Is Hamas is uniquely evil compared to western society?

[Juxtapose]

Hamas raped, tortured and killed people, including children. They raped women at the Nova festival, passed them around and while raping them shot them in the back of their heads. They'd rape girls next to the dead mutilated bodies of their friends. They'd put explosives into some bodies so the people examining them got killed. They'd use the phones of the people they killed to send pictures and videos of their mutilated bodies to the victim's friends and families. That's some dedication to being fucking subhuman scum. Because killing innocent civilians on itself isn't bad enough...

Nevermind Hamas crimes against their own population 😅

And yet the Israelis are supposedly the bad guys? 🙄

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"Dude you don't have video evidence of these massacres and rapes committed by Hamas."

Hamas literally sent video evidence to the family and friends of the victims and also first responders were blown up by explosives left in bodies.

[DJB72]

Yes.

Anyone claiming it's the Israeli response that's the issue is ignoring the Muslim crimes against humanity in Pakistan where they are forcibly deporting around a million people - mostly Muslim - to Afghanistan.

A million Muslims have been put in Chinese concentration camps in the last ten years

The Islamist militia in Sudan attacking non Muslims

Hamas supporters should be rounded up and shipped to Gaza and the West Bank. Let's see how long "Queers for Gaza" last there under Hamas's tender mercies. The "LGBTQ we stand with Gaza" group. I'm sure the guys flashing their ass cheeks in chaps will be welcomed. Maybe the "Trans for Gaza" group would have better luck...

SMH...

How can these morons be so wilfully ignorant of the truths about it?

I'm sure I'll get blocked by more people over my answer here. Go ahead. It's not my loss

[Nelaary]

One question how about the Palestine Christians living in gaza who by the way get k iled after they b ombed church since you are such an islamophobic i really want yo know about your opinions about this

[DJB72]

@Nelaary Hamas is the big problem. They're indiscriminate in who and how they kill. The Christian communities in Gaza are treated by them as cannon fodder.

I'm not an islamophobe. I'd be equally condemning if any group was busy going out of its way to wipe an entire nation out - the stated goal of Hamas. They want to take the land "from the river to the sea" that's the Jordan River - Israel's border in the East - to the Mediterranean - Israel's border in the West. That would eliminate Israel.

My point is that people getting riled up about Gaza who aren't equally riled up about the humanitarian crises being perpetrated by Pakistan, Sudan, Nigeria and Kenya by Muslims against their neighbours who aren't Muslim or are the wrong type of Muslim, and China's concentration camps interring Muslims for their religious beliefs because they're not Communist are simply antisemitic hypocrites.

[Nelaary]

So let me get this rghit you don't condem the children and the babies being bom. b to pieces more than 1500 the number is growing by the way and you are just fine and okay with Israel occupation of the land for more than 75 years and through all that years the killing was justified but when hamas wich by the way are the freedom fighters not in any way terr. orists tried to defend themselves are the one to blame
So it's okay to ki ll an less they are not arabes or Muslims

[DJB72]

Delightful way to twist my words.

I never said I don't condemn the deaths of anyone in Gaza, whether they were killed by Hamas or Israeli strikes.

There is not and has never been in over 2000 years a nation called Palestine. The Romans called it Palestine to piss off the Jews because "Palestine" was the closest they had to "Philistine" - a reminder to the Jews that they were an occupied nation.

The Arabs of the Middle East sided with the Axis powers - Hitler - because he was seeking the elimination of the Jews. That's why the British Empire had control of the Holy Land after World War 2 and a big part of why the displaced survivors of the Holocaust were given that land as a home.

If Hamas - the word itself means "violence" - gave a single flying reindeer about peace the murders in October of innocent festival goers would not have happened. They've been offered a chance to find peace many times and the leadership says they won't consider it if Israel doesn't cease to exist as part of the agreement.

By all means go to Gaza and join up with the "freedom fighters" you admire.

[Nelaary]

Hamas doesn't mean violence it's ( harakat al mokawala al islamia) it means the resistance movement the freedom movement and the historique stuff you just said are all lies please read books don't follow what they telle you you are not a sheeps i can give you a simple example did you know in occupied Palestine (because Palestine is a country and it is occupied) there is a Closed sewer drains with the name Palestine on it it hase been there sences 1948 older than this so called nation please educate yourself it's quite pathetic

[Nelaary]

You just don't care because they are arabes babies you dont consider them humans you justified and blame everyone except the ones who are actually doing it this word is just evil i really don't want to be apart of it anymore seeing the horrible and horrific things there then finding people like you defending the ki ller and blaming the victims is just heart breaking really i guess after all we aren't all equal it depends on your rice and religion 💔

[DJB72]

The Hebrew verb is חָמַס ḥāmas, meaning “to do violence,” “to wrong;” the noun is חָמָס ḥāmās, meaning “violence,” or “wrong.” In the Hebrew Bible the verb occurs seven times, e. g., “her priests have done violence [חָמְסוּ] to my law” (Ezekiel 22:26)

So... Nice acronym. Maybe some overzealous idiot founding the organisation in 1987 from the Muslim Brotherhood should have thought it's name through.

I don't give a fuck whose children are being murdered by whom. It's an absolute evil. It doesn't matter if it's babies in Gaza or teenagers at a music festival. Both are a fucking disgrace and I'd pull the trigger to end them myself irrespective of whether they're Hamas or Israeli.

Show me the active members of the IDF targeted on October 7th. Prove the young women brutally raped and murdered by the Hamas terrorists that day were all actually Israeli army. Then prove where rape is allowed under the Geneva Convention.

Right now the full force of the IDF hasn't been used because they're treating it as a police support rather than full military assault. If Israel truly wanted to annihilate all the inhabitants of Gaza and the West Bank, and even South Lebanon, do you truly believe they currently can't? It's a nuclear power for fucks sake. They could do it in less than a day. Using conventional weapons it might take a couple of weeks, but they have enough hardware to wipe out every living thing in those areas.

They don't because that really would turn international opinion against them.

You're quick to accuse me of islamophobia because you choose to twist what I'm saying. Take a good look at your own antisemitic reflection in the mirror.

[Nelaary]

Wtf are you serious did see the interviews of the israili woman in the 7th of October and how hamas treated her and her babies or how about all the interviews of all the women been released by hamas how can you steel talk about rape no one get raped that day just like the 40 behaded babies and they baby how allegedly was cooked all this lies where exposed one by one all of them
Do you expect me to belive that
All lies so Israel can give the right to herself to kill as many Palestines as it can the minster of Israel said literally we have to nuc gaza word by word or how about the prime minister who called them animals and the children of the dark and i speak Arabic hamas means exactly what i told the whole world cam see through your shit they are and will never be terrorists they are freedom fighters

[Nelaary]

And every time someone dare say something you accuse him of being antisemtic really it's getting old

[DJB72]

Here's eyewitness reporting about your "peaceful" people. But I'm sure you won't believe it. You're so embedded in the lies from Hamas you're blind

gellerreport.com/.../

[OddBeMe]

Unfortunately they’re not compared to Islamic societies. After Bush fcked up Iraq that land became an ISIS haven for sexual assault and brutal attacks.

[OddBeMe]

But they appear to be “evil” in about every word. Doesn’t mean Palestinian kids should die.

[Juxtapose]

It's fucked up and I am sick of people falling for Hamas propaganda.

[OddBeMe]

20k dead isn’t propaganda it’s math.

[Nelaary]

Today it's 30k officially

[Juxtapose]

Blame Hamas.

[Nelaary]

No it's no the hamas fighters its Israel
Booming all the civilians church hospitals homes refugees camps imbalances journalists not a single thing is safe their they are not the fucking VICTIMS THEY ARE THE OCCUPATION STOP IT no one believes you you already lost the media game
Because you're horrible horrific terrorists acts violence collective punishment no food no fuel no electricity no network no mobiles calls no medication nothing nothing you're true evils souls i hope you get what you deserve

[Nelaary]

Khamas khamas you look ridiculous bering something new it's pathetic seriously

[OddBeMe]

We can be anti Hamas and pro Palestinian kids at the same time,

[Sasahara]

Sadly I’m afraid not. I’m pretty sure Western countries have freaks who would have done similar shit for shits and giggles if they could. Nathan Larson is a person I unfortunatly have had the horror of reading about (cartoonishly evil pedo who ran a CP site on the clear web (not dark web crap media often vilifies, a regular website like GaG or twitter)) he is dead now, but I have no problem he or his friends could do something like this as joke if they belived they could get away with it.

I don’t get why this is the thing that turned leftists against Israel, I guess Muslims are higher on their "victim" scale? If you make a joke about jews similar to their jokes about Christians you are somehow a nazi, but heaven forbid Israel defends themself.

[lightbulb27]

They are a different version of awful, an extreme. We generally try to hold our military to standards and will prosecute soldiers that go nuts. We have done horrific things in the past but try to avoid them... ahemmm.

They are doing this intentionally. Question then becomes why and how they justify it. Humans will justify anything they do.

[Al_Musafir]

Quite the opposite. Hamas is the resistance to the illegal occupation of Israel. Meanwhile Israel continues to claim baseless allegations against hamas of killing children, mistreating hostages etc, there are clear evidences of the Israeli occupying force being guilty of doing so.

[Juxtapose]

Hamas literally uses hospitals and civilians as cover. They're rapist scum who even brutalize their own people.

The Palestinians are fine, Hamas is repulsive.

[Al_Musafir]

The way the hostages are treated and released by Hamas and Israeli occupying force tell everything. Israelis even killed their own hostages and bombed their own hospitals. There's no justifications to their degenerate and inhumane actions.

[Juxtapose]

Hamas literally rapes women and then puts bombs in their bodies after filming it and showing their family.

[Al_Musafir]

Video proofs?

[Juxtapose]

You can look it up by yourself, I haven't seen any video proof from you either.

[Al_Musafir]

I haven't seen any video of Hamas doing anything like that. As for IOF, here is the link.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlxo7fA0vA8

[Al_Musafir]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=leVJAiGMDqI

[Juxtapose]

TYT is straight up an unreliable source and I can prove it.

https://youtu.be/Jssc6kECBiU?si=gJb47SjpO5UZ5Srk

Look at how they interpret that study and tell me you still trust them.

Also Al Jazeera funded TYT.. also not trustworthy.

[Al_Musafir]

Who you believe then? BBC? CNN? WION? Their hypocrisies and lies have been busted plenty of times. Even their misleading headlines clear it when they write 'X number of people killed in ¡srael and Y number of died in Gaza'. Not trustworthy.

[Al_Musafir]

I know you're brainwashed by the Israeli propaganda but if you wish to see the truth here are links to the same incident from other news sources.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a-WsHmFUv4I

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mvUClDPFsGA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KjDUhj3KMZs

You can't deny the barbarism of IOF.

[Al_Musafir]

This one even includes children. Let's see how you deny all of this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MFYFRQASiIE

[DextroShade]

Hamas proudly filmed their rape and murder spree. It's not a baseless accusation if the accused boasts about committing the crime and filmed themselves doing it!

[Juxtapose]

@DextroShade and all he has is Israel doing things that are far less worse than what Hamas has done.

[Al_Musafir]

@DextroShade then why don't you show the video of them doing so? Neither did the asker had the guts to admit or show a single proof of his allegations. I stood by mine and even showed you the video proofs from different news sources. Even the asker's bias was busted and he didn't reply to what he alleged to be 'fake news'

[hahahmm]

Western society is going downhill fast... in the west we are up to our necks in evil while claiming to be doing the right things. Hamas is just more in your face when they murder kids and try to wipe people out. I do support Israel in the war tho.

[mattissebfan5]

Ridiculous every single Israel hostage that has been released by Hamas have said how Hamas treated them well even yesterday 2 Israel women said Hamas treated them like queens everything Israel claim Hamas do has either been proven not true or no evidence yet Israel has been found lying all the time and even some Israel people are against them Israel is creating Genocide before 1948 there was no Israel it was Palestine Israel then stole Palestine land they then killed and tortured Palestinians for 75 Years if Israel were only targeting Hamas they wouldn't Bomb civilians
they wouldn't Execute civilians
they wouldn't let civilians starve
they wouldn't stop medical supplies
they wouldn't kill kids
This is a Genocide Israel are the modern day Nazi's please educate yourself there is a reason why every country in the world has Pro Palestine protests because we don't want to see another genocide on the scale of the Nazi's Free Palestine

[Juxtapose]

1. Did it not occur to you that these hostages are scared and were threatened? I don't really believe the pro Hamas people either since they photoshopped a picture of a burnt baby to make it look like Israel lied.

2. Hospitals are being bombed because Hamas is using them as human shields. Do you expect Israel to let themselves be bombed with impunity and do nothing? Wake up.

[Nelaary]

Exactly thank you

[mattissebfan5]

@Juxtapose Bro most of the world is not falling for Israel's lies anymore you need to wake up Israel has been doing this to Palestine for 75 Years but I guess you are like I assume the people who would of believed in Hitler lies

[mattissebfan5]

@Juxtapose Whether Hamas are bad or not isn't the point it's about Israel going and killing innocent civilians there is no excuse why would Israel target Journilists kill over 100 because they don't want the truth Israel genocide to be reported why would Israel stop Palestine getting food or medical aid because it's not a war against Hamas it's a Genocide against Palestine Israel have killed innocent civilians trying to hide Israel have sniped people and kids over 8000 Kids have been killed are they Hamas NO it's genocide Israel have broken over 60 international war crimes law

[Juxtapose]

You're falling for Hamas propaganda. Hamas uses nass rape as a weapon of war and they have even paraded around women who are bleeding from their crotch and shoved them into a Jeep.

But I'm supposed to feel bad for Hamas because they fucked with Israel and now they are finding out? They go into people's festivals and rape them and now they are being killed, and now you want me to feel sorry for them?

Do you know why Israel was given its own territory? Because the Arabs were on the side of the axis powers, Hitler, and wanted to exterminate the jews. Ever since Israel was founded they have been harassed by these barbarians.

Stop supporting people who want to commit the next Holocaust.

[Nelaary]

WTF there is not a single proof of SA did you see the testimonies of the woman released bye the freedom fighter and 70% of the people killed in 7th are military how about the Israeli women who sad in the interview Israeli tanks and airstrik are the ones how killed those people and what about the be. headed babys no proof even the white house and the CNN reported apologized for this statement stop with this stupid propaganda no one is falling for it get your stupid mind out of your ass and do some research before opening that shit hole which serves you as a mouth islamophobia is contagious geeeeee wtf wtf 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[mattissebfan5]

Well said everything Israel claim Hamas does they do themselves not Hamas God i hope Palestinians are free and Israel pay for there crimes

[Al_Musafir]

Well said.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

AND IF BRAINS WERE DYNAMITE, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO BLOW YOUE NOSE

[Nelaary]

@DARKCLOUD1945X your juste stupid talking with no single proof just to do some propaganda so one question if Israel is so so dam innocent why does it pay more then 5000dollar for the influnceures to do some propaganda and support them i don't think a victim can pay people to help her look innocent so please educate yourself at this point no one is believing your shit only dam like your or just pure evil thank you

[Juxtapose]

lol imagine falling for Hamas propaganda.

[Al_Musafir]

Propaganda is another term for 'facts' that are shown by ¡sraeli occupying force. There are clear videos and pictures of them stripping people naked. Even kids. Pathetic termites.

[Nelaary]

Your shit show is not working anymore believe me the whole world knows the truth it's matter of time you already lost this one find something new it's getting ridiculous and quite pathetic actually

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

Your shitty brain is melting Hamas has spent many millions of dollars in collages on propaganda supporting Hamas over the years preaching how nonviolent they are. The alphabet people stand behind your vile society they are so enamored by your bullshit that they will let you throw them off rooftops because you can't tolerate their lifestyle. Yes you have outsmarted THE UNITED STATES only because a senile old man who will sell his country for THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER. Like you he will lie cheat steal and kill the innocent to further your sick putrid agenda. Yes you the pigs of the earth!

[Nelaary]

@DARKCLOUD1945X inlike you i actually have a brain and eyes and soul which you clearly don't i use them to see clearly the truth which is represented in front of our eyes with proof every day inlike your darke soul who thinks it's okay to kill more then 30k innocent people 15000 of them are actually the average age of 5 children babies and defenses the occupation the aggressor and one someone dare say the truth or shows proof you talk about antisemtic or agenda hamas is resistance movement freedom fighters whether you like it or not

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

better look in the mirror what you are describing is your heart and no soul

[mattissebfan5]

@Nelaary These guys are clearly Zionists don't listen to them you are and billions are in the right being pro Palestine means you care about people being pro Israel means you are a zionist

[Nelaary]

@mattissebfan5 it's really sad and shocking seeing that people could be so so evil and they dont care about babies the average of the death is 5 years old there is no way they are humans i refuse to believe that

[mattissebfan5]

@Nelaary Yes I can't believe how anyone can see the genocide and defend Israel people say oh Hamas this or that regardless of Hamas a country should never kill innocent civilians and we know this got nothing to do with Hamas they use that as a excuse to create genocide the similarities to Hitler and the Nazi's is obvious I have nothing against any religion my anger is towards the Israel government who are the evil the fact they stole Palestine land and then kill them and it's been happening for 75 Years but still Israel use the victim card when anyone disagrees with them it's honestly horrible but there are millions who support Palestine and I hope that governments soon realize this genocide and save Palestine and punish Israel government for all there crimes nice to have someone else like you that see past Israel lies and has a big heart

[Nelaary]

@mattissebfan5 exactly thank you

[DextroShade]

Did you not see the video of the Hamas fighters parading around a battered woman with blood coming from her crotch and shouting "Allahu akbar!" while shoving her into a jeep?

[Juxtapose]

@DextroShade they would rather say that is fake because they can't face the truth.

[Nelaary]

Well they did look just fine to me all smiling and hugging the hamas fighters when they been released saying goodbyes take care good luck even blowing kisses to them i m a woman i want do that to someone how raped me it's getting old seriously find something new and don't forget to the interviews too if you are so so concerned about them do that than come we can talk and stop living you look pathetic

[Al_Musafir]

They don't even have a single video proof that hamas did all that while I showed them Israeli occupying force stripping the captives naked and too from different sources. Yet these people are so blinded to accept the reality.

[Nelaary]

@Al_Musafir exactly thank you but It is not the eyes that are blind, but the hearts

[Al_Musafir]

I was going to quote this exactly.

[Al_Musafir]

@Nelaary Also, they plan and اللہ is the best of planners.

They can deny all they want. What's coming is inevitable and they won't be able to complain or justify their injustice then انشاءاللہ

[Juxtapose]

@Al_Musafir Hamas has been offered peace numerous times and it says it will only accept peace if Israel is dissolved. If Hamas was interested in peace they would not have raped those women in the festival and killed them.

[Juxtapose]

All these pro Palestinian weirdos can do is point to some obscure, most often disproven incidents of Israel doing some minor fucked up shit while also completely denying the genocidal intent of Hamas.

[Al_Musafir]

@Juxtapose hamas was created in response to numerous terrorist attacks by the Israeli occupational forces. Had the refugees stayed as refugees, and not become illegal occupants, situation wouldn't have been so bad.

[Nelaary]

@Al_Musafir he's just ignorant he doesn't care about innocent life's babies being bomb to pieces just playing the victim carte which by the way not working he's soul is just evil don't waste your time or your energy not worth it don't stop talking and standing for what's rghit and believe me your words matter thank you so so much god bless you

[Al_Musafir]

@Nelaary yes. The world will soon see the uprising. 'Khaybar Khaybar Ya Yahood...' (you know what I mean) :))

[Juxtapose]

@Al_Musafir the holy lands were given to the Jews after world war II and ever since then they have been attacked on all sides by their very hostile neighbors. These terrorists have done nothing but lie about Israel, terrorize Israel and rape their women. You won't even admit that the October festival rapes even happened.

Hamas literally photoshopped a picture of a burnt baby to make it look like Israel was lying.

Hamas was offered peace numerous times and their leadership explicitly says they will not accept peace until Israel ceases to exist.

But I'm supposed to believe Israel is the bad guy? Give me a break.

[Al_Musafir]

@Juxtapose Tldr.

[Nelaary]

So I'm rghit you did steal the land after world war 2 they offered you the land and you did come from all over the world because you didn't have a country and you occupied Palestine didn't you interesting
And you know dame well in your holy book you are cursed you don't have a land and what you're doing to Palestiniens is wrong and a sin 😉 😜 😏

[EnglishArtsteacher]

These days, maybe. It depends on the western society you're talking about.

Here in the United States of America, we were "founded" via genocide of its indigenous people, and have enslaved black people, as well as passed some of the most racist laws (i. e. "Jim Crow") in western society, as well as gleefully tried to eradicate the LGBTQ+ Community.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

If you go back eons in time you will find throughout history the same story you expound on in modern day history, I doubt it will change any time soon. So all the bitching and moaning is really for naught

[EnglishArtsteacher]

@DARKCLOUD1945X I was just answering the question.

[DextroShade]

They are sadistic barbarians and the Gazans support them, so as far as I'm concerned the Israelis are justified in killing every Gazan and making a mountain of their skulls as a warning to Iran and Hezballah. If they woke shitstains over here don't like it they are more than welcome to go to Gaza and fight alongside Hamas.

[Nelaary]

You are pure evil you have a dark dark soul even though i hope you want suffer the pain and the grief of losing someone you love parents spouse loves one even pets i hope you don't but if you do i want you to remember this is exactly what they are feeling because they are humans inlike you sadly

[DextroShade]

@Nelaary take the terrorist dick out of your mouth before you speak. I didn't go to into someone else's town and start raping and murdering people only to cower like a bitch behind women and children when they came looking for some payback. The Gazans chose Hamas as their leaders by an overwhelming margin so they made their bed now they can lie in it.

[NamerOfStars]

Sadly, no- there's evil in every society. Pretty egregious evil, too; look at the UN "Peacekeepers" in Srbrenica.

[KrakenAttackin]

Truth. Doing the behaviors you describe are not first forays into cruelty. Once you have crossed those lines you don't come back from that.

[Exterminatore]

I think so. They are vermin and must be eradicated.

[Jamie05rhs]

A lot of people need to get their heads out of the sand and wake the fuck up.

[jshm2]

Nope. Hamas is simply a symptom of the Israeli disease.

[Part2603]

Aren't they par for the course for Muslims?

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

I really have to laugh all this fighting for thousands of years and it turns out the fighting is brother against brother. Muslims and Jews are of the same parents who thousands of your ago went different ways One brother to being Muslim the other to Jew. What I want to know is why all the fighting started between brothers. What is it that caused all these horrors? Thousands of years of wars later. Can any one answer that?

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

years ago

[Lliam]

I don't believe Israeli propaganda.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

And when they explode a bomb in a Mosque, Church. movie theater or again crash a plane into a building you will say that they are poor misunderstood children, and it is just propaganda.

[Lliam]

@DARKCLOUD1945X. Did Hamas do those things?

[Nelaary]

No Israeli forces did that ki lled more than 1400 babies and bo mbed hospitals church refugees camps and more than 20000 people this man is just so dam i can't deal with it really

[Juxtapose]

You don't have to.. Hamas has gleefully brutalized their own population they are supposed to govern. They're savages.

[Lliam]

@Juxtapose. Do you have an example of Hamas gleefully brutalizing Palestinians?
And are we supposed to believe that Israel is "liberating" Palestinians from Hamas?

[Juxtapose]

www.amnesty.org/.../

[Juxtapose]

statistics.btselem.org/.../occupied-territories

[Lliam]

@Juxtapose. I wasn't aware of that specific information. Not that I ever supported Hamas. After all, it was Israel who brought them to power in the first place in order to get rid of Fatah which was making progress in gaining approval for a two-state solution and Israel will never allow that. And Hamas gave Israel an excuse to make war against all Gazans in order to take over all of Palestine.

It is even possible that Hamas works with Mossad and that the "terror" attack was a false flag. The idea actually makes sense.

At the same time, Palestinians have a right to self defense.

It would require an entire book for Amnesty to publish the list of Israel's brutality, unlawful imprisonment, torture, maiming, and extrajudicial murders, even against it's own citizens. Why don't we see daily new stories about such crimes by settlers and the IDF?

I also shake my head at the hyperbolic narrative of the recent Hamas attack, comparing it to the holocaust. And the fact that people still believe the debunked claims of infants beheaded, burned in ovens, fetuses carved out of pregnant women, etc.
Israel is the master of propaganda and making people believe that it is a victim when in reality, it is one of the most brutal and destructive colonial enterprises in history.

[Juxtapose]

You could easily make the case that the United States is brutal and that are response to 9/11 was overblown but that does not make the United States any worse than terrorist organizations who use mass rape as a weapon of war.

[Juxtapose]

Since the foundation of Israel people have been trying to wipe them out because people are anti-semitic as fuck.

[Juxtapose]

Even now people are saying that Jews control media and whatnot and there are people denying the Holocaust.

[Lliam]

@Juxtapose. Yeah, hatred of Zionism (a nationalistic, not religious ideology) and realistic criticism of Israel must be a result of irrational hatred of Jews. But how does that explain the number of Jews who reject Zionism and the state of Israel?

The term "Antisemitism" is a joke. It is designed to silence any analysis or criticism. And it has been extremely successful.
All people who speak Arabic are Semitic, too. That means that Zionists are Antisemitic.

[Juxtapose]

Hamas is a literal terrorist organization. I would support North Korea if they were fighting Hamas, because North Korea doesn't use mass rape as a weapon of war.

[Lliam]

@Juxtapose. This is a pointless conversation, dude. You need a lot more perspective on the issue.

I'll add that I don't believe for one minute that 911 was a terrorist attack by Islamic extremists. The evidence is clear. I'll leave it at that.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

No two one hundred storied building just disappeared in a puff of smoke and with two planes in the sides and Iran proclaiming they did it