Why can non trans people not understand this simple thing about trans people?

[heatherluv24]

People who are not trans worried about trans people not being able to orgasm if they transition are creepy. Why would people be so interested? Weird! I had several things transition fixed. 1, my sense of smell was restored. 2, before I could get erection and ejaculate but no pleasure and no twitching when id ejaculate. Transition fixed this and other problems. I now actually feel pleasure all over my body when i orgasm and during buildup, penis doesn't get nearly as hard but it does contract over and over. No semen now. My sense of smell only went away once puberty started. Thankfully I was able to transition a year or so after so testosterone didn't cause much damage. There are a few other issues physical that were right only after estrogen. People who are not trans don't get what they are trying to force trans people through by wanting by government like bans on hormones and all forcing original biological puberty. It won't work the way people think it will.

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Ingratitude from people here. If they were trans, they would understand.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Your sense of smell was restored? That's kinda interesting. How many other people has that happened to?

I don't know the trans thing is hard to wrap my head around because my question has always been, how do you know the difference personally between being gay or just being either a tomboy or a little flamboyant compared to your peers?

This guy used to cut my hair. He had a lisp, very flamboyant. I thought he was gay for a while. But then he showed me his gun collection. I've known some gay dudes who like to shoot, no problem. Then he told me about his wife... And kids. So now I'm really confused. I'm pretty sure he really was straight. But I always wondered: If he grew up now, would he have ended up identifying as trans and how would his life have been different?

Obviously, there's no way to answer that question. But a lot of this definitely takes place in a person's head. So how much of it is perspective. And yea, there's plenty of studies that prove everything you've experienced could just be because you believed you were trans so much, that it gave you these senses back. In a way, it's a type of placebo... Possibly.

But it's very difficult for most people to understand trans people, including the lgb community so far as I can tell, and it's because it seems more like a fetish than anything else. At least 90% of the time it does.

And the other thing that doesn't help you all is that you act like it's simple and it's some kind of deficiency everyone else has, to not understand this concept which for all intents and purposes is brand new to 99% of society.

[Anonymous]

Yes, I get that too in some ways. It's very weird. But I don't think it's real concern for trans people's well-being, because most of the "concerned" questions they ask are pretty obvious questions that anyone seriously consider the medical treatment would already be aware of before making the decision. Nobody wants surgery on their genitals and doesn't stop to think "wait, maybe this will effect sexual performance or pleasure..." Of course we know and weigh the pros and cons.

I think the real reason people say things like that is just that they don't understand and aren't comfortable with the idea, but can't think of anything real say to try and convince you not to do it. Like back when I was first looking at options for top surgery, somehow it came up at a holiday event and my MIL seriously said "you know that leaves huge scars right? And your nipples could even fall off!" As if I didn't know that. I used to want a full double mastectomy, and that has much more intense results than top surgery. Trans people are perfectly capable of understanding medical risks and making serious decisions for themselves.

[Anemone978]

Bro this IS a mental disorder because before it was possible to "transition" it never happened.. Sure there have been Drag people for a long time but most are happy in their own bodies they just like to have fun dressing up..
As for doctors helping you to change your gender that is not a natural thing.. because it wouldn't be possible without doctors trying it out.. if we were a species that could change our anatomy normally that would be believable.. but we are not, so clearly something is wrong with you, not everyone else..
So if stupid doctors were not there to change your body, what would you do? You would learn to accept yourself and live with your mental disorder.. but now that you can physically change you think you can push your mental disorder onto everyone and corrupt the minds of children with your crap.. Normal people do not care.. it's not our job to..

[Anemone978]

Also did you not watch Jazz Jennings show where because he was on hormone blockers from a young age his dick didn't grow to normal size so he was not able to get the bottom surgery to make a vagina.. and it took many surgeries to even make it possible.. so having a ban on hormones and other shit for children is a smart thing to do.. Also I feel like because his mother didn't have a girl and she stated herself she really, really wanted one.. she probably instilled in him at a young age how much she wanted a girl which probably pushed him in that direction..

[RoseySarah]

What weird rant did I read?

From it helped my smell to it's not how you think to just thinking of my privates?

To forcing bio puberty?

To just any government controlling things?

Did you come from Twitter? Just freed from 200 character limit?

[heatherluv24]

How many saying they don't care go to government calling them to say oh ban until 18 or what or calling trans people groomed or such other things.

[RoseySarah]

What? Honestly
Really can't understand your Grammer!

Is English not your first language?

[heatherluv24]

I wrote it just fine. If you can't read, not my problem. Oh wait you can read it just fine but don't like what I said.

[RoseySarah]

Yup from Twitter just get mad over everything and every one is against you...
If I hated it then I can remove it! There is a button that every one can use to hide bad comments.

Any thing I say will offend you so muting and ignoring...

Lmao now you use nice Grammer for hate!

[Lliam]

"Trans" women are not and never will be women. "Trans" men are not and never will be men. Many trans people understand that. The attempt to convince people otherwise is a sign of delusion.

The bottom line is, few heterosexuals have any interest in sex with artificially constructed trans people. And I can't imagine a heterosexual who would consider a relationship with one.

And allowing anyone under the age of consent to have any transitioning treatment or even puberty blockers is a crime against humanity. Children are impressionable and incapable of knowing what's best for them. They need to see if their attitudes/beliefs/feelings change once they pass through puberty and become more mentally mature.

[Guardian45]

I think non trans people are TOTALLY confused by your Q (is it a Q?) as am I.

Are you trying to inform us and solicit our opinions of your highly personal sexual issues?

Or are you trying to solicit non trans peoples views on something else?

[RoseySarah]

Lmao just starting arguments

[AnusNdaPainus]

I have zero sympathy for trans people

because y’all could’ve just stfu , mind your business and live your life

but instead you’re getting the attention you wanted

my the words of my great grandfather

“I pay the bills” so fuck trans people fuck em to the moon I have a life to live the trans community problems are their own and I don’t have energy to feel sorry for you people

[boggboss]

I have never heard or seen someone talk about this lol maybe it's a twitter thing or just somthing people say online

[heatherluv24]

Lots do.

[boggboss]

Where

[heatherluv24]

Have you not heard government restrict trans people from sports to bathrooms and on. If you haven't, I don't know where you've been.

[RoseySarah]

Love how this commenter can be any where on the world and your like are you not woke! It's happening every where!

But not saying where or any examples Twitter asker.

[heatherluv24]

@RoseySarah you know well what has happened. Your playing as if you don't know. You are not being honest.

[RoseySarah]

Now I'm hidding your comment
Lmao 🤣

Again still just screaming not giving an example of where or who! Twitter transfer

[RoseySarah]

Ops wrong comment spot
Sad no delete button for my comment

[heatherluv24]

@RoseySarah why you obsessed on twitter?

[boggboss]

People restricting trans people from sports and bathrooms has nothing to do with them caring about your ability to climax

[boggboss]

Also banning trans people from sports and toilets for many is a serious issue these are spaces that have always been for cis women that are now being opened up for trans women yes it may be uncomftble but it's no less uncomftble for the women in these spaces that have issues with it

[heatherluv24]

People have talked about it the last year often. Weird and none of them know anything about trans.

[boggboss]

I have not seen anything talk about trans peopels abilities to orgasme and the examples u gave have nothing to do with that subject

[heatherluv24]

Denial huh?

[boggboss]

U still have bot provided any actual example apart from maybe twitter or other online spaces

[boggboss]

If u want to talk about why trans women are getting banned from certain spaces thats fine but trying to make pit like their are massive conversations going on about trans women's ability to orgasm is simply a lie

[heatherluv24]

I've seen it said on youtube, twitter and elsewhere. No lie.

[boggboss]

So like I said online spaces where u are specially searching for it because its nit conversation the wider audience are having

[heatherluv24]

Nit?

[boggboss]

Not*

[heatherluv24]

Than you should of wrote it right before.

[boggboss]

Lol called a typo did think I would need to explain that nice deflection tho as u know nobody cares about your ability to finish I do like that u came on here crying about being misunderstood by other people yet u come off as so combative and unlikeable its no wonder people end up disliking u or go to the extream end of being transphobic u represent your group and u make enemy's for them 😅

[heatherluv24]

That's a lot you said. You sure that's true?

[boggboss]

I know it's true for a fact that u have bit got along with anybody in this thread speaks volumes u are clearly like this as a person so I doubt your able to build good connections with others

[dragoblack]

I'm not a trans dude, and i just treat trans-people like people. I have no sexual interest in trans people, so I'm not going to creepily obsess about something that is none of my business. You do you and enjoy your life. As long as you're not causing problems and drama for others it's all good.

[jshm2]

Don't flatter yourself, People aren't "worried" about trans people any more than they are about accidents.

Trans people are more a danger to themselves, than others.

[Anonymous]

As a trans person my concern is that transitioning isn't really a solution to the problem. As it lies within the brain. Your body is perfectly healthy. Transitioning someone leaves them permanently sterilized. Not something that should be promoted among adults; and should be banned for minors.

[Anonymous]

Well let me tell you that being a non trans person I don't care about trans people

[YesterdaysChild]

You also have no idea what kind of surprises you may have 15 or 20 years down the line.

[Juxtapose]

What a twisted world we live in where people are actually arguing for sterilizing children with these horrible puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapies. You should be ashamed.

[Anonymous]

I don’t care about trans people lacking the ability to orgasm.

[Fuentes]

I don't wanna understand anything about a trans person.

[007kingifrit]

its child mutilation and there is no transitioning, its basically just wearing advanced makeup

[Anonymous]

I've never heard anyone worry one but about this. Instead what they were curious about is Iif you preop or post

[kylee2437]

I’ve never heard of anyone caring about this stuff

[heatherluv24]

Really so the bans never happened you think?

[kylee2437]

Bans of what?

[heatherluv24]

Um bathrooms, sports and so on. Have you not seen?

[kylee2437]

What does that have to do with what you said? On top of the fact that there’s a reason why trans were banned from what you just mentioned

[kylee2437]

If you are a person that thinks trans women should compete in women’s sports - you aren’t a true athlete.

[heatherluv24]

No reason at all.

[heatherluv24]

Oh really? Explain.

[kylee2437]

I’m a seasoned gym lifter and the less than average male can still lift more than me. You can’t ever put biological males in the same category as women

[RoseySarah]

Don't fight this person just wants to argue.
Big reasons why trans should not be in women's sports but they are.

Also reasons for all rules they just don't like them or accept them any.

Honestly we can't have an opinion cause they won't accept any that is not Thier own. It offends them

[heatherluv24]

@RoseySarah who wouldn't leave who alone? We didn't run to government to control you. I didn't. But others did knowing about trans people.

[kylee2437]

@roseysarah agreed a person that can’t admit that an abnormal identity / life change is a mental disorder is already a problem

[heatherluv24]

Mental disorder is not what it is. You people are lucky you were not born with this situation.

[kylee2437]

@heatherluv24 no one is born with mental disorders - people can only be born with disabilities

[heatherluv24]

Nor is trans a disability.

[kylee2437]

I didn’t say trans was a disability - I said it’s a mental disorder

[heatherluv24]

It's not a mental disorder. I'd know, I'm trans.

[kylee2437]

Then why do you need to go to therapy as a process to transition if it isn’t a mental disorder?

[heatherluv24]

To try to understand what they are dealing with anf if transition is needed or not.

[kylee2437]

So that would classify as a mental disorder if a therapist needs to figure out “what they are dealing with”

[heatherluv24]

No. My therapist would tell you differently. Plus mental disorder or mental illness is used by many as an insult, nothing else.

[kylee2437]

@heatherluv24 your therapist isn’t a good therapist if she/ he can’t be honest with you

[heatherluv24]

And you have proof he or she wasn't honest? Were you there?

[kylee2437]

Or your therapist knows that you can’t take truths well and sugar coats them. That’s sad as hell

[heatherluv24]

You are making assumptions on something you were not at and someone you never met.

[kylee2437]

Or I’m connecting dots considering that you think it’s an end of life crisis if something is categorized as a mental disorder

[heatherluv24]

Are you a therapist?

[kylee2437]

Signed by someone that has adhd, panick disorder, depression, and body dysmorphia by the way ☺️

[kylee2437]

Nope but I am in a field where mentality is often studied and I can tell you are a person that can’t handle actual truths

[heatherluv24]

I'm sorry you suffer from those problems. It's not the same as gender dysphoria. I'm sorry you have to deal with that all.

[kylee2437]

I don’t need sorrys lol I’m just saying classifying something as a mental disorder is not an end of the world scenario and I don't know why the LGBTQ extreme community treats it like it is an end of the world crisis. It just proves further more that it’s a mental disorder

[heatherluv24]

Well I am sorry you suffer. I have no mental disorder.

[kylee2437]

I don’t suffer lol I’m self aware. People that are unself aware suffer the most

[heatherluv24]

So you don't have depression and those other problems?

[kylee2437]

Where did you get that statement from?

[heatherluv24]

You said you don't suffer.

[kylee2437]

Yeah because I’m self aware of my mental disorders and took it into my own hands. I also don’t blame anyone else for the reason why I have them

[heatherluv24]

That's some manipulation you are trying.

[kylee2437]

Manipulation is when people take a truth and twist it to their own benefit because they can’t handle the actual truth

[heatherluv24]

Mental disorder is not truth, its opinion.

[kylee2437]

So why say sorry to me for having my mental disorders?

[heatherluv24]

I was showing compassion. Depression is never fun.

[In_Trance]

non trans people don't give a shit about this

[jahaims]

We don't care

[heatherluv24]

Many obviously did because many called government saying trans people were conditioned by child abuse and other nonsense and lies.

[pantyfetishCD]

i love trans girls