For some, it is as low as 30 years. I just read somewhere that problems like miscarriage can also be due to poor sperm quality. So why are women considered solely responsible for a decline in fertility?
Personally I wouldn't consider her fertility a factor in determining wether she is worth to invest my time and effort in tbh.
A woman in her 30's that isn't a mother yet is absolutely still a potential partner to have a long term relationship with even if she is isn't capable of having kids anymore.
A woman that already has children from someone else is a different story for me. The problem with a woman having children that aren't mine is the fact that I'm required to support her and her children, invest emotionally in bonding with her and her children in order for the relationship to work out. And that's fine untill the moment she decides to break-up with me...
The breakup means that I'm not losing just her alone but also the bond I build up with her children during the time we had a relationship. So instead of losing just 1 person ( which is hard enough by itself already ) I also have to deal with the fact that I'm losing the emotional bond I created with her children as well at the same moment. And this is very unpleasant because you will eventually care a lot about her children aswell.
The other reason why younger woman are more appealing to guys is because a woman is looking her absolute best when she is younger. A woman that is younger will also more likely be less experienced in life itself and therefore more likely to let a guy be the leader in the relationship instead of trying to be the boss. Guys want their girlfriend to follow him and thrust him providing for her and make sure she is being safe with him.
Sadly things like feminism are completely destroying the things men value in a woman. No guy wants a bossy girlfriend that is taking control over his leadership and his will to decide what to do or not to do. Only simps will accept their woman to be the leader in the relationship 🤷♂️
The more experienced woman are the more likely she is going to be giving headaches and the less she is willing to thrust her man on making the right decision ( ofcourse their are exceptions )
A woman should be our peace of mind, comfort and happy aura to have arround. We don't want our woman to be giving us more headaches and problems then we already have to deal with in life itself in normal conditions. She must be our peace and happiness not our headaches02 Reply- +1 y
I understand not all guys are leading the way they should. But if you wanne have a successful relationship you either have to find a guy who will follow your lead or accept that you aren't going to succeed in getting a happy long-term relationship because guys don't want a woman that doesn't follow in general 🤷♂️
You should thrust him from the beginning tbh. Why should he has to prove it first? Shouldn't you prove you can follow first then also?🧐
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1.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Biology and statistics proves that is it the woman's lack of fertility MOST of the time that prevents couples from having healthy kids or kids at all after 30. It is in education biology books and on state educator's exams for science too. It is NOT an opinion, it is a repeatedly verified fact.
Any man that wants to have healthy kids shouldn't start a NEW relationship with a woman past 30. I'll explain why. If they start dating when she is past 30, lets say 31, they date for 1 year, she is 32. They live together for a year, she is 33. They try to have kids, she is 34 for the first kid if they are VERY lucky and can get pregnant within a few months of trying which is highly unlikely. So basically, they get to have ONE healthy kid if they met after she past 30, and that is assuming she didn't have a past of drug use or heavy alcohol drinking, which damages her eggs. (Even if she quits, the eggs are still damaged for the rest of her fertile years.)
It is unlikely for an older woman to be capable of providing a healthy family. Are there some? Yes. Will she be the 1 in over 13,000 that is capable of it? Extremely unlikely.
From the start women tend to bring significantly less value to a long term relationship than a good man does, and her being able to produce healthy offspring is one of the few ways she does bring value. It would be similar to if a man couldn't defend his mate/family. Maybe he is 5' 4" and could get beat up by a middle schooler. That is one if his primary sources of value and it does matter when people lack one of their primary sources of value.
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That is silly. A woman doesn’t lose value just because she is a certain age. Every person has value regardless if they’re 17 or if they’re 104, if someone sees you as less they’re not worth burning the calories over. My parents were around 30 when they met and had two kids, my cousin had her daughter at 40 and my boyfriend’s mom was in her mid to late thirties when she had him. So being in your thirties isn’t too late for that and if anything you’re able to give your children more assuming you even want children.
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Sorry they do lose value as they age
1.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. They aren't. Women are always vauleable. Men just try to tear us down cause they are never valuable in the same way that we are.
And the whole blaming it on fertility thing is nuts. My great grandma had 22 kids. Most of them being in her 40s and 50s. Women are fertile till they hit menopause
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4.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. They’re not. Only unimportant individuals would say something like that.
20 Reply455 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Me personally wouldn’t blame her period if she had a miscarriage, by natural causes, unless she was doing things that she was told to stop doing that could cause a miscarriage to occur , if her doctor told her To stop smoking or drinking and she was doing it anyways then I would’ be upset with her that she didn’t take care of our baby but if the baby died from natural causes, then no way shape or form would I hold her responsible for it and stand by her side as much as possible to let her Know I love her no matter what and that I am there for her no matter what. If a guy gets upset with you over something you have no control over then you should honestly really reconsider that relationship and start making your plans to move on from him , that guy doesn’t really love you , he just likes the convenience of you , when people act like they own you and control you when they get into a relationship with you , that’s when you need to put your foot down and make it clear to them that they do not own you , There is a difference between boundaries and control in a relationship , which sadly a majority of people have a hard time grasping, Boundaries are set for the both of you, to keep the both of you close together , Control is 1 partner only wanting things their way , basically there way or no way , they don’t factor in your feelings , it’s what is best for themselves , that’s someone you should walk away from because they only care about themselves. Find someone that values you the same way you value them
00 Reply2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It makes sense in evolutionary terms that if there is a genetic defect with a foetus, or some other issue, for it not to be carried to full term. It doesn't just happen with human females.
So whether there is a problem with the sperm or the ova a spontaneous abortion might occur. Ova are more complicated than sperm. Ova are the largest cell and sperm is the smallest. Sperm can (just) make to 5 days of life but ova only have a viability of 12 to 24 hours.
Whereas usually only one ova is released, one shot of semen can have 300 million sperm cells. So there are lots of spare sperm but not ova. It is quite an obstacle course for a sperm cell to wend it's way to the ova so the less motile get filtered out.
The biggest issue is that female fertility decreases quite rapidly. It starts plunging at 35 and sharply decreases. This seems to be what you are asking. There is a fertility chart in this link.
00 ReplyOh, darling, you couldn't be more wrong. Women are never unimportant, no matter their age. In fact, the older they get, the more desirable they become, the peak attractiveness is reached when they're just short of being decomposed. There's something about a mature woman that just screams experience and sophistication. And let me tell you, nothing turns me on more than a woman who knows how to please a man. As for the whole fertility thing, well, let's just say that a woman's eggs aren't the only ones on the menu. My little soldiers are always ready to go, and I know for a fact that my jizz is packed with potent swimmers. But hey, if you're worried about a decline in fertility, just give me a call. I'd be more than happy to give your ovaries a good workout. In fact, why stop at one hole? We'll try them all, and maybe even create some new ones. After all, a woman's body is my playground, and I love to explore every inch of it. And if we happen to break into your house and your husband is tied up, well, that's just an added bonus. I'll make sure to give him a good show while I pound your tight little asshole. And don't worry, I won't forget to piss in your bathtub and raid your fridge before we leave.
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+1 yA woman's primary utility to a man is reproduction or the appearance of fertility and that starts to diminish around age 30. Conversely a man's primary utility to a woman is his ability to procure resources which in modern times usually just means money and that doesn't happen until around the same age. Even though they start to lose it earlier in life, women are automatically given their value while men have to work for it.
The reason women are responsible for the drop in fertility is because they are increasingly valuing their careers over starting a family and often don't realize their mistake until it's too late. They would be better off starting a family first and then trying for a career after the kids are old enough to look after themselves.
00 Reply 897 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I´m not sure if women are solely responsible for the decline in fertility maybe my environment is different. But to answer your question I would say because it´s online trash talk where they pick out one aspect of a woman. It´s a talk of guys that try to raise their own self-confidence by talking down women but they are probably guys that never tried to find a real life partner and follow a certain fantasy.
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+1 yThey are not.
When it comes to the sexual marketplace of finding mates a woman's prime for attracting and landing a husband is 18-27.
Beauty, being fertile.
She has value as a person/human but a woman's attractiveness as being a wife, getting pregnant goes down 35-40 age range. Not is young and pretty, almost too old to have kids, has been sexually active for a long time.
00 Reply A woman after age 45 rarely can conceive. A man can contribute even into age 70+ with little sperm count but enough to fertilize an egg. That's why woman are not chosen once they reach a certain age.
All of this debate is of no consequence when love is true and you are not just looking for children through her.
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+1 yIt makes *some* men feel powerful/ better about themselves to devalue older women. So that if they get rejected by someone they can say "in 20 years she'll be worthless and I'll still be in prime". It's insecurity, loud and clear
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+1 yI don't think they are.
The older a woman gets, to an extent, the less fertile she becomes and some guys want them to be at their peak when wanting to start a family.
Men's sperm quality does decrease too, but they remain fertile.
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+1 yIt's not so important what some men (or women) think. What is important, are scientific facts and how you feel about them. Don't let others think for you.
00 Reply8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Well, that's a very vague question. As a partner, a woman has more options while she is still of childbearing age, albeit less if she already has children.
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+1 yThere are a lot of strong opinions online that I don’t understand. Though in my personal experience I get more positive attention from younger women than women my own age and older.
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+1 yAlways special. As a daughter, a sister, a mother, aunt, grandmother. Special at all ages.
20 Reply551 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. the men answers on here are so fucking uninformed, it's comedy
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+1 yWhat women are you speaking about?
Because I’m pretty sure if she is well and healthy she should not face any kind of complications. You need to stop listening to what other people tell you00 Reply1.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It's because so many men want them young and dumb.
I'll pass on young and dumb and take older more settled women any day.00 ReplyMen lose fertility with age, but woman lose their fertility totally when they get old.
00 ReplySays who?
The only reason some men might think they are, is that they think women are only here to have babies
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THEY ARE
The government puts aids in the water to make men and women more docile resulting in low sperm count. Its an afront to basic human dignity whsts going on..
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+1 yWomen are important at any age, because a woman is important as a whole and not just to give birth!
00 ReplyBoth male and female need to be healthy. Both sons were born late she was 35 and 38
00 Reply1.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. They aren't.
20 Replythat's not true
00 ReplyThey aren't that bullshit
00 Reply4.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Misscariagers can happen in 18to 30
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