Is the Republican Party responsible?

[OddBeMe]

Either responsible governing or responsible for this mess.
Even his competitors say they will pardon him.
Congressional Repubs won’t hold him accountable

Yes

No

Other

[Avicenna]

The usual suspects show that Trump Derangement Syndrome has no cure.

Meanwhile, in the real world, the White House tells the media what to say not only about him and his administration, but an opposing presidential candidate who's his chief rival. The administration plans to add to its large number of political prisoners and has engaged in the worst illegal censorship since the Alien and Sedition Acts. The administration illegally attempted to force military personnel and government contractors to take an experimental "vaccine".

In addition, the administration has illegally opened US borders and invited millions of illegals in without knowing who they are and dumped them on localities that were already struggling financially.

Elections use insecure mass mail-in ballots with ballots collected by Democratic Party activists with little to no accountability or placed into insecure ballot boxes. Hoaxes against Trump are pushed and result in huge sums of money wasted on political persecution, yet there is no corresponding investigation of the election irregularities, leaving great mistrust in federal elections. The White House coordinates with prosecutors engaged in malicious political persecution of Trump and with a Democratic Secretary of State in Maine who is one of numerous Democrats illegally attempting to remove the current occupant of the White House's main rival from the ballot, as part of Democratic Party efforts to decide who can run for the opposing political party. Very democratic of those Democrats, as we saw when they took voting out of the hands of Democratic voters in 2016 and 2020.

Huge sums of money are sent to corrupt Ukraine without accountability. The Biden Crime Family traitorously runs an influence peddling business with Ukraine and other corrupt countries as clients and has numerous shell companies, yet the Democrats who run and staff the DOJ and IRS are not the least bit interested in even investigating. Joe Biden is caught in possession of classified documents dating back to 1974, but for some strange reasons his own DOJ, filled with Democrats, isn't interested in pursuing it.

The Biden Administration got 13 brave servicemembers killed in Afghanistan and abandoned hundreds of US citizens in Talibanland. It also allowed a Chinese spy balloom to traverse the country and attempted to cover up its very existence even though they knew about it before it passed over the continental US.

And much more.

Now, who's responsible for all that criminality and betrayal?

[Danzigdawson]

It's no longer a question of Biden/Trump, libtards vs. trumptards, conservatives v. liberals, dems v. GOP, right v. left, socialism vs. capitalism and so on. The increasingly senile old Trump is openly running to fight perceived (or real, whatever) dictatorship with dictatorship and censorship with censorship.

Biden has commited crimes? Great. Submit undeniable evidence, put him on trial and throw him in jail if he's guilty. Same for Obama, the Clintons and every other who is supposedly immune to prosecution according to the trumpists' fantasy world. But it has got to be the same as every other trial, major or not. The defendant is innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt, using undeniable evidence, by a court of law.

Isn't it clear by now that Trump is all about Trump and Trumpland? He couldn't give a shit less about the United States of America. The whole country, you, your neighbor, the world are just a means to an end.

"Meet my demands or there will be chaos", said Osama Bin Laden... or was it Trump who said something like that, just today?

[msc545]

Trump is now deteriorating rather rapidly. I think that in a few months it will become fairly obvious to almost everyone that he is very ill and certainly cannot hold any public office.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah I will predict Biden will be re elected with the less amount of votes ever.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

"deteriorating rather rapidly"

dude the man can literally finish a sentence when he talks, unlike mr Biden.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvA-Vf0MomM&t=9s

[msc545]

@Filthy_Immigrant He cannot even construct a coherent sentence.

[OddBeMe]

https://youtu.be/oGxjGJztet0

[msc545]

Those examples are old.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe he didn't stutter once! 😂😂😂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6-USQmdkyc

[msc545]

@Filthy_Immigrant None of this is diagnosti of anything. Biden has a speech problem he has had his whole life and this is not new. Trump has something unknown that IS new.

[DextroShade]

Are you seriously trying to argue that Trump is more demented than Biden? Anyone who has seen both of them speak recently knows that's bullshit.

[msc545]

You are not qualified to diagnose dementia. I am. I'm not going to argue about this with you because you literally do not know what you're talking about.

[DextroShade]

That's like saying I can't say the sky is blue because I am not a meteorologist, some things are just self-evident and Biden's obvious dementia is one of them.

[msc545]

@DextroShade Right. You know nothing at all about it apparently.

[DextroShade]

Are you as brain-dead as Biden or are you just in denial? He literally has to have aides tell him where to go and what to do, when to stand and when to sit. He has on multiple occasions ON CAMERA walked out to speak and said "They told me to say..." with a confused look in his eyes. No other president has ever been anywhere near this bad.

[msc545]

@DextroShade You know nothing about dementia.

[msc545]

I do neurodiagnostics for a living. I spent many years in school. Learning all about this. I am sure as hell not going to bother to argue the point with you since your knowledge of this is quite deficient.

[DextroShade]

You are full of shit.

[goaded]

Absolutely. There was maybe a week or two when they had a chance to clean up their act and get rid of him in 2021. More of them could have voted to convict in the Senate (57 senators voted guilty, remember), rather than making excuses while being in fear for their own and their families' lives.

Now, they're silent and hoping for the justice department to get rid of him for them and help with their re-election. And Trump is using the fact that he wasn't convicted in the senate to say that means he should have absolute immunity for everything he did while president, even though the most common excuse by senators was that it should be up to the justice system.

147 Republicans voted to reject perfectly valid election results in an attempt to keep Trump in office illegally. There's a reason he was being asked for pardons; innocent people don't need pardons.

If the courts grant absolute immunity to current presidents, I hope Biden has Trump and his 147 enablers shot. It wouldn't be illegal, he's president.

This is a farce. Nobody ever thought a president was above the law, that's why they're presidents and not kings.

[goaded]

And once he does that, pass a constitutional amendment making it totally clear that presidents will never again have immunity for crimes committed while president outside of their official duties. It would take a matter of weeks to get every state to ratify it.

Trump's lawyer just argued that a president could order the killing of a political rival and then either resign before impeachment or not even bother if they have 34 senators who can be relied on not to vote to convict.

[OddBeMe]

Jesus Christ that seems to be the case. Presidents and rich people

[lightbulb27]

Democrats are responsible because all the things they've tried to destroy him have not worked. They'v been working on this now for...7+ years, cmon, try to be successful would ya? This is why most don't do actual work, they can't. Reference: Clintons, Obama, Biden. Harris may be only one did real work, renting out a building. Ok Clinton did real work with Epstein, probably.

They've actually made Trump stronger, it backfired. Meanwhile, while being responsible Democrats, their guy, whom is barely intelligible, has the worst poll ratings in history. Yikes... it's republicans fault there... they should have never let Democrats spend all that money, shame on them!

Democrats need to keep trying harder... trouble is... when going in the wrong direction... like forcing electric cars that people don't want, can't afford, nor believe in, it just makes the numbers worse.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

yes! unfortunately 90% of republicans are leftists as well hence why they are standing by and not doing shit while democrats continue to destroy our country. is like Martin Luther King once said "Those who do nothing while witnessing injustice and wrong-doing do worse than those who commit acts of injustice. ironically Martin Luther King was a republican himself

[Danzigdawson]

"Trump is the only possible chance" , "90% of republicans are not radical enough", "democrats are evil scum", "you have no choice".

That's not nazi talk at all.

[OddBeMe]

For some reason I suspect your social media is full of Nazi rhetoric despite your comparison.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe guess you’re far more retarded than I thought. Dude even if I wanted to be a Nazi they would never accept me for the fact that I’m knit white.

So I think you’re the real Nazi here, since it sound like you would take a bullet for the left

[Danzigdawson]

If there's one thing that the nazis sure did back in the day, it's take a bullet for the left... you know, them being the absolute self-proclaimed ideological enemy of marxism and communism.

Let's shout out one more insane declaration, just for the hell of it. Did you know that Hitler actually really; really loved Jewish culture and Jewish people?

Plus, did you know that if you really strip down the definition of socialism to the absolute basics, the nazis magically become socialists.

Example: nazism was a political ideology. Socialism is a political ideology. Thus, the nazis are socialists.

Example 2: a tree silhouette forms a shape. A cube is a shape. Thus, a tree is a cube.

[OddBeMe]

@Danzigdawson you guys should google “Right Wing Socialism” before it gets mor embarassing for you, if that’s possible.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternalistic_conservatism#

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe its never gonna get as embarrasing as it already has for you and every other libtard who refuses to see and accept the problem that YOUR president has and still is causing at the moment,

[Danzigdawson]

@OddBeMe Are you familiar with sarcasm? I'm NOT agreeing with this nazi turd.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Danzigdawson again I'm hispanic, therefore I will never be a nazi, you guys should really start your own gang and call yourselves the missinformed losers

and I'm still trying to figure out how socialism made it to this coversation cause last time I check Obama was a true socialist and wasn't Biden his vice president?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe I gotta say you are pretty good at making red herring statements. I’ll give you that one.

[Danzigdawson]

@Filthy_Immigrant You haven't figured out why socialism has made its way into the conversation...

I'll give you four months to figure out why. While you're at it, use that time to try to get the basic knowledge you need to even have a chance to make a point in this debate.

Also, you may want to google the Spanish civil war, Augusto Pinochet, neo-nazism in Chile and in Peru, and falangism.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Danzigdawson this post was about how mr @OddBeMe thought Trump was a shit show yet immidiately after he was proven wrong and got his skirt lifted he decided to go to

1) covid19
2) Spanish flu
3) neo nazism

and now all of the sudden 4) socialism. I guess changing the subject and throwin red herrings is the only way you leftists can ever feel victorious in an argument.

and now how the fuck did the Spanish war, Augusto whatever and random places in and random places in South America got here?

[Anonymous]

No, Hillary and the Democratic party/establishment is fully responsible for the situation were in with Trump. They are the one's who through the pied piper campaign, helped Trump win the Republican nomination thinking it would be an easy win. On top of helping Trump, they stole the primary from Sanders angering voters. Had the DNC not rigged the primary, Sanders who at the time was the most popular politician, would have won the primary to go on to beat Trump like poll after poll predicted. I will never forgive the Democratic party for giving US Trump cause "her turn" was more important then actually winning.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah…but Dems didn’t make Trump collude with Russians, use campaign money to pay off a porn star, or try to steal an election.

[Opinion Owner]

Trump did no collude with Russia, Russia bought a few Facebook ads that was it, if voters can be duped by some Facebook ads, we have some serious problems. This whole Trump colluded with Russia, was Hillary and the DNC using Russia as a scape goat to explain why Hillary lost instead of admitting she was a crappy candidate. Democratic party seceded in stealing the election twice in 2016 and 2020 when they stole the primary both times from Sanders. You Blue-MAGA's are no different then Red-MAGA's.

[OddBeMe]

Mmm…so the dozen Trump campaign officials who went to jail for conspiring with Russia doesn’t count? Trump tower meeting? Oval Office handoffs of classified documents to Russians?

[Opinion Owner]

"The special counsel found that Russia did interfere with the election, but “did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple efforts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.”

[OddBeMe]

So weird…I think you got the news wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oYbELj6KUU

[shortster]

His competitors are willing to pardon Trump because they know that the charges are BS. That anyone else would get a fine at most (for the documents). And just about every prominent Democrat has said worse things than Trump as far as stolen elections or inciting violence.

[OddBeMe]

Trying to think of any other president who gave Russia classified docs in the Oval….

[shortster]

That sounds like you have been reading too many Tom Clancy novels.

[normalice]

They are signaling that he must endorse the frontrunner if the republican plan to kick him off the ballots proves successful, because if republicans lose the white house he will go to prison for the rest of his life.

[Jersey2]

He didn’t do anything and he hasn’t even been indicted for the so-called Jan 6th. Case after case have been thrown out, its all just election interference to try and sway Independent voters but they are wise to the shenanigans.

[OddBeMe]

Case after case thrown out. What?

[goaded]

@Jersey2 What's it like, living in a bubble of propaganda?

Campaign funding trial, NY: March 25, 2024
Document mishandling case, FL: May 20, 2024
Jan 6 (and related crimes), DC: March 4, 2024
Georgia RICO case, GA: Not yet scheduled

Name a case against Trump that has actually been thrown out. There were about 60 of his cases after the election that were thrown out, mostly for being bullshit.

[Jersey2]

@goaded Did you miss the part I said about Jan 6th?

[Jersey2]

@goaded Here is a case that was dropped, Trump in the wrongful death of the Capital Police officer.

www.usatoday.com/.../

[goaded]

Did you miss the third trial?

The case you refer to was thrown out because "the couple had not officially registered as domestic partners in Washington, D. C.", not because there was no crime.

You said "Case after case have been thrown out". Next!

[Jersey2]

@goaded you asked me to name one, I did. Now F off.

[goaded]

LOL.

[exitseven]

The Republicans are the voice of reason and responsible government. Good jobs, low inflation, low gas prices, tax cuts, law and order and strong foreign policies are all things that Republicans want to bring back.

[sawno]

Responsible sure, but doesn't mean they have to do anything about it since Trump represents the majority of people.

[goaded]

No, he doesn't, otherwise he'd be president right now.

[sawno]

@goaded He was winning until the random ballot dumps and switches happened as windows were barred and people were urged to leave a polling place. There is no way you are going to convince me the election wasn't stolen.

[goaded]

Republicans, Trump and his supporters are still telling those lies, three years later.

Guiliani just lost a court case where he admitted that he'd outright lied about poll workers.

[sawno]

@goaded My source was footage from the ground on that day, as well as graphs as well as live broadcasts where numbers suddenly flipped. Its almost impossible to proof in court after the fact since they had to much cover up but that does not make me believe Jo Biden is a legitimate president. All the mass Fuck Jo Biden chants and his abysmol approval rate confirms it.

But we dont even have to argue about this, the polls favor Trump.

[goaded]

Every glitch and video was investigated and found to have a valid explanation. Doesn't it bother you that Guiliani lied to you? That doesn't make you wonder what other lies you've been fed?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded in case you are more retarded than I really thought he's not president now because the election was rigged. but dont worry is not gonna happen twice.

not like is any of your concern

[sawno]

@goaded How was the pizza boxes in front of Windows debunked? How was the water leak that didn't exist debunked?

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant You might think that. Doesn't make it true.

[OddBeMe]

@sawno Can you answer honestly…Would anything convince you 2020 wasn’t rigged?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded I should be telling you that cause apparently you are far more delusional and pack a lot of cognitive dissonance

[goaded]

@sawno "@goaded How was the pizza boxes in front of Windows debunked? How was the water leak that didn't exist debunked? "
Why don't you simply look it up?

www.nytimes.com/.../...ection-ballot-counting.html
twitter.com/.../1334950232526884873

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Ahem. "You might think that. Doesn't make it true."

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded based of the fact you dont live in America and are doing nothing put pulling thinks out your ass makes my last statement EXTREMELY true

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Except the things I say are backed up by actual evidence. Which is why, for example, Trump is looking at four trials this year.

[sawno]

@goaded The first link adds some plausibility but a video of them banging on the window would be more convincing. The second link doesn't proof anything since it was all about stalling tactics so enough ballots could be created, not about tampering with existing ballots.

[sawno]

@OddBeMe
At this point its to late for that, enough time has past to create fake evidence that it wasn't. Next election we will see if its fair. I also observed counts during the dutch elections since I care a lot, in the dutch elections even when the establishment party's won by a landslide instead of getting punished in the corona era I was there to witness a count and could not find any evidence of tampering in my local bureau which made it credible. In the dutch system all ballots are hand counted, with observers and the hand count is publically documented for every single bureau before before it ever touches a digital counting machine.

The US election on the other hand anomalies happened, such as mysterious ballot dumps that all got registered at the same time and only for Biden, voting was in Trump's favor until weird things happened later in the night where voting suddenly got postponed. I have seen footage of ballots being hidden under tables, I have seen the window blocking with pizza boxes even though goaded provided an alibi for that it still doesn't explain much of it since if its the sound people were complaining about you'd get those people removed instead of transparency blocked off. I have seen counts where poll watchers were not allowed to watch close enough to make a difference, I have seen video's of live statistics suddenly changing to where Trump had less votes and Biden had more votes. I have seen the big attendance of Trump ralley's while Biden had no energy in his, except for large groups of Trump supporters hackling him outside his one.

[goaded]

@sawno I have to echo @OddBeMe's question: "Would anything convince you 2020 wasn’t rigged?"

Every state's election authorities say it wasn't, Bill Barr said it wasn't, all the liars saying they had proof obviously didn't, what could possibly convince you?

It's not like Trump's going to admit it, although his (Republican) aides at the time knew he knew.

[sawno]

@goaded There is no point in echoing my answer.

[sawno]

Actually since I had to cut my last paragraph short due to gag limits ill re-post the conclusion, at this point nothing can convince me it was not rigged since to much time was past to allow tampering with the ballots. No audit at that point would have found anything, they know what they are doing.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded I'm sorry to break it to you but the bullshit you watch on CNN is not actual evidence. that's paid programming and propaganda so no, it seems like you must have the peter pan syndrome and believe everything you see on tv

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Ah, so anyone who disagrees with you must only get their news from CNN. Not, say, criminal indictments, court transctripts, swort testimony, etc.

None of that compares to Trump telling you something you want to hear.

[goaded]

@sawno Our postings overlapped. What about all the people who claimed to have proof of election fraud? What do you think happened to that?

Don't you think, perhaps, that they were making it up? Especially as nobody's challenged the very same ballots when Republican lawmakers or governors won.

Guiliani has been found guilty of making up lies about Georgia election officials (he even admitted he defamed them). Why do you believe anything he says?

There were thousands of ballots that were mostly Republican but against Trump. I suppose you think that was the Democrats being so sneaky that they barely scraped a 50-50 Senate to make it look like they hadn't cheated?

[sawno]

@goaded "Why do you believe anything he says?" I don't. I can take Mike Lindell as an example, he had the proof that the voting machines were indeed tampered with. So he showed us the proof over the course of multiple days, the encrypted traffic data! And he had a room full of cyber security experts that could independently verify the evidence. If that's not evidence I don't know what isn't right? Except of course he had absolute gibberish, none of the people he invited could verify it and he was basically conned himself into thinking he had something that he didn't.

So its not like I take their word for it, I go by what I have seen and if its not credible evidence I don't trust it.

But to take on your Senate argument, the way I see it Trump got more votes than they expected so it was all in on manufacturing and gathering votes and the fastest way they could do it was to vote for Biden. Those are the most suspicious votes, they were dumped in batches of only Biden votes. Somehow those voters didn't vote democrat all the way down leaving the other options blank. The only way that makes sense to me is if you are short on time.

[goaded]

Maybe if it had happened.

"No, Biden did not win more than 128,000 straight ballots in a single “ballot dump.” Biden’s total actually dropped because Decision Desk HQ found, and then corrected, an error in their data, the company said.

In the midst of that correction, someone switched the trajectory of these voting screenshots, making it look like Biden gained over 128,000 votes in a single ballot dump, when in actuality he “lost” those votes, because Decision Desk HQ was correcting an error from the state data in which Biden was erroneously assigned too many votes."
heavy.com/news/fact-check-biden-ballots-michigan/

So, there was a mistake, and there was a lie.

[OddBeMe]

@sawno Ok…so you trust elections in the Netherlands when you see one polling place in person. But not the 100s of audits conducted by republican authorities in red states?

[sawno]

I trust the dutch elections because of the way the votes were handled, people independently could report from their local polling places the result was authentic, and the entire system is water tight, we have Voter ID and can only vote in person, no mail in.

[OddBeMe]

What about the US elections do you not think that’s the case? Each polling place recorded accurately and sent it up the chain as the system calls for.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded I was using cnn as an example. Again all news networks are program to lie and misinformed the public and blind sheeples like you

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Yeah, except I don't watch CNN or any US media. I read criminal indictments, court transctripts, swort testimony, etc.

None of that compares to Trump telling you something you want to hear.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded those indictments you been reading are nothing but leftist propaganda.

And I don’t listen to what Trump wants me to believe I actually pay attention to his and the actions of his supporters

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Of course you can't tell the difference between fact and fiction. His actions and those of his supporters (including a dozen or so sentenced to decades in prison) were illegal.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded yeah that happen in your own parallel universe

[OddBeMe]

@Filthy_Immigrant this is a problem if you can’t discern what’s true. Trump is indicted. Biden ain’t.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe no shit retard, but that doesn’t mean that those who are indicting him are GOOD GUYS. Do you even know how fucking CORRUPTION works?

[OddBeMe]

@Filthy_Immigrant I do, I’m watching it being brought to justice…hopefully before you dumb fucks have a chance to make him president again.

Funny how he’d want immunity if he didn’t do anything wrong…
https://youtu.be/6ePTEyNMSDU

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe oh yea hold your breath on that

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant "that happen in your own parallel universe"? Wow.

"The Proud Boys' former leader Enrique Tarrio has been jailed for 22 years for orchestrating the attack on the US Capitol on 6 January 2021... convicted in May of seditious conspiracy, a rarely used charge of planning to overthrow the government, and multiple other counts"
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66712589

"Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years for Capitol riot.. convicted on charges of seditious conspiracy and other crimes."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65651998

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded what do those people got to do with Trump?

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Their seditious conspiracy was on his behalf. Their actions took place on the day he chose.

[sawno]

At this point wouldn't it be more logical to have the debate in DM's? I bet I had 100 notifications by now haha

[Juxtapose]

Yeah I watched how he said that and he was clearly being humorous. Way to show your Trump derangement syndrome xD

Meanwhile you completely ignore the numerous racist comments Joe Biden has made 🤣

[Juxtapose]

Trump or Vivek need to win. The Democrats are going to can Joe Biden by the time the primary deadline is passed so you're not going to get another Bernie Sanders on the left side.

[OddBeMe]

Need to? Why need to?

[milyjohn]

Trump is a genius. He threw out that tidbit about being a dictator, because he knew the left would twist it and make themselves look retarded.

I even heard Joe Biden twist it in a campaign ad.

My favorite was when Trump cleverly got Nancy Pelosi to defend the most ruthless gang in the world. The MS 13 gang. All Trump had to do is call them, animals, and ding dong. Nancy had to oppose him by defending the gang. Trump pointed out that they kill people with machetes cause it hurts worse than a bullet.

[Juxtapose]

@milyjohn yeah, TDS is still going strong!

[OddBeMe]

@milyjohn when you realize your cult is a hoax, please find the help you need. It’s out there.

[milyjohn]

I would love to be one of Trump's advisors.
I believe he has a rally tomorrow, and I hope to watch it.

"Ladies and gentlemen, walls are racist, right? Well at least that's what Nutty Nancy said. Heck, I can't keep up with the loons on the left. What do I know, maybe a loaf of white bread is racist? Heck, the loons on the left said that math is racist. They said science is racist. Hell, they even said that going to gyms and pursuing fitness, is racist. But Biden really sunk to a new low when he said that voter ID is racist, because black people aren't smart enough to get ID. Folks, let me tell ya, black people are much, much smarter than Joey thinks, and we'll see that on election day.

But if my wall is racist, why is sleepy Joe adding to it? Can you believe that? Joe is calling himself a racist. I feel so sorry for those dying from Fentanyl, and I feel sorry for their families. But Joe laughed about that. Folks, here's a grieving mother who lost to sons to Fentanyl. What type of person would laugh at that? He wants illegals staying in hotels, and our homeless vets sleeping on the street. I asked Joe to take a simple cognitive ability test, and he refused. But from what I've seen in the last three years... not taking the test was probably for the best."

[Drewtate]

What a surprise a Liberal & a democrat voter dislikes the democratic process

[OddBeMe]

And you received that view of me how?

[gorydetails]

How are republicans responsible for Biden's mess? you're hilarious.

[OddBeMe]

Actual mess…thinking…

Nope nothing but Covid which I could hit Trump with.

[gorydetails]

Out of control inflation and an invasion of illegals at the southern border doesn't rattle in your empty head?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@gorydetails we just entered 2024 and this tard is still concern about a problem that occured in 2020!

[OddBeMe]

My god…out of control invasion of illegals…still nothing.

Inflation caused by Covid mess, multiplied by Trumps lies.

[OddBeMe]

@Filthy_Immigrant Flu in 1918 took years to extinguish dumbass.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe can we argue about present problems please? till then the flu in 1918 was an actual pandemic, covid19 was not. so dont use the word dumbass with me buddy

[OddBeMe]

@Filthy_Immigrant Spanish Flu (originating Kansas City lol) only killed 650,000 Americans. And Covid killed over 1 million. Yet Covid isn’t a pandemic?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe Jesus dude you really live in the past.

but no it was not a pandemic it was a PLANDEMIC and in case you live under a rock there are worst things like cancer, heart diseases that kill millions of people daily.

[OddBeMe]

@Filthy_Immigrant At least I live in reality. Did 1 million Americans die from Covid?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe who the fuck saying nobody died? not saying those who died dont matter but again that is not the point!

Covid19 was planned by the democrats to steal the election

[gorydetails]

@Filthy_Immigrant NYC school children are being kicked out of their schools to house illegal immigrants and this idiot is still whining about Trump. That's all you need to know.

[OddBeMe]

@Filthy_Immigrant what makes a pandemic then? A virus kills 10s of millions around the world. And it’s not a pandemic?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe once again we got too many fucking to be worrying about now. Covid-19 is a thing of the past

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@gorydetails this guys has to dwell in the past just to get the W he after

[gorydetails]

@Filthy_Immigrant he forgets that biden killed more during covid than trump.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@gorydetails despite wasting almost $2 trillions o a useless vaccine

[gorydetails]

@Filthy_Immigrant exactly.

[OddBeMe]

Spamming your replies doesn’t make any of that shit true.

[RingOfFire]

...

[Dargil]

Regardless of any TDS. Are things better today than they were before the 2020 election?

[goaded]

Yes. A thousand people a day were dying of Covid and the unemployment rate was twice as high as it is now.

Also, Donald Trump is not POTUS and is about to stand trial for election interference (in two separate cases), for stealing and mishandling government documents in a massive hit to national security, and for breaking campaign finance rules.

[OddBeMe]

@goaded (mouthful) what he said.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded how was Covid Trump's fault? if anything MILLIONS of people die of worst things almost daily such as heart failure, cancer, car accidents and the list goes on and NO employment is not twice as high and if anything jobs when up under Biden because people decided to no longer take covid seriously and return to work after Biden cheated his way into office

"for stealing and mishandling government documents in a massive hit to national security, and for breaking campaign finance rules."

you mean what Biden has been doing since he got into office?

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Can you even read, let alone reason?

I never said covid was Trump's fault (although his reaction killed tens if not hundreds of thousands of Americans). People die all the time, why worry about a 9/11's worth of deaths every few days for a year?

Here's a maths lesson: If you cut a slice of cake in half and put one half with the rest of the cake, are you doubling the size of the rest of the cake? Take your time, then consider that halving unemployment is not the same thing as doubling employment.

I can't be bothered with the childish "I'm rubber..." nonsense.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded you did say thousands were dying compared to now, implying that Biden somehow was the hero that stopped that. and what reactions are we talking about? cause the man tried to do a lot of things to control the situation yet democrats kept dismissing everything he tried in his book.

and again you are not even live in America so how the fuck you know employment is that high here? so take your cake and eat it somewhere else.

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant The question was: "Are things better today than they were before the 2020 election?"
I answered truthfully, and reminded people what the situation was back then.

What do you think Trump did to try "to do a lot of things to control the situation"? Trump waited until July to be seen wearing a mask, although he'd been wearing one in private for months.

"how the fuck you know"
Because I can read.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded FUCK NO! thinks are a fucking shit show now compared to how they were in 2020. aside from covid19 the economy was A LOT better back in 2020 and inflation and gas prices was not through the roof and Trump was not sending OUR hard earn money to Ukraine and other countries.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded and no Trump tried to close down flights and ships that were coming in and out of China aka the place where Covid19 was born and democrats did not allow him cause according to them that was RACIST

till then can we focus on the present and not worry about Covid19 since the whole world know by now that covid19 was staged

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant What do you think the inflation rate is in the US today? It's 3.1% for the 12 months ending last November. New figures will be out in a couple of days. That's inflation that's under control and without having to put massive of people out of work.
www.usinflationcalculator.com/.../

"While the current national average of $3.08 is a far cry from the 2023 peak of $3.90 a gallon, it’s still slightly higher than the average cost of gas since 2018: $3.01 a gallon.

This means you’re paying about $0.08 more at the pump in 2024 than the national average since 2018."
www.finder.com/gas-prices

www.politifact.com/.../

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded nope those facts are way off. I should know cause I live in America and I spent money here

[exitseven]

They are much worse. I never saw suchj a big decline in standard of living in my lifetime. It was really less than two years that it was apparent that we were in big trouble.

[exitseven]

@goaded the fake news never said so but the Covid deaths were worse when Biden was president and there was a vaccine and doctors had more experience in treating the disease.

www.wsj.com/.../bidens-covid-death-milestone-biden-administration-trump-11637708781

The unemployment rate was high because Trump had to shut the economy down. The economy was in such good shape when it was closed it recovered very rapidly. It was called a "V" shaped recovery.

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant We've established you're not great at maths. Prices don't go down again, even if inflation comes down to reasonable levels. For that you'd need deflation (negative inflation), which is bad for the economy.

[goaded]

@exitseven Biden started 2021 with half a million infected Americans; Trump started 2020 with zero infected Americans.

Nice to see you admit that Trump shut the economy down. Some day you might admit that the improving economy was inherited from Obama, who inherited a recession from Bush.

[exitseven]

@goaded No, the virus was getting started in 2019. It did take a few months before it was a thing in the US. If you can remember when Trump was in office CNN had a graphic in the corner of the screen that kept count of how many people were infected and how many people have died from Covid. Every day was another "Grim Milestone" . This graphic somehow magically disappeared as soon as Biden became president. And the "Grim Milestone" of Covid deaths that eclipsed the number of Covid deaths when Trump was president was never mentioned. When Trump was president nobody really knew much about the virus. It was unclear how it was transmitted and there was no reliable protocol to follow for a treatment. Doctors just treated the symptoms and hoped for the best.
When Biden was elected there was a vaccine and there were other treatments as well. The virus had also mutated to a form that was more contagious but less deadly. Biden botched the rollout of the vaccine and continued the lockdowns which caused irreparable harm to young people.

[goaded]

@exitseven 438 thousand by 20 Jan 2021, doubled by mid Jan 2022.

How did Biden "botch" the rollout of vaccines? I've never seen anyone say that. It takes time to get millions of people vaccinated, and nutcases refusing them didn't help.

"After I promised we would get 100 million Covid-19 shots into people's arms in 100 days, we will have provided over 220 million Covid shots in those 100 days," Joe Biden

I made a mistake before. Biden came into office with nearly 7 million infected Americans. (Again, 2020 started at zero.)

Here's how the media ignored the grim milestone of one million US covid deaths:

www.nbcnews.com/.../covids-toll-us-reaches-1-million-deaths-unfathomable-number-rcna22105
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61301910
www.cnn.com/.../index.html
www.nytimes.com/.../covid-one-million-deaths.html
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-30077-1
abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=83863055
www.aarp.org/.../one-million-covid-deaths.html
www.npr.org/.../us-one-million-deaths
www.usatoday.com/.../
www.washingtonpost.com/.../

[exitseven]

@goaded Biden started by trying to make sure minorities skipped to the front of the line to get vaccinated. Then he mandated that people get vaccinated or lose their jobs. Then he made it so if people got fired for refusing to have an untested vaccine put into their bodies they could not collect unemployment. By that time there was so many lies and conflicting stories that the public could no longer trust the government. People were skeptical about the effectiveness of the vaccine and since people who were vaccinated still had to wear masks there was no real incentive to go along with the risk.

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven even if that were true, which it’s not…the vaccine stopped the pandemic. Why shouldn’t we have had a hard line? To save lives?

[exitseven]

This is America. Florida had one of the best outcomes against Covid. DeSantis vaccinated the elderly first instead of putting infected people into the same nursing home as healthy people. He did not fire anyone for not getting vaccinated and left it up to the individual. The vaccination rate in Florida was higher than most. Hecalsp prevented the long term lockdowns of schools. This will be reflected in future SAT scores.

[goaded]

@exitseven I hate to break it to you, but Florida is the 8th worst state for covid deaths, after 7 other right-wing states, 10,000 more deaths than comparably sized New York that was hit early on.

Picking a random date, 21 Jan 2021, New York had almost 40,000 covid deaths. Florida had 65,000. In 2023, NY: 7,088, FL: 8821.

[goaded]

*since 21 Jan 2021

[exitseven]

@goaded it depends where you found that statistic. It was actually one of the best states. They did much better with hospitalizations and deaths than California and new york.

[goaded]

@exitseven No. They didn't. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded so actual inflation is a good thing for you? Dude your patheticness has no limits

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant No, it's just a fact.

[goaded]

@exitseven In fact, if Florida were a country, it would also be #8 in deaths per million from covid. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Inflation is a fact of life, idiot. It has never been 0% ever. The lowest it's been in over 50 years is 0.66% under Obama.

fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CORESTICKM159SFRBATL

[Filthy_Immigrant]

I never said it was the lowest ever under trump stupid genius. However it can’t be a coincidence that it skyrocketed

[Filthy_Immigrant]

Overnight under Biden @goaded

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant In the aftermath of a pandemic, and worldwide.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded you mean PLANdemic. And that was 4 years ago so let’s refrain from bitching about problems in the past and world wide or not that isn’t our fucking problem

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant No, that's just stupid propaganda you've fallen for.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded the pot calls the kettle black huh?

the democrats created covid19 to keep us all worry and distracted just so they can steal the election without getting their hands dirty hence why they are suddenly trying to bring back the covid19 mandates again this year because for some odd reason covid19 only becomes a pandemic during the election time, ain't that some coincidence?

but dont worry, at least we Americans are not that stupid anymore and we non of us are falling for the same trick twice

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Your comments suggest that that comment is incorrect in many cases. Don't be so bloody parochial, the whole world would have had to have gone along with the US Democratic party, including enemies of the US.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded yeah you really dont know who the global elites are and how they work huh?

[Sevenpointfive]

you can't trust anyone in gov't. political scientists and anyone who runs are corrupt!

[SolitarySolace]

It is time for a new generation. Vivek Ramaswamy will be our next president

[Surely]

You forgot a word! “Dictator ONLY on day one!” Close the border and drill baby drill!

[Anonymous]

Well, whose to blame when Trump yelled to his followers, stop the steal, they went to the Capitol and tried to kill people.

[QuietRunner]

Well, no one has gone back in chains. So they are doing something correct

[OddBeMe]

Such a low bar.

[Anonymous]

Sure but will the Democrats be responsible for the BCS

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

No hell no.