What would happen if a female version of Andrew Tate emerged and gained popularity?

[Unit1]

First thing - it would be kind of a wonder if it happened. And i do not refer to feminism with that, so leave this F word out for now.

why did Andrew Tate become very popular among men? It's partly because of raising men's issues in relation to women, dating, men's lives and relationships such as these shorts:

Why most men are lonely

Why most men lives suck

Most men here means not the top men, who were born or made rich. Point is he speaks exactly how most men ( not the top 1-10 % of men, that either actually rule entire societies or the rich men or the men, that have the ability to get women like buying candy since they attract women collectively).

Unlike MGTOW i am not picking up a very strong concentration of actually demonizing women.

Now it is kind of obvious how his messages are relayed effectively with noble intentions but its heard mostly by men and its like it's falling on deaf women's ears.

What would the female version of Andrew Tate say, that would gain women's popularity? And would men hear it too or would it be ignored?

[BCA6010]

I don't think that the "Cigar-smoking Muslim convert playboy, pimp, and dating guru" persona that Tate has cultivated for himself would resonate nearly as well if it was repeated by and for women, not just for the obvious reasons.

Tate's arguments rely heavily on making common sense statements to lead into much less savory personal philosophy, so particularly a man from his target audience of unsuccessful wannabes make the assumption that it must be true. This is further amplified by the fact the media broadly is overtly anti-male, which causes a lot of especially fatherless and godless men to flock to people like Tate for fatherly guidance and a counter-argument to modern culture of sorts.

Now a woman using manipulative language to gain an audience and exploit hapless people for their money is nothing new, but mimicking Tate, she would run into another major hurdle: part of what makes Tate's lifestyle arguments "work" is that in western culture, women are the gatekeepers of sex, and therefore a man being able to bed lots of women and financially support a lifestyle puts off the image of success, but a woman doing the same thing with lots of men just makes it look like she has no standards and/or is a total slut. It appeals to some anyway, but there's already a saturated market and nowhere near as much demand. The much better message to women to make themselves higher value and more self-respecting unfortunately gets overshadowed or even roped in with the radical man-hating lesbian feminists, and therefore also very unlikely to get anywhere comparable as an influencer.

[Meropatrick]

We have here in egypt a woman like her called radwa alsherbini. She was abused by her Husband horribly then she worked on tv, lost weight, and divorced him and became the female andrew tate. She is very famous and rich now for hating on men.

[Unit1]

Women getting paid to hate men?

[love_conquers_lust]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8h7TChg/

I like what she says. I think the Islamic world is going through the same changes the West went through and Islam is going to die.

She’s not man hating though. She says don’t put up with abuse. That’s a very different message.

[Meropatrick]

@love_conquers_lust its not what she says but the effect she had on many women. She created a cult of man-hating women. Who encourage eachothers on her social media pages. They discuss how women should go their own way. Our culture is not like the west and we dont want it to be. Women are so important in keeping our families strong. And if women rebel the way feminists do our families will fall apart. We dont have developed child services to protect children our women do that. If they rebel we r doomed

[love_conquers_lust]

“Our culture is not like the west and we dont want it to be.”. YOU don’t want it to be. You WOULD have all those services if your government made it so instead of spending all their time quite literally keeping women down. You’re going to have a hard time denying people an opportunity at a better life. What you have won’t last. When there is oppression, there will always be war.

Those women going their own way migrate to the Western world. A lot of them divorce as well because we’re dealing with financial inequity here. But, even if they end up divorced, they wouldn’t have it any other way because they had the freedom to choose so. I’m telling you, Islam will die.

[Meropatrick]

@love_conquers_lust we are not denying anyone a better life. We love our women and value them. But we cannot change things to the better that much. Not because we are bad. But we dont have the same means You guys have in the west like strong economies. Our government cannot afford to support better child services, education, womens rights etc. not because its oppressive rather because its poor. I understand u r from a different culture so you dont know about the situation here. But the westren ideas and ways doesn't work in countries with weak economies, depelted water resources (the nile), unstable currency, etc...

[LazerBean]

Hmmmmm let's see here. Who is a female who is noisy, has a massive social Media following of social rejects, is a whore, and encourages others of their own gender to also be whores while teaching that the opposite gender should keep the traditional responsibilities that benefit them? Well I won't say what group such a woman would belong to, since you have clearly demonstrated that you know the answer and don't want to hear it.

And Tate is not popular among men, only the fatherless ones. Adult, fathered men regard his noisiness in much the same way they regard Kanye Wests noisiness.

[MzAsh]

A female equivalent of Andrew Tate would be highly career motivated and entrepreneurial. Multiple husbands. Opinionated. Unapologetic. Likes drama and publicity. Self serving and uses men only in relationships where he serves her.


She’s… Jada Pinkette.

[BourbonAndBacon]

Andrew Tate is the male version of the angry feminist. He makes some good points but his message is lost because he is too antagonistic and his popularity thrives on being divisive.

[love_conquers_lust]

That’s similar to what I said. He says some of the most angry feminist shit. “I can judge, but you can’t because you’re a dumb bitch.”. His “points” are spinning half truths to his own benefit in a negative light. I can tell he’s a piece of shit just by women’s faces and tones when they respond to his language. I see this feeling of hopelessness and for that, I want his genitalia stapled to his forehead.

On the topic of Islam and since he’s Muslim, I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what Muhammad was. He grew up in a single mother home and probably watched his mother suffer and experienced abuse for it. So he wrote a book that said he was a god in his own mind to take back control, he did it by subjugating women.

Christopher Langan, the smartest man in Missouri had something similar happen to him. He had this broken mindset that he should be in control of the world’s finances because of his high IQ. He too was abused. He lives on a horse ranch out in the middle of nowhere with his wife in peace. I think that’s the best setup for him, like a lifetime retreat for recovery. Whereas Marilyn Savant is the smartest woman in Missouri and thrives in St. Louis. She had a good upbringing.

Tate has admitted to a fucked up upbringing. His mother denounces some of the shit he says. His father was a piece of shit.

[Anonymous]

What @LazerBean said. She is correct on both points.

[Slim57]

Probably the opposite effect and everyone would love her

[Miristheiss]

One did.

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