What would the female version of Andrew Tate wish to the ladies?

Andrew Tate's message is aimed at boys. When it comes from a guy with a Bugatti Chiron and a Mansion, that has "Tate" engraved at the wall and without showing any arrogance, you know it's a sincere act.

Here is his Christmas message. If you see it, you can see he wishes for boys to be self aware and that we'll get rich, quit our 9 to 5 and that beautiful women start wanting us. That means that universally it can be agreed upon, that most boys want to live extravagantly, drive Ferraris or whatever, have at least a beautiful woman (or more for the polygamous ones), not having to waste 40h per week and instead be occupied with more meaningful activities such as getting a 2nd passport or playing piano or kickboxing or anything, that isn't what they are doing now as they're too broke for anything else.

Here is the full video https://rumble.com/v3f17a8-waspocalypse-now-tate-confidential-ep-186.html

Now what would the female equivalent of Andrew Tate wish the girls?

Getting rich and independent? That handsome men want them? Not having to waste 40h per week on mundane jobs? Travel the world? Get all items they want (e. g. Gucci, LV, Chanel)? What do the girls universally want?

Soteris

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I think you are completely missing the point. While Andrew Tate tries to approach it from a "masculinity" angle, although I would argue its actual masculinity but that is besides the point, what he is actually promoting is just power. As such, if there was a female version of Andrew Tate she would also just promote power but come from a faux femininity view.

In other words, the expression of power through displaying wealth would be exactly the same which means that the cars and luxury properties would be identical if perhaps in a different color-scheme or theme.

Also since Andrew Tate basically just gained power through exploiting the other sex and pretending that the rules and laws does not apply to him (hence why he had to flee the country for breaking the law), that would probably translate into the female version exploiting desperate guys to hand over money for some kind of token access to her attention. Think of the phenomena of selling bath water or whatever and you are probably not far off.

Otherwise Andrew Tates message of just "doing what you want" would be the same and would be equally stupid from a female perspective.

I think it bears repeating that Andrew Tate is just a con artist. His main target to exploit is his own supporters like for example with his pyramid scheme "Hustlers University 2.0". The whole masculinity bullshit he pushes is just to sound convincing and sell empty dreams to hopeless guys. He is preying on their insecurities because he knows they are a collection of "losers".

Likewise anyone following the female version would be pushed into a similar multilevel marketing scheme AKA pyramid scheme that proports to be able to make you rich and famous or whatever. The reason this grift is repeated all the time is because it is simple and it works. All you have to do is take the same old scam formula and put whatever fancy dress on it you want, be it "masculinity", "wealth", "success" or whatever. Its all the same lies hiding the age old same grift. There is literally no originality to what Andrew Tate is doing.

Unit1

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Very thoughtfully put. This is just what I was looking for when I posted this question. I appreciate that.

"the female version exploiting desperate guys to hand over money for some kind of token access to her attention."

I immediately started thinking of OnlyFans or sex webcam websites with paid shows but no show. I mean I know it because I've seen those sex webcam websites, never paid but saw others squandering their money on those "models" and these models either wouldn't deliver, scam them out or perform these acts short and half assed. Makes them even worse than prostitutes.

But yeah, overall power it is. You got my point exactly.

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Soteris

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I dont think the female version of Tate would use OnlyFans or sex webcams like that. I mean, selling sex did work for the Kim Cardasian or whatever her name was but I dont think Andrew Tate would dedicate so much of his own time to his fans. He is more akin to Trump where he allowed students at Trump University to take a picture next to a cardboard cutout of himself rather than go there himself.

Again, Tate sees his own supporters as losers and does not want to personally deal with them more than necessary which is why I mentioned selling "Bath water" which in this case would probably not even be bath water and not be collected by the female version of Andrew Tate either. It would be something she would just outsource and lie about as long as she could put it on the label afterwards and sell.

Its all about how to streamline the grift so that Andrew Tate (or the female version) does not have to do any work themselves so anything that forces them personally to dedicate time such as an OnlyFans or sex webcam would be too much of a dedication. I could see something like hiring a few people to fake handwritten "thank you" notes with a red lip imprint being possible in exchange for a large donation but it would all be things that could easily be handed off to other people to do rather than requiring themselves to do any work.

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Unit1

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You're right. It wouldn't be OnlyFans or sex work. That would go against the principle of being self-made without actually selling your own body like it's not yours.
It would be more like selling something, that is not authentic but appears to be authentic and it's produced by outsourced workers. I mean right now we're talking about a concrete example of monetizing something for the peons to buy. That would be only one example stream of income of several.

But the concept would still be the same if the female version of Andrew Tate would promote power for women. Think of it this way:

If Andrew Tate boasts about buying a Bugatti Chiron on debit (or lets say a Lamborghini since it's easier to buy a Lambo than a Ferrari or a Bugatti), would the female version of Andrew Tate boast about buying... i don't know... some Versaci Dress for 3K USD on debit? Are sports cars for men the same as Brand name clothing, that cost several thousands for women?

If Andrew Tate boasts about gangbanging women for Christmas and getting any girl he wants, how would the female version of Andrew Tate boast? Would it be like "i can get any guy I want and they'll share me"?

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Soteris

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While there would definitely be a higher focus on expensive fashion I still dont think it would replace buying super cars and such. Super cars and such is not about expressing masculinity but about expressing wealth which would be the same for both. I could see there being a different theme or color on the cars but the important thing about super cars is not what they are but how much they cost. That is literally all that matters to the super rich when they buy these things.

It is actually super funny to listen in on the rich when they are being shown expensive apartments and whatnot that is intended to let them express their wealth. All they talk about is things like how the table counter is of black marble and super expensive and the floor is this and the walls are that. Its all about "how much money is on display" rather than practicality or usability. The same thing with super cars, it does not matter how good or bad they are as a car as long as people either thinks or KNOWS they are super expensive just by looking at it.

As such expensive cars and apartments are the lazy shortcut for anyone who wants to portray themselves as successful and wealthy, like Andrew Tate.

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Soteris

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As for the female version of Andrew Tate in regards to sex and relationships? This is where things gets interesting because we dont actually know how much of Andrew Tates sexual exploits are for his own enjoyment and what he does or claims to do to play into the masculinity stereotype. Andrew Tate has literally straight up said he does not enjoy sex with women which tells me that he might actually be gay or something like that but has to play into the heterosexual stereotype to maintain his image.

As such I think the female version might not talk that much about sex at all in case she is a lesbian or not sexually attracted to men. There is not the same stereotype in femininity that requires her to stack up a high body count in the same way. I think she could still do the whole "femme fatale" thing and play it off as her being powerful and being able to do whatever she wants but without the sexual drive to actually want it herself I dont think she would have the mental discipline to keep up that image without being literally forced to.

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Unit1

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Yeah, that seems right. Plus it seems women chase after feelings (and what feelings money can buy) more than actual possessions, that display wealth and success such as sports cars and mansions. We don't see any woman bragging with sports cars and mansions but by having multiple boyfriends or those brand name stuff and maybe vacation destinations. These do not require having as much money as buying Lamborghinis.

However I am not aware of the full picture. I only saw some videos of Dubai and how some girls there are driving Ferraris and say they work as producers and engineers and event managers. I give it the benefit of the doubt, that not all of them are hired prostitutes.

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Soteris

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I mean, we do not actually have to know what the reality of rich women is. Andrew Tate simply presents a fantasy of how it is to live as a rich person which means he has to display as much wealth as possible in as short time as possible which is why cars are perfect for such a thing. One picture with 2-3 cars is worth a few million words so to speak. I am not entirely sure you can do the same thing with handbags or even vacations. They would definitely help, granted Andrew Tate can't travel too much because he is on the run from the law, but I think its more about how much wealth he can stack into as concentrated area as possible for the visual prestige of it all.

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Unit1

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These are all good points! Good talking to ya.

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Unit1

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Before we end this topic, i would like to show you what i just found.
The title says Female Andrew Tate. I find it to be accurate. Average women would probably call her a "pick me". Meanwhile in the comments section...

Check it out.

youtube.com/shorts/ku2EIJtGBh8?si=obsU55X0jBq_y11g

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Soteris

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Putting aside how it is a really bad argument since Feminists literally want all those things she claims they do not want, I do not think she is a particularly good representation of Andrew Tate (although its just judging from this 40 second clip).

She sounds more like a political plant, who holds a controversial or minority view to gain power and money. Like a black person being paid to support slavery or racism as an example. Andrew Tate however is a grifter. Expressing political views is pretty dangerous for a grifter since ever time you make a political statement you cut away another part of your potential target audience.

Andrew Tates choice in theme being "masculinity" already limits his support base a lot so outside of just reinforcing those few points over and over again he does not express any other political views to my knowledge and if he is smart, he should never do so. He should let his supporters always believe that he is on their side of any political argument by staying vague.

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Unit1

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I concur. She's too much involved in politics unlike Andrew Tate to be called a the female Andrew Tate equivalent (i checked Pearl Davis on Wikipedia). If not for that, she'd be close enough to that.

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Soteris

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Yeah she very possibly could have been but rather than strike out for an independent grift she instead decided to jump in on the good old political one. Kinda funny to see them as the independent entrepreneur vs the employee.

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I think you are completely missing the point. While Andrew Tate tries to approach it from a "masculinity" angle, although I would argue its actual masculinity but that is besides the point, what he is actually promoting is just power. As such, if there was a female version of Andrew Tate she would also just promote power but come from a faux femininity view.
In other words, the expression of power through displaying wealth would be exactly the same which means that the cars and luxury properties would be identical if perhaps in a different color-scheme or theme.
Also since Andrew Tate basically just gained power through exploiting the other sex and pretending that the rules and laws does not apply to him (hence why he had to flee the country for breaking the law), that would probably translate into the female version exploiting desperate guys to hand over money for some kind of token access to her attention. Think of the phenomena of selling bath water or whatever and you are probably not far off.
Otherwise Andrew Tates message of just "doing what you want" would be the same and would be equally stupid from a female perspective.
I think it bears repeating that Andrew Tate is just a con artist. His main target to exploit is his own supporters like for example with his pyramid scheme "Hustlers University 2.0". The whole masculinity bullshit he pushes is just to sound convincing and sell empty dreams to hopeless guys. He is preying on their insecurities because he knows they are a collection of "losers".
Likewise anyone following the female version would be pushed into a similar multilevel marketing scheme AKA pyramid scheme that proports to be able to make you rich and famous or whatever. The reason this grift is repeated all the time is because it is simple and it works. All you have to do is take the same old scam formula and put whatever fancy dress on it you want, be it "masculinity", "wealth", "success" or whatever. Its all the same lies hiding the age old same grift. There is literally no originality to what Andrew Tate is doing.

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- Unit1
  
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  Very thoughtfully put. This is just what I was looking for when I posted this question. I appreciate that.
  
  "the female version exploiting desperate guys to hand over money for some kind of token access to her attention."
  
  I immediately started thinking of OnlyFans or sex webcam websites with paid shows but no show. I mean I know it because I've seen those sex webcam websites, never paid but saw others squandering their money on those "models" and these models either wouldn't deliver, scam them out or perform these acts short and half assed. Makes them even worse than prostitutes.
  
  But yeah, overall power it is. You got my point exactly.
  
- Soteris
  
  +1 y
  I dont think the female version of Tate would use OnlyFans or sex webcams like that. I mean, selling sex did work for the Kim Cardasian or whatever her name was but I dont think Andrew Tate would dedicate so much of his own time to his fans. He is more akin to Trump where he allowed students at Trump University to take a picture next to a cardboard cutout of himself rather than go there himself.
  
  Again, Tate sees his own supporters as losers and does not want to personally deal with them more than necessary which is why I mentioned selling "Bath water" which in this case would probably not even be bath water and not be collected by the female version of Andrew Tate either. It would be something she would just outsource and lie about as long as she could put it on the label afterwards and sell.
  
  Its all about how to streamline the grift so that Andrew Tate (or the female version) does not have to do any work themselves so anything that forces them personally to dedicate time such as an OnlyFans or sex webcam would be too much of a dedication. I could see something like hiring a few people to fake handwritten "thank you" notes with a red lip imprint being possible in exchange for a large donation but it would all be things that could easily be handed off to other people to do rather than requiring themselves to do any work.
  
- Unit1
  
  +1 y
  You're right. It wouldn't be OnlyFans or sex work. That would go against the principle of being self-made without actually selling your own body like it's not yours.
  It would be more like selling something, that is not authentic but appears to be authentic and it's produced by outsourced workers. I mean right now we're talking about a concrete example of monetizing something for the peons to buy. That would be only one example stream of income of several.
  
  But the concept would still be the same if the female version of Andrew Tate would promote power for women. Think of it this way:
  
  If Andrew Tate boasts about buying a Bugatti Chiron on debit (or lets say a Lamborghini since it's easier to buy a Lambo than a Ferrari or a Bugatti), would the female version of Andrew Tate boast about buying... i don't know... some Versaci Dress for 3K USD on debit? Are sports cars for men the same as Brand name clothing, that cost several thousands for women?
  
  If Andrew Tate boasts about gangbanging women for Christmas and getting any girl he wants, how would the female version of Andrew Tate boast? Would it be like "i can get any guy I want and they'll share me"?
  
- Soteris
  
  +1 y
  While there would definitely be a higher focus on expensive fashion I still dont think it would replace buying super cars and such. Super cars and such is not about expressing masculinity but about expressing wealth which would be the same for both. I could see there being a different theme or color on the cars but the important thing about super cars is not what they are but how much they cost. That is literally all that matters to the super rich when they buy these things.
  
  It is actually super funny to listen in on the rich when they are being shown expensive apartments and whatnot that is intended to let them express their wealth. All they talk about is things like how the table counter is of black marble and super expensive and the floor is this and the walls are that. Its all about "how much money is on display" rather than practicality or usability. The same thing with super cars, it does not matter how good or bad they are as a car as long as people either thinks or KNOWS they are super expensive just by looking at it.
  
  As such expensive cars and apartments are the lazy shortcut for anyone who wants to portray themselves as successful and wealthy, like Andrew Tate.
  
- Soteris
  
  +1 y
  As for the female version of Andrew Tate in regards to sex and relationships? This is where things gets interesting because we dont actually know how much of Andrew Tates sexual exploits are for his own enjoyment and what he does or claims to do to play into the masculinity stereotype. Andrew Tate has literally straight up said he does not enjoy sex with women which tells me that he might actually be gay or something like that but has to play into the heterosexual stereotype to maintain his image.
  
  As such I think the female version might not talk that much about sex at all in case she is a lesbian or not sexually attracted to men. There is not the same stereotype in femininity that requires her to stack up a high body count in the same way. I think she could still do the whole "femme fatale" thing and play it off as her being powerful and being able to do whatever she wants but without the sexual drive to actually want it herself I dont think she would have the mental discipline to keep up that image without being literally forced to.
  
- Unit1
  
  +1 y
  Yeah, that seems right. Plus it seems women chase after feelings (and what feelings money can buy) more than actual possessions, that display wealth and success such as sports cars and mansions. We don't see any woman bragging with sports cars and mansions but by having multiple boyfriends or those brand name stuff and maybe vacation destinations. These do not require having as much money as buying Lamborghinis.
  
  However I am not aware of the full picture. I only saw some videos of Dubai and how some girls there are driving Ferraris and say they work as producers and engineers and event managers. I give it the benefit of the doubt, that not all of them are hired prostitutes.
  
- Soteris
  
  +1 y
  I mean, we do not actually have to know what the reality of rich women is. Andrew Tate simply presents a fantasy of how it is to live as a rich person which means he has to display as much wealth as possible in as short time as possible which is why cars are perfect for such a thing. One picture with 2-3 cars is worth a few million words so to speak. I am not entirely sure you can do the same thing with handbags or even vacations. They would definitely help, granted Andrew Tate can't travel too much because he is on the run from the law, but I think its more about how much wealth he can stack into as concentrated area as possible for the visual prestige of it all.
  
- Unit1
  
  +1 y
  These are all good points! Good talking to ya.
  
- Unit1
  
  +1 y
  Before we end this topic, i would like to show you what i just found.
  The title says Female Andrew Tate. I find it to be accurate. Average women would probably call her a "pick me". Meanwhile in the comments section...
  
  Check it out.
  
  youtube.com/shorts/ku2EIJtGBh8?si=obsU55X0jBq_y11g
  
- Soteris
  
  +1 y
  Putting aside how it is a really bad argument since Feminists literally want all those things she claims they do not want, I do not think she is a particularly good representation of Andrew Tate (although its just judging from this 40 second clip).
  
  She sounds more like a political plant, who holds a controversial or minority view to gain power and money. Like a black person being paid to support slavery or racism as an example. Andrew Tate however is a grifter. Expressing political views is pretty dangerous for a grifter since ever time you make a political statement you cut away another part of your potential target audience.
  
  Andrew Tates choice in theme being "masculinity" already limits his support base a lot so outside of just reinforcing those few points over and over again he does not express any other political views to my knowledge and if he is smart, he should never do so. He should let his supporters always believe that he is on their side of any political argument by staying vague.
  
- Unit1
  
  +1 y
  I concur. She's too much involved in politics unlike Andrew Tate to be called a the female Andrew Tate equivalent (i checked Pearl Davis on Wikipedia). If not for that, she'd be close enough to that.
  
- Soteris
  
  +1 y
  Yeah she very possibly could have been but rather than strike out for an independent grift she instead decided to jump in on the good old political one. Kinda funny to see them as the independent entrepreneur vs the employee.
  
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Female version of Andrew Tate is technically Taylor Swift... Just go listen to her songs about break ups...
Anton Lavey/Andrew Tate
Taylor Swift/Zeena Lavey

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- rigmarole
  
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  They have the same message that breaks up couples and promotes promiscuity... They just use different mediums to push the same narrative to different sexes...
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM
  
- rigmarole
  
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  Bunch of snakes that send signals with their hands communicating their intention to do evil...
  
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Have a cup of tea ☕️ and smoke a cigar with Andrew Tate.

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- Unit1
  
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  So does that mean the message would be the same?
  Why would heterosexual women want, that beautiful women want to talk to them?
  
- Jennz6
  
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  I’m not a heterosexual woman, I am a Bisexual woman

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