Speaker of the House thinks feminism causes mass shootings?

[OddBeMe]

That’s crazy

It’s true

A total of 29 votes were cast: 6 girls and 23 guys. See detailed results

[dustybiker2]

America is great. People will say what people want to hear simply to get votes, even if they do not believe it themselves.

[OddBeMe]

He seemed to beleive it in that clip. Same as assholes here.

[dustybiker2]

When you hear and see things on 🦊 and the likes loop.. you come to believe anything. Learned belief.

[OddBeMe]

Certainly do. I mean, I know all women be crazy. That was def learned homey. Lol

[dustybiker2]

•hands you a remote control and a snickers•

[Roxilicious]

I haven’t even watch the video, but I already know there’s like no correlation because what

[strateguy632]

as usual NOBODY listens until the end, taken out of context is the question. (except reply by solitary here)

he didn't say as asker lied "feminism caused murder" he said feminism caused chaos, specified: people believed 'no "wrong" that "no wrong" caused mass murder. shooter tells himself, who said it is wrong?

like this picture here with an idea i oppose.

naive can't believe that atheism allows everything no sins

criminals RELY on atheism, nobody will punish me. or "no wrong" as in the picture.

[OddBeMe]

Whatever the order of logic, it’s still a logical fallacy.

[goaded]

What kind of idiot thinks not believing in a god means you can't understand right and wrong? History is replete with people performing terrible acts because they think their religion justifies them.

[loveslongnails]

Logic lesson boys and girls:
" Some mass shootings are done by angry men"
" Feminism makes some men angry"; therefore,
" Feminism causes some mass shootings".

Now take this proposition to your nearest high school or college where a class is offered in logic, and hand it to the professor. Watch them laugh, then ask them to explain it. Do you see precisely where the flaw is?

This is akin to saying; " All serial killers were either breast fed or given formula as a child, therefore milk causes serial killings."

[strateguy632]

good point, but not the content of the video and whoever was talking.

[OddBeMe]

Your logic is so basic you’d also blame blacks for the KKK.

[Anonymous]

I'm convinced today's feminism is one small piece of that puzzle, but it's really just part of a much bigger problem that is the underlying cause of things like mass shootings and so many other societal ills.

[OddBeMe]

I mean I guess like civil rights is why racists kill. But we can't put the blame on that.

[slatyb]

They are cases by a combination of alienated men who have access to powerful weapons.

[goaded]

Exactly. Every country has rejected young men, not every country arms them with military weapons.

[OddBeMe]

Yes. And we Americans are just rationalizing against prioritizing lives over access to firearms. I don’t get it. Especially since Europe isn’t devoid of guns. You can get a gun in any euro country I expect. Must takes more.

[slatyb]

Perhaps, but you can't get an assault rifle.

[goaded]

Amazingly, you can, even in the UK, get an AR-15, or more. You just have a good reason to own one ("I'm scared" doesn't count) and spend ages proving you're not going to be stupid with it. No wandering into your local Walmart to buy one.

www.businessinsider.com/guns-you-can-legally-buy-in-the-uk-2016-4

[goaded]

What was wrong with the old days, when women were owned by their fathers or husbands? You know, the 1970s.

[OddBeMe]

I miss the Victorian days when I could sell my kid for a pint.

[AngryCarl]

@goaded Your dad owned your mum? That's messed up.

[goaded]

@AngryCarl Yeah, I might have exaggerated somewhat! :) But women couldn't get a bank account without the permission of their husband in the US until 1974. You have to go further back, to the first half of the 19th century to when married women "had no right to their money, land or bodies". Women and girls are still being sold into marriage in some countries.

www.forbes.com/.../

[goaded]

@AngryCarl As if by magic: fox4kc.com/.../

[SolitarySolace]

Sounds about right. No fault divorce laws, the Sexual revolution, radical feminism and legalized abortion have taught that there is no such thing as right and wrong and that people, women, should just do whatever the fuck they want without any fear of being reprimanded

[msc545]

Well of course we have to remember that according to them women are responsible for nothing bad and are accountable for absolutely nothing. It's all the fault of men as usual according to women.

[SolitarySolace]

Exactly. Yet everyone still defends women probably because of the evolutionary psychology of, if women die society fails

[msc545]

I'm not entirely sure this is wrong. Feminism causes women to treat men like shit. Men who are treated like shit by women are angry and school shootings are usually done by angry men. I'm not sure the correlations completely hold up, but to some extent I believe this is correct.

[OddBeMe]

I will posit most mass shooters never have spoken a single word to a woman.

[msc545]

I think you were wrong about this. A lot of very angry men got that way as a result of speaking to women. Or conversely as a result of women speaking to them or not doing so.

[OddBeMe]

Perhaps but I stand by hypothesis when the shooter is a teen or young 20s white male. That seems to be a pattern of inceldom along with (crazily enough) child phorn.

[slatyb]

You are blinking the victims. Outside the US these events don't occur because powerful weapons are difficult or impossible to obtain.

[msc545]

Incels are by definition the result of female scorn and indifference.

[OddBeMe]

@msc545 So feminism caused inceldom…. like civil rights caused the KkK. Seems a bit off.

[msc545]

@OddBeMe it seems a bit off to me too, but it's 3:00 in the morning here and I really can't make a better connection. I'm too sleepy. I'll check back with us tomorrow. But for right now what I said stands.

[OddBeMe]

I get the implications (always sunny pun) and see feminism connected as a reason but not cause.

Get some sleep homey!

[msc545]

So what do you think the cause is? Maybe it's a combination of bad genetics making for an ugly face or short body combined with the female reaction to that which is typically abusive, scorn and rejection...

[KrakenAttackin]

@msc545. Let's add that pretty much every serial killer of women was raised by a treacherous single mother.

[msc545]

@KrakenAttackin yep!

[OtterMan68]

weak men blame others, especially women, for the faults of other weak men. These men prefer the days where women had a hard time getting divorced and were barefoot and pregnant. They would like to go back to the 1690s

[OddBeMe]

Agreed. Like anti immigrants are afraid to compete with brown people for jobs.

[katiesmuff]

Words from a pathetic bible busting Louisiana Hillbilly!

[exitseven]

He is a very traditional person. I think that a culture that goes against thousands of years of evolution is bound to cause unintended consequences

[OddBeMe]

So I guess it’s just what we consider a “cause”. Sure women could be a cause of men killing. But so is easy access to guns. And no mental health resources.

[exitseven]

It is mostly a function of society as a whole. I think mostly it is because people have to work two jobs to pay their bills and they do not have a voice in their lives. They feel nobody is listening to their plight thay end up getting a gun and shooting up an elementary school. Too bed they are aiming at the wrong target.

[AngryCarl]

If by feminism you mean women not wanting to have sex with dysfunctional jerks, then yes that's part of the problem.

Otherwise no. Women wanting to have a life isn't responsible for giving lunatics easy access to firearms.

[AngryCarl]

In case it's not obvious, video was TL;DW.

[OddBeMe]

Didn’t miss much. Obnoxious preaching.

So many here blaming chicks for murderous men. That like blaming blacks for KkK

[RavVid]

How many times do feminist have to say they want all men to die before we believe them huh?

[OddBeMe]

How many feminists commit murder?
How many men commit murder? Oh…

I guess those who actually want people to die act on it.

[RavVid]

:) :)

[Snakeyes7]

@OddBeMe Feminists don't need to. All they need to is make men feel that their existence perpetuates a society that harms women and they will do it to themselves the overwhelming majority of the time. In the very, VERY rare occasion a man would lash out and that only strengthens the feminist message.

They both do actually, because they pass the latter off to be "they just don't want to share their feelings" aka toxic masculinity. It is their way of saying that they aren't acting like human beings because they want everyone to think that the practice of stoicism is the erasure of emotions where, in reality, it is just another word for self-discipline.

As a result of this erasure of the original meaning, any attempts for a man to go and get help, he gets told just stay down and accept these negative messages instead of getting guidance on how to get up, brush himself off and try again. Leading to more suicides.

[Snakeyes7]

*former not latter

[OddBeMe]

@Snakeyes7 “make men feel”…. boo fucking hoo. Talk about snowflakes. You fucks are the worst.

[Snakeyes7]

You talk so much shit against Nazis yet you can't even tell a Nazi-like ideology if it bit you in the dick.

[gorydetails]

Ah, Just like the sun coming up each day, odd be me posting some bullshit lies are something you can depend on.

[OddBeMe]

Just like Joel missing perspective, the sun doesn’t come up. The earth rotates.

[gorydetails]

Reaching for that one.

[OddBeMe]

Oh? Dont believe the earth rotates?

[gorydetails]

I don’t believe you have an honest cell in your body.

[Sevenpointfive]

i do think feminisism causes suicide. but mike is a pussy that needs to go

[OddBeMe]

Women have been causing men distress since Eve got us kicked out of Eden. Bitch.

[Sevenpointfive]

no doubt. life is a bitch

[OddBeMe]

It’d be better if all women disappeared and we just fucked each other bruh.

[Sevenpointfive]

well i guess. do you have condoms? i don't want to get you pregnant

[OddBeMe]

Dude it’s your vagina. Why do I have to shell out for rubbers? I hate em anyway.

[Sevenpointfive]

i don't have one. but i don't have a rubber either. i like to bareback

[laly520]

jesus christ..

[Still-alive]

lmao

[OddBeMe]

@Still-alive that’s how it starts.

[Still-alive]

Yup just give the incels more reason to get out there and murder people...

[OddBeMe]

Women should be blamed for everything. Your skirts too short so I’ll harass you! Lol

[Juxtapose]

Nah, gangsters do. The Crips & the Bloods aren't feminists.

[OddBeMe]

Gang violence or criminal use is a slice. But so is domestic violence.

[Juxtapose]

"most violent crime is committed by repeat offenders. Dealing with recidivism is key to solving violence.

71% of gunshot victims had previous arrest records.
64% had been convicted of a crime.
Victims had an average of 11 prior arrests. 1, 2
63% of victims had criminal histories and 73% of that group knew their assailant (twice as often as victims without criminal histories). 3
74% of homicides during the commission of a felony involve guns. 4
Only 25% of victims and 13% of perps did not show any evidence of engaging in criminal/deviant lifestyles (i. e., prior arrests, gang mem­bership, and/or drug dealing) prior the homicide. 5
Recidivism is exceptionally high among criminals with previous gun-related charges, 70% higher than for non-gun first offenders. 6
Most gun violence is between criminals with collateral damage. This should be the public policy focus."

www.gunfacts.info/.../#note-93-5

[DarkLegacy]

Yes they do because they cause the incels who are behind a lot of mass shootings.

[Anonymous]

He's not wrong, but I wouldn't expect a woman like you to have the honesty to acknowledge that.

[OddBeMe]

I’ll have the honesty to entertain your reasoning. Because his are an actual logical fallacy.

[Pohjolan]

Funny thing is that cold war era republicans would have considered the guy a commie for aiding the reds.

[Anonymous]

There is a lot missing from the Rube Goldberg machine but I am inclined to agree with him.