When will other presidents and politicians get get arrested, get a mugshot and get indict? why is it only happening to donald trump?

[WilliamPamer446]

bill clinton may be a rapist

George bush instituted torture, of people and children, could be connected to 9/11, lied about 9/11 and the war, started a war illegally, let the war go on for to long

obama killed innocent americans, spied on people and violated there privacy, killed innocent people in other countries, was a warmonger, sent drone strikes

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I could make a long list of all the politicans and president I wanna see get arrested and indicted.

it is foolish to focus on one person and I think that one person is innocent

[Soteris]

Easy. Never. USA has a two tiered justice system (if not three tiered but that is semantics). The reason Trump is getting spanked right now is not because he is singled out but because he has exceeded the threshold for what bullshit can be swept under the rug and also because he is REALLY bad at covering up his crimes.

If Trump was just smarter in how he covered up his crimes or if he did not commit as many then everyone would have agreed to look the other way. But at the end of the day, Trump is Trump. He is always going to go too far. If there was a president or politician who were going to get into legal trouble then it would be Trump.

[WilliamPamer446]

what crimes has trump commited and why has he not been found guilty yet?

i dont think that trump is guilty of these crimes.

i think that he is being tried for crimes that he did not commit, and he is trying to show how ridicilous it is and his image is being redeemed and he is gaining popularity.

but i am open to the possibility that he is guilty of some crimes.

but nonetheless, everybody else on the list is probably far worse.

[Soteris]

I mean, there is plenty of things Trump has been found guilty on. For example his sexual assault and defamation of E. Jean Carroll or the countless times his businesses has been found guilty of things like tax fraud or fraud. Trump does not have a clean record even going into his presidency, much less coming out of it.

As for why all these investigations are taking so long? Partially its because Trumps legal strategy is to delay, delay and delay and also that the cases are so big which takes extra time and lastly that for some stupid reason USA does not like to investigate sitting presidents which means these investigations only started after he left office which made it harder to collect evidence in a timely manner.

[RainbowMarinade]

@WilliamPamer446
“What crimes has trump commited…”
There is a list of charges currently against him, if you are interested in knowing what crimes they believe he’s guilty of.
“.. why has he not been found guilty yet?” Because you need to have the trial first.
“i dont think that trump is guilty of these crimes.” Is that based on your unfettered access to all the available evidence? Are you a part of this court case?
“i think that he is being tried for crimes that he did not commit…” well now, the evidence provided at the trial will definitely expose this, if it’s true.
I think it’s hilarious that you want to see a list of people get arrested and indicted for what you assume is “probably far worse?”
No! See, you need to evidence FIRST.

[WilliamPamer446]

@RainbowMarinade rainbow why didn't you answer my question instead of just tryna come over here and laugh at me for my opinion

[WilliamPamer446]

you just randomly came over here and joined in a conversation that you did not start or were in

[WilliamPamer446]

you didn't answer my original question here at all and you kinda proved my whole point of my question that people are focusing on one guy, trump, and not all these other people, and there crimes keep going ignored

[RainbowMarinade]

@WilliamPamer446
I’m not laughing at your opinion. Sheesh. Leave the victimhood at home. 🙄
I read this thread, and the comments made, like I always do, and I responded when I saw something I wanted to address. Are there some online rules I’m not aware of? Am I not allowed to respond to comments? If not, what’s the point?
You want me to answer your original question? Ok.
When will these other guys get arrested? Probably never. The Republicans are either too stupid to figure out how to prosecute criminals, or they are simply full of shit and cannot prosecute.
Take your pick

[WilliamPamer446]

@RainbowMarinade im not playing victim and i wasn't triggered but usually wen people come on a question like this and it was rude for you to come on here and not answer my original question and try to say all the other stuff but I am interested in what he's been accused of I have been following this for bout a week now and that is not why the cia and the fbi are corrupt and the federal is and the illuminati and bilderberg they do there bidding and trump is the only president who never signed onto bilderberg and that is why he is the only one getting this treatment

[RainbowMarinade]

“I have been following this for bout a week now…”
Oh! I apologize. I didn’t realize I was speaking to an expert. 🙄

[Soteris]

@WilliamPamer446
Wow, that is a lot of crazy assumptions you are making. You should probably tone it down on the conspiracy one-world-order thing. The rich assholes are indeed conspiring against us but they are actually fairly incompetent and liable to stab each other in the back. What I am saying is that there is no actual secret organization up there, just a bunch of people who generally agree with each other to fuck us over.

[WilliamPamer446]

you dont know what you dont know i can send you videos on bilderberg and more secret society groups and what the cia has hidden from us and been involved in

[Soteris]

I know many things. Putting aside how it is basically impossible, I have some very.. shall we say "successful" family members. Both conventionally and even some friends who may or may not be running criminal enterprises (Dont know, did not ask for obvious reasons).

Point is, if there was such an organization I would probably not be part of it but I would definitely know about it. I have enough connections in enough high up places that such a thing would naturally be revealed to me. Sadly, since the world would probably both be a much more interesting place with a global conspiracy and potentially a much safer one, but there simply ain't nobody up there pulling the levers. What you see is mostly what you get.

[WilliamPamer446]

this is not about "criminal enterprises" or how successful your friends are, your pivoting bruh. you could private message me nad i could send you videos and videos of cia and fbi and that kind of stuff videos of real people and settings without editing or cgi or camera tricks or photo stop

[WilliamPamer446]

this ain't just bout america bruh

[Soteris]

I am telling you, if CEOs of major world famous banks and such are not part of the global elite then its not much of a club to be part of. I would know from personal connections if it existed, it does not. Also the reason I suspect they are criminal is because the amount of wealth they have simply does not have an explanation. We are talking mansions and yachts here for someone who barely lifts a finger and spends most of their time drinking alcohol in pubs.

[WilliamPamer446]

smh dude ur focusing on money and what u see at surface level

[Soteris]

Money and powerful positions of authority is the center of the world for rich people. It is where they congregate and revolve. I know people in both.

[WilliamPamer446]

ok but u forgot about secret societies, bilderberg, cia, the banks are just a integral part of it

[WilliamPamer446]

its like if we were talking about science and i talked about the mechanics of one thing and ignored the overall nuanced things

[WilliamPamer446]

there's so much more going on and has been going on in the world that you have no idea about.

[WilliamPamer446]

it is much bigger than you and me.

[Soteris]

Nah, things like the Bilderberg Group and whatnot might be influential but they are nowhere near the scale that you imagine nor do they have the complete authority. The largest "secret organizations" today would probably be governmental ones such as the CIA or more likely the Russian and Chinese influence networks but while they have the largest scale and perhaps the most power they are still fairly powerless on an international scale.

When rich and powerful people come together to conspire it is usually for selfish reasons like sharing tips for how to dodge taxes or which politician to support to deregulate their businesses. They dont actually have the power to control the world itself outside from using money to contribute to political campaigns or whatever.

[WilliamPamer446]

lmao your still doing exactly what i said, focusing on surface level and just focusing on what you know

[Soteris]

And I am telling you, there ain't no deeper level. That is all there is.

[msc545]

The thing that got Trump in the trouble he is in now was his big mouth and inability to control himself. The other people you mentioned at least had the common sense to not admit their crimes on national TV, and all of them (with the exception of Bush) had some redeeming acts - Trump literally has none at all.

Nobody cares who YOU want to have indicted by the way.

[WilliamPamer446]

those redeeming acts were manipulation

and its not about who I want its about these people are a threat and what they did still has an effect on the country and we need to hold politician accountable for the disastrs they have caused

[msc545]

You really don't get it, do you? Bush and Obama are no longer any kind of threat. Trump is a clear and present danger right now.

[WilliamPamer446]

biden, pelosi are

[WilliamPamer446]

kamla is

[WilliamPamer446]

i could name a lot of names on both sides

[msc545]

Go for it. I won't read it.

[WilliamPamer446]

im a guy that just wants to know the full truth of all these people

[msc545]

Thanks for MHO

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

More than America's country deals with political corruption, and it's sad that these assholes can stay in power and or get reelected to serve more time in office.

[slatyb]

It has happened to many other politicians. It's happening to Donald Trump now because he committed criminal acts in and out of office.

[WilliamPamer446]

why

and whq

and like what

[slatyb]

Most notably: improperly removing documents from the White House at the end of his term. That alone should be enough to put him away for the rest of his hopefully short life.

[AngryCarl2]

You can get away with anything if you're President, as long as you don't piss off the guy who is President after you.

[WilliamPamer446]

So Trump could get Obama, Biden bush in trouble.

Obama could've got bush in trouble.

Biden could've got trump in trouble, but seems silent.

why does it seem difficult then

if trump is re elected, will he be able to do what he is setting out do do, get biden in trouble

[WilliamPamer446]

it seems like other people got trump in trouble, not biden. he doesn't get tha credit in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

DJT wasn't part of the club so is allowed to be punished

[msc545]

Wow - this question really brought out the crazies...

[Opinion Owner]

Nah, it not even a pro-Trump but just a truth bite, Reagan used his Hollywood club for ptotection

[WilliamPamer446]

@msc545 crazies is anotehr buzzword to silence, ironically a word that would get cancelled because it offends people with mental struggles.

im not offended or triggered or anything, but its ironic how certain people get away with using these words. i wonder if you woud get away asaying that to someone with ocd or bipolar if they said a opinion you disagree with if it happened to disagree with a media opinion that got fact checked. would you denounce them as crazy, even if they had the truth on there side? what if you got cancelled after?

im probably not even gonna get a response from you.

[WilliamPamer446]

Opinion Owner im trying to keep my cool here but also call out hypocrisy when I see it.

[WilliamPamer446]

im tryna ask him good questions to make him think about what he just did, deny what we said. and use that word "crazy" which would get him cancelled in another context.

[WilliamPamer446]

since we are having the "bad opinions" we get to be disrespected, no matter what

[msc545]

I'm a Psychologist - I can say Crazies if I want to usually...

[WilliamPamer446]

@msc545 it doesn't offend me necessarily i just dont like to be undermined or disrespected.

[msc545]

I understand that and I feel the same way

[Opinion Owner]

Jeez here you say something like that in the field (I know people in mental healthcare) you'd get the space and get you qualification certificate torn up

[msc545]

I would not. That word gets used a lot actually. It is meant to be casual and not taken seriously.

[WilliamPamer446]

@msc545 doesn't seem like u always use it casually

[msc545]

Other than here - where else have you seen me use it?

[WilliamPamer446]

@msc545 i think you use it in political convo sometime. can't tell if it was mean intent or not.

[msc545]

I do not use it in political conversations.

[Opinion Owner]

Is this not a political conversation?

[msc545]

Not really no, and that comment was not intended for you.

[WilliamPamer446]

what do u guys think about dominion machines

[msc545]

Voting machines? I don't think about them at all.

[WilliamPamer446]

@msc545 are you concerned about Electoin integrity these past 4-6 years or so

[msc545]

Nope. That's just a Republican talking point to try to explain away the unpopularity of Republican politicians. Telling people that any election that you lose means the election was somehow tampered with is very unpopular. In fact, not just unpopular but also an outright lie.

[WilliamPamer446]

@msc545 im not a republican im an independant and i am concerned about election integrity

[WilliamPamer446]

im an independant and i dont trust the mainstream media

[msc545]

You can be concerned about election integrity all you want. Although I have no idea why since actual cases of election fraud number in single digits typically for any given election. I'm afraid you've been duped by Republicans who lose their minds anytime. One of their candidates loses and attribute that loss to election fraud instead of to the actual unpopularity of their candidates and their policies. This is particularly true of their economic policies and also true of the ongoing racism. In many of their proposals. It turns out that taking people's money and discriminating against them because of their race has become largely unpopular in most areas of the United States. Republicans fail a realize this or they simply adopt the Trump explanation for every setback the experience.