Is eugenics and euthanasia a modern concern and is it more conservative or liberal rich elite that promote it?

[WilliamPamer446]

Back in old days, pagan/naturalist elites promoted it. Scientific engineering, satanic basically. Dehumanized people with mental challenges, people different races.

I have spiritual and political theories, but I don't wanna be labeled a conspiracy theorist. They wanted to engineer them

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Bonus point: in the modern world, who would it effect? Who would propose it and how? It would be manipulated as something positive in the media?

[NamerOfStars]

"Satanic"? It's "Satanic" to prop up research into mental conditions and physical disorders and allow handicapped people to survive infancy? It's worse to let people live and allow them to choose when to end their lives than to simply kill them as babies? If defying survival of the fittest in the name of compassion is the work of Satan, then who the hell are YOU backing, that thinks Satan is soft on weakness?

Euthanasia is a modern concern only because it's only IN the modern era that we're able to keep people alive long enough for it to be an issue. The formal, institutionalized forms that you see in Canada and Switzerland are promoted by liberals; the "starve to death on the street" forms that you see everywhere else are promoted by conservatives.

[WilliamPamer446]

It's wrong to force someone to die. I'm autistic and I want to live.

Let's talk about the painful diseases, bt survival of the Fittest is not a justification for killing someone.

[NamerOfStars]

I concur- that's why I'm glad we have the scientific engineering that lets people like you, and people far more needy, like Stephen Hawking, live. How is that Satanic?

[WilliamPamer446]

I didn't say all science was bad. Science engineering however is harmful in many aspect sometime. You overwhelmed me because in many ways it was used to harm people in the past. Is a nuanced topic and you can't see that. Science engineering is unnatural, and elites abuse it. people are talking about euthanasia for autistic people & people with disabilities.

[NamerOfStars]

Your oversimplifying doesn't help; that engineering is the only reason autism is seen as a medical condition and not the result of your having been replaced by a fairy changeling. It does a LOT more good than bad.

[WilliamPamer446]

You are over reacting. I wasn't over simplifying. I was seeing nuance, you weren't. I said science can be good and bad. Engineering in the context of euthanasia and eugenics is questionable

[NamerOfStars]

You called it satanic and said it's "unnatural". So is the internet, eyeglasses, and living past forty as a matter of routine. You were absolutely oversimplifying- and now you're DARVOing. *I* said science can be good and bad; you evidently disagreed.

Do you think I can't read what you wrote? That it's not visible to me, displayed on the same screen I'm typing this on?

[DryGermanGuy]

Nobody is "promoting" this Nazi shit since 1945. It's right up there with any Qanon Pizzagate fantasies.

[WilliamPamer446]

Euthanasia is definitely promoted and eugenics is subtle and alt right people propose it all the time but they don't have much influenc

[Dargil]

Liberals/Socialists because of "free" medical care. When Grandma ages out or needs an expensive procedure, they will snuff her.

[WilliamPamer446]

I'm a libertarian and I agree with systematic or individual abuses in elder homes. My grandma lives in a place, I don't know what to call it. They don't seem to be like that and wonder if that could happen someday. What