Proof the United States is an oligarchy?

[Juxtapose]

The people's will is not represented through their representatives so essentially your vote does not matter.

https://act.represent.us/sign/usa-oligarchy-research-explained#:~:text=Finding%201%3A%20The%20Wealthy%20Have%20More%20Influence&text=Not%20only%20do%20the%20wealthy,laws%20and%20policies%20you%20like.

[rigmarole]

It depends on where you live. My state representative here in Florida has pretty much voted how I would vote on every single bill thus far. He also responds to the public. The problem is that oligarchs tend to specifically target strategic areas of power. They infiltrate certain high population districts to take over their centers of power and influence policy by disenfranchising their voter base. They don't control every government position. They just control the ones that are most advantageous to their political objectives. The problem is that high population centers tend to be dumbed down and corrupt. There is less accountability and people are more authoritarian minded in cities and tend to just obey rather than get involved and hold government accountable. Oligarchs focus their resources and effort toward controlling large population centers. This is also why one of their agendas is to concentrate populations into 15 minute cities and force them into a digital economy. It's easier to monitor and control people when you concentrate them into cities and microchip everyone.

[hahahmm]

Yeah BUT... on day 1 of the Republic, the founders were all rich, right? So worrying about whether rich people have a lot of say in government or not is misguided. It's like being on the Titanic and claiming that you hit the iceberg because a guy with a room in the 1st class section of the ship was steering instead of a guy from 3rd class. I'd ask what are the differences between the people calling the shots today versus the people doing that on day 1. I bet there's a lot of significant differences in how they viewed their fellow citizens.. how they made their money and so on.

There's a lot of shady stuff that has happened int he US over the last 100 years too but the most obvious to see has happened in the last 70ish.

[ShellyBo]

I agree. No politician should ever be voted into office.

[Lliam]

It's obvious.
It became especially bad after WWII. Eisenhower warned us about the influence of the military industrial complex.
And it became increasingly worse when both political parties adopted neoliberalism in the late 1970s. The country has gone steadily down hill ever since.

[Avicenna]

It definitely is (and that is of course not unique to the US), and it shows in government policy, including things like a lack of antitrust enforcement. The oligarchs also game the political system so that most of the time, it matters not who you vote for, you're still going to get someone happy to follow the oligarchs' orders. See why they go all out to destroy Trump? He isn't controlled by them.

[normalice]

Republicans have worked very hard to make it an oligarchy since Reagan. They are almost done and keep the people it hurts the most on their side by promising fantasies of political violence.

[Juxtapose]

Ah yes, the Democrats are uniquely immune to the corrupting influence of lobbyists and money. Truly you are enlightened.

[normalice]

I'll say one thing about democrats, tough. They aren't openly fantasizing about political violence..

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice You must've been under a rock for the entirety of the 2020 "Summer Of Love". Not only were far-left liberals and socialists in the Democratic party "openly fantasizing about political violence" from BLM and Antifa, they ignored it in real time while it was happening all over the country. In some instances, they were even financially supportive of that violence.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 sounds like you are as deeply troubled by political violence as i am. Excellent. Will you also commit to rejecting any candidate that condones political violence?

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice Sure, but you know as well as I do if we take money and violence out of politics, we'd have no government. That's both comedy and the reality we live.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 nope. Money, yes, but not violence.

But that's cool you committed to rejecting Trump. I don't get that far with most Republicans online.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice So you don't consider the federal government sending billions of dollars to support Ukraine (while we have poor people born here that could've used that money) as a form of political violence? Or the federal government spending billions of dollars supporting higher education institutions in this country that refuse to outright denounce antisemitism on their campuses as a form of political violence? Interesting.

I find it hilarious that so many far-left liberals and socialists in this country are so concerned about Trump possibly being elected President again, meanwhile it'll be their own faults if that does indeed happen in 2024, because they're the ones (via Biden) that are completely running the country into the ground. All Biden had to do is "not suck" and do a D- job as President, and he hasn't even been able to do that. All the far-left liberals and socialists in the Democratic party had to do is ignore Trump and he would've faded away (a narcissist with no attention has no power), and they couldn't even do that. You reap what you sow.

Added bonus: Not a single new military operation was started while Trump was President. The same can't be said for Biden, for Obama, for Bush, for Clinton, etcetera, etcetera...

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 I'm not reading any of that because i dont want to argue. I'm just happy we agree on rejecting any political candidate that condones political violence and so we both reject trump.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice "I'm not reading any of that because I don't want to argue."

Translation: I'm right. Thank you.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 no translation needed. I just don't want to spoil the moment with a conversation that is at such a high risk of becoming toxic. You agreed to reject Trump for his condoning of political violence. That puts you well above the average right winger, in my experience and we should >both< want to savor the moment.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice No toxicity on my part, as I know I'm correct. Just don't forget to also reject Maxine Waters and Chuck Schumer for their condoning of political violence as well.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 I don't live in their districts so I don't have the chance to not vote for them, so I can find no purpose to confirming or disproving your claim, other than to take your invitation to be toxic with you.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice So your stating that political violence is okay (or at least okay to ignore) if it's not in your jurisdiction and/or not in your ability to vote it away? Okay.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 I'm saying in a representative democracy I can't vote for other peoples representatives. I can certianly "say" I reject them, but that doesn't mean anything at the ballot box, where it actually counts.

[Unit1]

USA or not, I believe most governments are ruled by the few rich and powerful groups and they make up this facade of voting and parties to keep us monkeys getting distracted, divided and fighting over this phantomic thing.

It's why I say politicians are professional paid liars. Convenient, isn't it?

I can go to China and be greeted with hospitality, be offered tea and chow mein and nobody would say anything about politics.

It's a cursed subject.

[NathanDavis]

the USA has been built as such... lol

but we prefer the term... monopolies

[NathanDavis]

and lobbyism...

[NYCQuestions1976]

That's why I laugh at the false narrative of "White Privilege". It's GREEN Privilege. If you've got Green, you've got Privilege. Period.

[Exterminatore]

I think this is accurate.