population is fighting over…

[BlackJeep]

No. There is going to be suffering whether you help or not.

[Anonymous]

No, this planet's chronically overpopulated so thus anything to thin the herd without actually doing the deed yourself is karmically golden

[jahaims]

Nope

[OddBeMe]

Hey don’t need a life story.