Does Trump fit the neo-fascist label?

[OddBeMe]

Ultra nationalism (check)
populism (check)(check)
xenophobia (check)(check)(check)
opposition to liberalism (check)(check)(check)(check)(check)(check)(check)(check)(check)

Yeah looks like…

No because ____

Orher

Updates

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Oh! He had dinner with dictator Victor Orban

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PiqxoJ2VOxA

[FreyaRed]

Now let use your criteria by Kim
Ultra nationalism: North Korea best and only one Korea
populism: Well, Kim doesn't say what people want to hear but people say what Kim like to hear, if not there are special reeducation/concentration camps like in every "prospering" "socialist" shithole
xenophobia: oh yeah, every foreigner is a spy, men, women, children, even dogs.
opposition to liberalism: On paper North Korea is very liberal, if you say something else, you will land in above mentioned camps.

I don't think it's about left or right

[OddBeMe]

No that’s true. It’s about free thought

[OddBeMe]

But don’t think it’s “equal on both sides”

[Syntosi]

No. Mainly because he does not really have personal beliefs. He is a narcissist that tells other people what he thinks they want to hear and because he is currently talking to fascists, he is sounding an awful lot like a fascist. Do he believe what he says? No.

[DrPepper12]

Yes but the trump whisperers who flatter him DO

[OddBeMe]

I buy that. But I’d call it a “useful idiot” for fascism.

[Syntosi]

@OddBeMe
Oh, for sure. Anyone with a brain can manipulate Trump into doing most things as long as Trump himself sees it as "worthless" aka not impacting his wealth, his pride or his branding. That is partially why he got along so "well" with all the authoritarians around the world, because they quickly learned how to control Trump.

[OddBeMe]

Funny I’m not even sure his pride is worth much to him.
youtube.com/shorts/9Xw_piCtutE?si=HQySghcfS-7YMs5T

[Syntosi]

Yeah its a weird form of pride but I am convinced he has it. All too often he holds grudges or lashes out at things that would not make sense for a calculated scam artist. Essentially he is overreacting to his feelings.

Some examples are how touchy he is on crowd sizes or how he called in on 9/11 to brag about how his building was now the tallest.

That said his pride appears to strike at random and its very hard to predict on what specific thing he will be obsessed about and what he is perfectly happy with selling off for a scam.

[OddBeMe]

That is true. He would get angry if he had no pride…so he really is just an idiot.

[DrPepper12]

That's fair. @OddBeMe

[DrPepper12]

He displays ever quality of a sociopathic narcissist and has since a child.

Narcissism exists on a spectrum and is defined by grandiose plans (sometimes only in fantasy), lacks empathy, and needs admiration from others, demonstrated by the following traits:

Has a grandiose sense of self-importance and exaggerates achievements and talents

Dreams of unlimited power, success, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

Lacks empathy for the feelings and needs of others

Requires excessive admiration

Believes he or she is special and unique and can be understood only by, or should associate only with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

Unreasonably expects special, favorable treatment or compliance with his or her wishes

Exploits and takes advantage of others to achieve personal ends

Envies others or believes they’re envious of him or her

Has “an attitude” of arrogance or acts that way

He's textbook.

[OddBeMe]

@DrPepper12 yeah but the idea of “pride” when he hocks idiot bibles and golden shoes for his legal fund…. but the reverse as @Syntosi says, he gets so angry he must have pride.

Historians will be tearing him apart for a century. #newhitler

[msc545]

@DrPepper12 He has Bipolar 1 disorder. He is not a narcissist, but he has some narcissistic behaviors as a result of grandiosity due to his Bipolar Disorder.

[OddBeMe]

@msc545 funny Hitler did too. 30s parallels keep mounting.

[Syntosi]

@msc545 Nah, I think Trumps mood swings are due to his drug addiction and not because of a bipolar disorder.

[msc545]

Mood swings are not a criterion for Bipolar 1.

[Syntosi]

@msc545 I guess but I was talking about the "upper" and "downer" Trump as seen in many of his rallies. Call it mood swings, call it energy levels or behavior or whatever. I am not particular about the language on this one.

[msc545]

That is also not a criterion for bipolar 1 disorder. I've seen a lot of this in my patients over the years and bipolar 1 disorder has a fairly distinct and readily identifiable presentation. Trump has that presentation.

[Syntosi]

@msc545 If you say so, I am by far not an expert on this.

[msc545]

I've considered it a lot, and that is my conclusion. I'm a neuropsychologist.

[Syntosi]

@msc545 Very interesting. Well, ill keep that in mind for the future and see if Trump behaves accordingly.

[handsomelad70]

D**N SKIPPY !!!

[OddBeMe]

Hey! Say what you really think here! Lol

[strateguy632]

no because he only had the good parts of fascism.

minority know trump is not racist.

msc refused to host this screenshot. liberals rely on disinformation.

[OddBeMe]

Finish the headline…polls better with them…. than 2016. He raised like two points more. Genius.

Good parts of fascism. You’re what’s wrong with America,

[handsomelad70]

Because the DUMBOCRATIC Party doesn't care about POC;with the REPIGLIKSCAM, it's part of the corrupt duopoly, meaning only a progressive, people's-oriented organization can halt the turn towards Fascism evident in 2024 America.

[JacobJordan]

Did you read the text on the picture dunce? It says it in black and white what a neo-fascist is. Also not to be that guy... who am I kidding I am totally that guy. Everyone would meet the definition of neo-fascist if we used your cherry picking method 🤣🤣 muted and not wasting time on an idiot

[OddBeMe]

Sorry, what makes Trump non-fascist?

[JacobJordan]

Again read the picture YOU posted. You proved he wasn't a fascist while calling him one. Complete fail of a post like most of your posts

[Anonymous]

Basically you are saying anyone opposed to ilegal immigration, is a nationalist, supports the will of the people and is opposed to liberal policies is a fascist.

Most Democrats are by your definition ultra fascist and Biden is all those things though he only applies it when it comes to Israel

[Juxtapose]

^^ this

[DrPepper12]

Supports the will of the people? You're joking right? 27% of the eligible voters is the will of the people? WTAF kinda math are you doing?

[Juxtapose]

@DrPepper12 you say that as if Biden would have better numbers and as if the majority of eligible voters actually vote.

[OddBeMe]

Well…scientifically, they look for trends. So of course being anti immigrant itself isn’t fascist. I’m pointing to the whole diagram.

[DrPepper12]

@Juxtapose he will

[OddBeMe]

@DrPepper12 I don’t want to go down the Hillary road again, but I’m pretty confident Trump will once again lose. Especially especially…. when he’s in jail on Election Day for either contempt of court or he was sentenced.

[Opinion Owner]

Hitler's opponents suffered the same fate

[OddBeMe]

Hitler’s opponents were innocent. Sorry bubs.

[Opinion Owner]

Not according to the nazis

[OddBeMe]

Yeah that’s what fascism is. Immune from prosecution and able to imprison your enemies without courts, due process or any fucking evidence.

Are you the anon fuck talking Hitler on the other Q too? Thinking there were grand juries in Hitler’s Germany?

[Opinion Owner]

Who do you think administrated the law jn Germany before and after thd nazi regime.

[OddBeMe]

There was no law. Except shit like Nuremberg laws against Hitler’s enemies. Those laws didn’t get voted on, no courts decided on due process (especially the People’s Court)…it was Hitler and his henchmen’s will.

How are you this stupid about lawfair or law fare, whatever Fox News calls it.

[Opinion Owner]

The government of the day makes it legal.

[OddBeMe]

Hitler was the govt. Period.

Not like that here.

[Opinion Owner]

The nazis like the Biden regime had infiltrated every aspect of government from local to federal level.

[OddBeMe]

You have a stupidly exaggerated sense of Democratic intelligence and evilness.

[Anonymous]

Fascism is everything within the state and nothing outside the state. To call anything neo-fascism that doesn't closely adhere to this definition is absurd. As such, since nobody hates Trump more than politicians and bureaucrats it is unlikely for him to be a fascist or neo-fascist. A classical tyrant is much more likely. Joe Biden, on the other hand, has definitely shown fascistic tendencies. Going after political rivals and their supporters with the state. As well as, denying secret service protection to the guy who is most likely to unseat him in November, RFK Jr.

[OddBeMe]

You’re getting bogged down state vs non state. If a person rules over a land, he’s the state. Fascism thus is not just state can non state. Genius,

[DrPepper12]

Damn son! Irreality is your jam!

[OddBeMe]

@DrPepper12 so obvious example is Hitler. He was the state. But he also had private businesses in Germany.

[OtterMan68]

Yes, he calls his supporters "patriots" and says those who oppose him hate the US. He wants to use the gov to go after those he thinks are persecuting him. He wants a bigger military despite the US already easily outspending the rest of the world.

[OddBeMe]

Nazis were pretty slick in their lessons. “You need an inner threat and and out threat”

[DrPepper12]

Just so there's no ambiguity about my opinion...

[Jersey2]

@DrPepper12 What a bunch of nonsense.

[Juxtapose]

@Jersey2 agreed 💯

[DrPepper12]

@Jersey2 Siri, what's Something a MAGA cult adherent would say?

[DrPepper12]

@Juxtapose Siri what's something a blind follower of MAGA cult would say?

[OddBeMe]

@DrPepper12 Lol. If Siri or Chatgdp could draw a trumper for you, it’d be these fucks.

[Juxtapose]

I don't care what Marxists say 🤷

[DrPepper12]

@Juxtapose I don't care what people who can't define Marxism say.

[Juxtapose]

It's pretty obvious what Marxism is. It refers to the general ideas of Karl Marx which are used for communism. It's literally in the name lol.

[Juxtapose]

"Marxism is a broad philosophy developed by Karl Marx in the second half of the 19th century that unifies social, political, and economic theory. It is mainly concerned with the battle between the working class and the ownership class and favors communism and socialism over capitalism."

Yep, I was right. How does that L taste?

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose and Marx is connected to twentieth century communists states…how? Not. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot famously said they didn’t read Marx.

[Juxtapose]

What a stupid thing to say, as if they came up with the idea of Communism all by themselves?

You do realize that to implement Communism enlarged groups you need to be authoritarian, right?

[Juxtapose]

*in large groups

[Juxtapose]

There has never been a single society on Earth that has had the ideas of Karl Marx implemented in the way you think they should. That is because it is impossible, unlike capitalism.

[Jersey2]

@Juxtapose true

[Juxtapose]

@Jersey2 yep, and even over 100 million deaths is not good enough for these people to realize they are wrong.

[Juxtapose]

How many more people must be sacrificed in the name of trying out the ideas of Karl Marx?

[DrPepper12]

@Juxtapose news flash Skippy: socialist are capitalists. We believe In mitigating the negative externalities via progressive taxation.

[Juxtapose]

No, socialists are not capitalists. It is an entirely separate economic system. You are getting confused by capitalist societies implementing little bits of socialism.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose so if I kill someone based on Harry Potter is the authors fault?

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose and yes one can be for socialist (government run) and capitalist (business run) agencies.

[Juxtapose]

Karl Marx was putting together a vast philosophy and societal system while Harry Potter is a fictional book. That's an invalid comparison.

No, they cannot be. You are either one or the other and they refer to economic systems exclusively.

[Juxtapose]

Sweden for example is capitalist with some socialist tendencies but it is still capitalist.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose it’s not. Marx and Engels published a philosophy book 100 years before Lenin put his name into title Marx Leninist. Not saying Marx is right. It’s just a philosophical outlook.

If I kill someone because I get the idea from any book, HP, fictional or philosophical…is the author at fault? No mother fucker.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose funny how Sweden can be both but the US can’t be? didn't you also say socialist is Democrat and capitalism is republicans? Like some idiot child.

[Juxtapose]

Sweden is absolutely not both. America has some elements of that as well, such as publicly paid for roads.

Socialism is a left-wing idea and capitalism is mostly right wing. Seems like you're the idiot child here.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose fucking ridiculous.

[Chazmatazz269]

People make up lots of dumb words to make their whining sound legitimate.
Drumpf is nowhere near fascist in any sense of the term. There’s only one group in the US that has repeatedly demonstrated a disregard and even disdain for the Constitution, which is the source of liberty in this country. Liberty is the opposite of fascism. You do the math.

[exitseven]

A democrat operative wrote this definition. Trump is not a white supremacist. He is not an authoritarian, he is not anti immigration, he is against illegal immigration. He is to against liberal democracy., He is not the one putting his opponent in prison,

However being against marxism, communism, liberalism or socialism is a good thing for an American president. too bad we don't have one of them now.

[DrPepper12]

You couldn't even explain the words you use. Sit down Francis

[exitseven]

@DrPepper12 I explained them so that just about anybody could understand them. You are evidently in the minority

[DrPepper12]

By all means explain to me what socialism, Communism, Marxism and liberalism mean

[monorprise]

Trump is a full blown capitalist, without a racist bone in his body.

Cute that you invented a new ideology to attached the "fascist" label.

[DrPepper12]

Full blown is the only accurate part of that statement. Check out his bone spurs tho...

[CriticalCatDad123]

We need a dictator to fix this country on day 1 Trump2024

[OddBeMe]

That’s disturbing. They tried that with Caesar and he didn’t give the power back. He kept being a dictator.

What if it was a liberal hippie dictator next? Dumbass.

[Sevenpointfive]

neo? are you in the cold war or the matrix? follow the rabbit

[Dargil]

Does Barry Obama fit the neo-fascist label? By others' standards, yes.

[Anonymous]

No, he believes in rampant capitalism

Not the third option

[OddBeMe]

He doesn’t pay taxes. Doesn’t run his business well. And wants special treatment from the govt.

[Opinion Owner]

You don't have to be good at business to want rampant capitalism and the whole US was founded because of tax avoidance so it's patriotic to not pay them hence it appeals to his fan base and special treatment is just chronic narcissism

[OddBeMe]

All true! Doesn’t mean 100% capitalism is a good thing. Hitler used capitalism whether he realized it or not,

[Opinion Owner]

Nah it isn't entirely good but better that the other alternatives

[OddBeMe]

Nothing 100% is good. Europe is showing us how socialistic democracy and capitalism can work together. But we’re too stupid to see it as anything but Marxist bullshit. We haven’t grown from 1950 Joe MCarthy.

[WheelerOfSeeds1]

I’m no MAGA-head but I think the fascist label is a bit far.

[OddBeMe]

Can be. I’m describing his behavior. We can stop a pre-Putin.

[gorydetails]

lmao. Keep that propaganda pumping.

[DrPepper12]

Turn off Infowars and stop getting your news where you get your ED pills & tactical taint underwear from...

[gorydetails]

@DrPepper12 aww, are you trying to be cute?

[OddBeMe]

I do need a link to that tactical taint uw…

[DrPepper12]

@gorydetails Again, prove me wrong. Does he provide "news" and ED pills?

[gorydetails]

@DrPepper12 you're still under the delusion I'm obligated to humor your fucktardedness

[DrPepper12]

That was good! Deflection mixed with an ad hominem! Well played! 🙄

[gorydetails]

@DrPepper12 poor baby

[DrPepper12]

Don't bring Trump into this! He's got enough problems

[gorydetails]

@DrPepper12 And yet he lives rent free in your head.

[OddBeMe]

Honestly I don’t even think of T. Just the republican presidential candidate.

[DrPepper12]

Impossible. He doesn't rent to poor or minorities. Check out the DoJ prosecution of him in the 70s n 80s. He's a career racist criminal.

[msc545]

Sadly, he very much does