Do you think it is possible to save women from toxic feminism?

[SolitarySolace]

Conservative men, you can save women from toxic feminism. It happened to me - www.msn.com/.../ar-AA1ffpdA?ocid=sapphireappshare

Yes, it is possible

No, feminism is a good thing

[Spongebobssocks]

Yes but not with force. It has to do with pear pressure and low intelligence. In my experience people who follow trends blindly usually have avarage IQ or below. People with high IQ tend to over analyze everything and usually play "devils advocate" to their own beleifs to challenge themselves.

So with that being said. Making someone stop being a feminist you have to remove their emotion out of it. Dont go for anything personal just go by data and make sure to tell them women are needed too. Becuause usually these women feel some sort of resentment towards men and if you show any hate towards women than their hate will grow more.

But with all that being said it's their choice too:)

[Exterminatore]

This is a really good answer.

In your opinion would it be accurate to say that women who are feminists typically are due to lower intelligence combined with emotional reasoning?

[Spongebobssocks]

@Exterminatore thank you

Yes I would. The women I've met that are feminists are even diagnosed with limited intelligence as they have told me themselves.. and one of them i know lack empathy

[Exterminatore]

Interesting. Yet not shocking as I have always felt this to be the case. In regards to the one with lack of empathy, I am not surprised there either as it seems to me many feminists exhibit narcissistic personality traits.

So I guess my next question is if some or even many feminists are of lower intelligence, how can appealing to their intellect help?

For example. You will often hear feminist speak of the wage gap in America. Citing something along the lines that women get paid 70 cents for every dollar a man makes.

I can easily debunk the wage gap. It is illegal for an employer to pay a woman less for being a woman. If you and I say hypothetically got a job at McDonald’s, and are hired for the same position and have the same experience level they CANNOT pay you less for being a woman. This is literally true everywhere in America. Therefore if women make less money than men it must be due to other factors than discrimination.

I have tried explaining this to feminists. They can’t seem to grasp this. Nor can they grasp that women by statistics tend to work less challenging and dangerous jobs than men and that accounts for making less, and that they miss more time due to child bearing.

Yet when I state this, they just keep referring to a bottom line which is the average man makes more than they average women and that it’s not fair while ignoring the factors why this is the case.

To arrive at this conclusion can be for no other cause than emotional reasoning and an inability or unwillingness to simply logically look at the data when it’s provided.

So I guess what I’m asking is if many feminists are of lower intelligence, how can you help them to understand simple facts?

[Spongebobssocks]

@Exterminatore to help them understand simple facts you have to take one step at a time. So what is the wage gap? Let them bring a source that they base it on. Now if they use an accurate source provided by the government the source will be in your favor not hers so you can easily bring that down. And when she provide a source ask her what makes this source trustworthy?

You have to take small steps and remind her that women are still needed cause she is feeling defence all the time like she is being attacked when she isn't.. thats my view in it.

I actually changed a feminist on here that way

[Exterminatore]

That makes a lot of sense. So justifying viewpoints based on feelings rather than facts.

I’ve tied this and failed. I think when I have debate with feminists, where I’m going wrong is just coming with the facts but not emotionally disarming them.

I’m very simple in that I don’t care how I feel about something. Facts are facts, truth is truth. Doesn’t matter how I may feel about those things. So I change my mind based on the evidence. Feelings are not always indicators of truth. Doesn’t matter how I feel about gravity, it exists and I’m subject to it. I can either act on that knowledge prudently or suffer the consequences. I can say I don’t like gravity and am going to jump off this building to fly. The results would of course be disastrous.

In the case of feminists however, they don’t do only unto themselves. What they do harms everyone, men and women alike.

[Spongebobssocks]

@Exterminatore yes and thats good that you base it in facts and not emotions. But to win them over you have to make them less emotinal first and keep telling them women are needed too because otherwise they will never be open to accept reality.

Am glad you are logical! Its needed today🤣😭👍🏻

[Exterminatore]

You really are a smart lady. You surly must have a high IQ. Frankly not only in regards to feminism but a number of other subjects you make by far the most sense of almost any woman I’ve head speak on these subject and more sense than probably 90% or better of men.

Of course you being a Christian (as am I) helps. You’re starting with the right world view, a biblical one, and with the wisdom given us in scripture along with the Holy Spirit guiding you. However is is abundantly clear you are logical and rational and clearly have an high IQ.

Do you know what your IQ score is?

Mine is 134.

As of late I find it so distressing that society is as dumbed down as it is. There is an over abundance of indoctrinated idiots everywhere. In my lifetime I have literally noticed intelligence in the general population dropping.

Intelligence in the general population has now become so low that people believe a man can become a woman, that the world will end in 5 years due to climate change and that weed is a cure all for every malady.

I find it very taxing living in a world full of low IQ moral degenerates. I know that sounds very arrogant, but I can’t help but say it. They’re everywhere. 25 years ago this was not so.

Oh, and if you disagree with me, you’re a racist. Apparently anyone who disagrees with the wide spread degeneracy and utter foolishness is just a racist. That’s all they have to refute anything. Don’t believe a man can become a woman, you’re a racist. Don’t believe in Darwinian evolution, you’re a racist. That is literally the only argument many of these people can come up with to refute any thing. They just call you a racist. They don’t even have the intellect to think beyond that. That speaks of stunningly low intelligence.

[Exterminatore]

I’m glad you too are logical. Logic and reason has been replaced by over emotionality and complete moral decay. I am so glad when I find others who can not only understand, but can articulate themselves well.

Please don’t ever change this about you.

[Spongebobssocks]

@Exterminatore thank you for the compliments!

I'm not sure what my IQ is I haven't proffesionally tested it. You are clearly very intelligent too! Problaby more than me:)

I agree with you 100%. The avarage IQ today is like 20 points lower than what it was 15 years ago. Today people are driven by their emotions above logic.. hense why a 6'4 biological man can compete against biological women🤣😭

When it comes to Christianity I'm very new to it and still learning so hopefully I will grow and learn more into it:)

Most people today live without morals.. The world is an episode of Family Guy😅

Am very glad you are logical too and I hope you won't change either.. I won't! Thanks again for the compliments😌👍🏻🙃

[Exterminatore]

You’re welcome miss. Those compliments are well earned.

As for the Bible and Christianity, if you have any questions PM me. I tutor a few people on here in Christianity privately. I’m always happy to help and can discuss the subject endlessly.

[Exterminatore]

And thank you for your compliments also.

[Spongebobssocks]

@Exterminatore alright cool thank you!

[Exterminatore]

You bet!

Soli Deo Gloria! (Latin - to God alone be the glory)

[Spongebobssocks]

@Exterminatore that's beautiful!

[Exterminatore]

I love Latin. I’m currently learning to read, speak and write it now. Though admittedly I find Latin grammar to be a challenge.

Though I’m not Catholic, but once was. Latin is still semi alive in Catholicism and is still the official language of the Vatican.

Now I’m just a non denominational Christian with my theology closely in agreement with a reformed Baptist or perhaps Presbyterian.

[Spongebobssocks]

@Exterminatore oh intressting. You clearly know a lot about the subject.

How come you aren't Catholic anymore?

[Exterminatore]

There are a number of doctrinal issues I have with Catholicism where I don’t feel it matches up squarely with what the Bible says.

Most importantly their dealings with the child sex cases. Many of these priests they just simply transferred instead of directly turning over to the authorities.

I simply can’t imagine Jesus saying: “help them avoid justice and the consequences of the evil they committed.”

This I see as a major wrong on the part of the leadership in the Catholic Church.

[Spongebobssocks]

@Exterminatore wow yes I agree with you! Thats sick 😣

[Spongebobssocks]

Thank you AI😌

[Agape93]

Absolutely. I get sick and tired of seeing some dipshits espousing hate against men just because they are men.

If we can drag them back to ACTUAL feminism, one that simply wants full equality, we would all be better off.

[inhua]

if she don't want to be saved, she won't want to be saved

feminism is a good thing because it exposes female nature in ways traditionalism and religion has been keeping hidden for centuries

these promiscuous feminists out here be acting like barbaric cavemen jumping from dick to dick to dick, physically assaulting men when they feel like it with the added bonus of being coddled, pandered to and playing victim should she choose

[ProbablyClueless]

It's possible with gentle, loving dialogue. A lot of those women are acting from a place of fear and never having had a single positive relationship with a masculine influence in their lives.

[RavVid]

This woman had already started to question.

Your results might vary. I doubt it is worth the effort to try to convert.

[AngryCarl2]

No, and no. Women have to save themselves. And taking away their "reproductive rights" (the right to abortions) isn't going to help either.

[sirderpsalot123]

No, people are going to do and believe what they want.

[butterly248]

I think everyone can be saved from toxicity, especially those who like Andrew Tate!

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

If you aren't going to save anyone from anything.

People are going to do what they want to do especially as adults.

[Exterminatore]

It is possible but unlikely.

[Snakeyes7]

It's difficult but it can be done.

[OddBeMe]

At least you admit conservative men are the issue.