Immigration camps or student loan debt?

[OddBeMe]

Pretty good sample of each presidency.

Immigration camps

Student loan debt

[Dargil]

47 should send in a Marine Recon expeditionary force south of the border and create the camps in Mexico. OK with committing some tax dollars to it but the inmates will be free to leave. The border wall should be seamless and impenetrable in that region. Better than summary execution, don't you think?

[gorydetails]

So one bankrupts the country and forces poor people to pay for wealthy people’s college and the other wants a secure border. I’ll take the latter.

[OddBeMe]

There you go.

Student debt is poor people’s debt, just fyi.

[gorydetails]

Student debt is middle-to-upper middle class debt.

[OddBeMe]

No…actually a large percent are students who never graduate. Becuase they’re mired in debt. Their parents may be middle class but those are who you’re seeing at coffee bars serving cappuccinos.

The actual degree holders will be upper middle class once their career starts. And we get a lot of bitching about having a degree and still bartending…. but they will eventually find jobs. And prob be able to pay back the debt.

Stats are solid.

[Juxtapose]

Having the attitude that everyone should be cycled through college is just going to make college degrees worthless and you can't even see it.

[goaded]

Wealthy people don't need to take out loans to go to college.

[gorydetails]

@goaded thanks for showing you know nothing.

@OddBeMe If you think people don’t graduate when college costs money wait what happens when it’s “free”

[OddBeMe]

1. Wouldn’t be free. Biden is just easing debts. Although we should offer free tuition to the poor.
2. And if they fail…? What’s the big deal? How many other pork barrels we waste money on? College at least has proven stats to show ROI.

[gorydetails]

You twats think Ukraine needs that money.

[OddBeMe]

They literally do, like Israel, to fight off belligerent nations. One that’s committed a number of actual war crimes. FYI.

I don’t like HOW Israel is doing it, but they are constantly fighting with a cult that wants to kill them all. Same for Ukraine.

[Juxtapose]

Yeah but that's not our problem.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose neither was WW2.

[gorydetails]

Lol, so shut the fuck up about no money for college

[OddBeMe]

Why? You two got your asses handed to you. Not really, I just politely corrected you fucks.

[Juxtapose]

You literally said world war II was not our problem and then we got attacked. It actually was our problem.

[Juxtapose]

These conflicts overseas are not going to lead to us being attacked, especially if we keep to ourselves and stop this world policing bullshit.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose (Sigh) Hitler “wasn’t” America’s problem. But were you FDR would you go to war on him?

[Juxtapose]

If I was in charge then the military would be withdrawn from overseas and they would be stationed at the borders. All that military money would be spent for some kind of automatic defense system that would shoot down missiles and other type of things. I would also rigorously train citizens in firearms in public schools and make America a huge pain in the ass to invade.

[Juxtapose]

Also our defenses against emps are fucking terrible and numerous other things we are ill prepared for. I would shore up those defenses.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose glad you aren’t in charge. The bases, majority I know about keeps our Allies from arming themselves. “Read Guns August” about WW1.

Defense spending is out of control…just being used for pork parred spending by Congress.

[Juxtapose]

You're not a very good ally if you don't want your allies to be armed.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose opinion. But they don’t want to pay for a large army either. They like America being the world’s police. And we get a lot of perks from doing it. Not to mention keeping WW3 from happening.

I’d much rather just watch my YouTube docs on WW2 than worry about armed conflict in Europe again.

[msc545]

Checked the wrong one. Should have been Student Loan Debt.

[OddBeMe]

Damn you! Dont do that at the ballot!

Lol

[strateguy632]

that is cherry picking.

how about BIDEN national debt and open border...

or adding to the wall. Pretty good and BETTER sample of each presidency.

[Sevenpointfive]

you give them free education, so why not us?

[Juxtapose]

I don't even think they should be given a camp to rest in, it should be a straight trip out of here.

[_piotr]

Both are important, but deportations camps first.

[OddBeMe]

Mmm…don’t you think deportation is the dumbest circle jerk our government does? They come back after deported. To solve the problem we have to solve their demand.

Either fix their countries of origins to stem the flow of migrants, or accept the migrants and tax the shit out of the them.

[_piotr]

You can't tax them. They are illegal, out of government scope. And even if you would do that, they can't pay anything, they came to take, not to give. You can't fix their countries, because those are independent countries and are not under USA jurisdiction.

Deport and build wall! <- That is an answer!!!