Have they gone too far?

[exitseven]

The Boy Scouts of America is changing it'd name to Scouting America to sound more inclusive. Do you think that their membership will decrease?

Be Prepared

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Nah. They were already bleeding numbers and money thanks to all the sexual assault cases against leaders in the boy scouts and the premise of the LDS who had a part for the longest time. Now with the LDS giving up their shares of the scouts and allowing more kinds of members, it becomes more inclusive and gives girls a chance to become Eagle scouts. This is bound to increase their numbers. Maybe not enough to save the organization, but right now it has a negative aura surrounding it. This should help.

[CriticalCatDad]

Won't help the sexism towards the boys

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

What sexism?

[CriticalCatDad]

Boys have to put up with girls in an organization meant for boys but girls don't have to worry about having boys in their organization meant for girls? That's sexism

[CriticalCatDad]

Why can't boys have their own thing? Why do girls have to take over everything meant for boys?

[CriticalCatDad]

If girls get to have their own shit boys should be able to have their own shit without girls being involved

[CriticalCatDad]

Just make a 3rd organization. Keep the boys scouts for the boys and the girl scouts for the girls and make a 3rd for both be an option. That way it's up to the child whether they want to be involved with both boys and girls or just boys if they're a boy or just girls if they're a girl. Why take away something meant for boys?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I don't think you understand. Without new members there won't be a boy scouts anymore. They are losing members faster than they can replace them. This isn't about girls encroaching on boys territory. It's about the survival of the scouts in general.

[CriticalCatDad]

Than let it die don't put girls in it. For the love of God DEI is making the country worse for the last 4 years! Having girls in the boy scouts will just turn the boy scouts into another girl scouts and they already have a scouts organization!

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

It's not DEI, it's about the survival of the scouts. They put themselves in this mess. Letting it die gives boys nothing while the girl scouts will still continue to thrive. That's like cutting off your nose just to spite your face.

Let them try to survive how they can.

[CriticalCatDad]

There will not be a boy scouts if there are more girls in the BOY scouts...

[CriticalCatDad]

But whatever. Boys don't matter same as how men don't matter just let the girls take over the boy scouts there's no need for a boy scouts in a woman's world anyway

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

It's not the boy scouts anymore, it's Scouts America. Boys can still join and learn the same things they always have. They just have girls learning along with them now.

[CriticalCatDad]

Fuck the girls theyve ruined everything

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Scouts ruined themselves. Now they are turning to women/girls to save them, as usual.

[exitseven]

@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 So it is about money,?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Without it, the business goes under. I'm sure if they could have kept it just boys they would have. With them losing members, that means less operating money. So they allow for more members to join. They don't really have a good revenue source like girl scouts do with their cookies.

[exitseven]

Yes, we bought Girl scout cookies from a neighborhood kid and I think they were 7 bucks a box

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Yeah girl scouts make something like 800 million on those cookies and Forbes is predicting 1 billion in sales for 2024. It's insane how profitable they are. Boy scouts have nothing like that so they need memberships to stay profitable

[CriticalCatDad]

Most people I know turn down girl schout cookies so I don't know where these dimwitted girls are getting their money probably from the democrats

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Your gimmick is kind of lame tbh.

[JacobJordan]

I wouldn't send my son to scouts America because it is meant to be Boy scouts. Girls have their version they can go their. If the Boy scouts goes under that is fine. Women invaded gyms where men resided and destroyed gyms with there cameras, false accusations and other bullshit. As you say "scouts america" yeah that program is dead and will only get worse because of inclusiveness. Every area of the US that has taken an inclusive approach has failed, fallen apart, been destroyed. Gyms have had to start banning cameras and recording and pictures and even some gyms returned to male only policy because of toxic women. The same way women have their spaces and should continue to have them men have their spaces and should not have to suffer further degradation at the hands of this woke liberal garbage.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Since your reading comprehension seems to be lacking, I'll reiterate it for you, this isn't fully meant to be a diversity and inclusion thing. It's being marketed as that because saying "we screwed up so badly by letting pedophiles be leaders" doesn't sound as good. This is strictly to get their numbers up because they don't have a money maker like girl scouts do. They rely on memberships.

[JacobJordan]

Memberships that have been declining because the world is becoming more digital you have absolutely no understanding of what you are talking about.

[exitseven]

@JacobJordan I have been a gym rst almost my whole life. I started out at a mens only gym. When it went out of business I joined a new place and it was co-ed. I never saw anybody have a problem with a female member. Maybe because I always pick a gym that has hardcore members that are there to workout and not use the gym as a dating bar.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

apnews.com/.../boys-scouts-new-president-bankruptcy-516869e181513c073ac7edc139ad48d3

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Educate yourself. It's the sex scandal amongst other things.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

@exitseven This guy has no idea what he's talking about. Just needs a reason to hate on women and girls so he makes things up

[JacobJordan]

@exitseven Not surprising. You picked a good location. A lot of people pick what is affordable or close. Hence the hundreds of videos of women ruining gyms. Hasn't seemed to be popping up as much recently though. Likely a result of banning cameras/recording devices.

[JacobJordan]

Lol married with 3 children 2 of them girls. No dumb bitch I don't hate women nor do I need a reason. I am just not a modern retard that thinks private spaces should be opened up for every mentally disturbed individual who wants to feel included and have an easier path to rape or assault or sexually assault people. I think women's spaces should be women's spaces. Men's spaces should be men's spaces. It is a very simple concept. A concept even my 6 year old understands. Asked her if she heard of boy scouts and girl scouts she said "yeah boy scouts is for boys and girl scouts is for girls." So a 6 year old understands this and you a 44 year old woman doesn't. That is embarrassing when a 6 year old is smarter than a full grown adult. Also unlike you I do know what I am talking about. Boy scouts have been getting less and less applicants because the world is becoming more digital and less nature focused. One of the primary reasons little boys joined the boy scouts was because of what it taught you about nature. Now though any child can type "learning about nature" into YouTube and have a billion hours of content. If any random clown can learn any given subject off YouTube and Google searches it makes sense why so many areas that were once important and useful have become unimportant and useless.

[exitseven]

@JacobJordan hey, no need to. be nasty. Everybody has an opinion. Everone has different experiences

[JacobJordan]

That isn't nasty that is treating someone how they act. Only a bitch would accuse someone of "needing a reason to hate women" and "making up lies"

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

It's fine. He's just proving my point. You said no, that's not what is happening, and he didn't go all in on you. I said it and I'm supposedly a "dumb bitch". He hates women even if he is surrounded with them. Maybe that's why he hates them so much. He hates being proven wrong by one, and it must happen a lot at home. Even by his 6 year old, I'm betting.

[JacobJordan]

You are wrong lol you proved what the boy scouts is losing money? Something their was never being disputed. Of course they are losing money the world is more digital now. Boy scouts and tech have never gone together. How you failed to realize this when formulating you hilariously stupid assumptions is beyond me. But you know what they say never argue with a stupid person they are masters of combining things that have no correlation. Now bye bye

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

And yet you've provided no proof of your hypothesis. I'm not saying that technology hasn't played a part, but to say it's the main reason is laughable. Boy scouts have been losing numbers in way greater percentages than girl scouts. They both have access to technology, so why the difference? It's because of the sex scandals and people not wanting to risk their kids to pedophiles. It's the same thing that's happening to churches.

Feel free to not comment back, but chances are you, unfortunately, probably will because you seem to be a glutton for punishment.

[JacobJordan]

"It's the same thing that's happening to churches" and yet Christianity, Islam and Hinduism make up apx 75% of the world's population. But yeah they are "losing people" like I said stupid people are masters of combining things that don't correlate thanks for proving my point. Far easier than I thought it would be to make you show how dumb you are. Took a single message.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

See? I knew you were a sucker for punishment. Come take your beating like you crave.

Numbers in the US have been going down for years when it comes to attending church (post with numbers upcoming).

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

news.gallup.com/.../...lined-religious-groups.aspx

[JacobJordan]

"Numbers in the US" bitch please there are 8b people on earth and the USA has not even a sixteenth of the world's population. Tell me you know absolutely nothing about the world without telling me you know absolutely nothing about the world. Please continue proving my point. This is like shooting fish in a barrel

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

It's down everywhere in the world except in places like Nigeria, which has a high Catholic presence. Yes, the numbers you posted might represent what religion a person identifies as, but it doesn't mean they are going to church regularly, if at all.

I gave US numbers because they were the easiest to provide.

Also for someone who has referred to me as "dumb bitch" and that you shouldn't argue with a dumb person, you keep posting with me. I think I take what I said back. You actually do like being wrong especially when it's a woman doing it. Must be a weird sexual thing for you.

That or you actually don't consider me dumb after all, which if I gave a flying fuck about what you thought, might mean something.

[JacobJordan]

Except you haven't been right yet lol. Keep trying failure

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Haven't been right? I've literally provided proof each time. You are the one just saying, "lol no, it's this" with no proof.

Since you have nothing useful to add to this conversation at this point other than insults, I'm just gonna remove future comments until you can be useful and provide any statistical evidence to back your claims.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Thank you for MHO!

[Anonymous]

Ridiculous. Not sure why everything must be conformed to please the minority nowadays, but it's pretty stupid. Girl Scouts exist for the girls, Boy scouts exist for the boys. Acceptance should be based on biological standpoint. Why change the tradition and history of Boy scouts just because so many people get offended in 2024? Boys experience sexism too, perfect example.

[normalice]

From what I understand this has nothing to do with gender identity so much as the fact that in the south "boy" is considered derogatory.

[exitseven]

@normalice people need to realize that not everything is about race.

[CriticalCatDad]

Who's bringing up race in this discussion?

[normalice]

One of those "take your own advice" moments, I guess 🤷‍♂️

[ProbablyClueless]

"Boy" became kind of a racially derogatory thing because slave holders would sometimes call male slaves boys. It's kind of a dismissive thing to refer to a man as a boy. The whole thing is kind of arcane though... I can't believe that anyone actually cares.

[normalice]

@ProbablyClueless neither could I, until someone did. What deep south bumpkins lack in usefulness they make up for in rage.

[ProbablyClueless]

Wouldn't it be whoever felt the need to change the name from Boy Scouts? But anyway, according to NPR, the derrogatory status of boy had nothing to do with the name change. www.npr.org/.../boy-scouts-of-america-scouting-america-name-change

[normalice]

@ProbablyClueless the retaliation from ignoring the unjustified rage of deep south bumpkins is how we got Trump, though. Feeling the need to change based on their rage, however silly or contrived its source, is pretty much the basis for the entire republican party these days. I wouldn't give in to it, personally, but as you point out that doesn't seem to be what they did, either.

[CriticalCatDad]

One of my coworkers calls me "boy" and no one gives a fuck 🤷🏻‍♂️ it's not a racially charged word you're all just pussies

[normalice]

@CriticalCatDad I didn't say it was racially charged. I'm saying the deep south country bumpkins I've met take offense to it. I have no idea why theyre so ridiculous about it but then i have no idea why they are ridiculous about pretty much everyrhing else they do. If you think they are pussies for it feel free to explain it to them.

[Daniela1982]

@normalice Not in the movie Phantasm.

[OlderAndWiser]

This is just fucking stupid! This is why the Democrats must be defeated in November.

[OtterMan68]

you realize this is not a government program, right?

[OlderAndWiser]

@OtterMan68 Of course I know that the Boy Scout organization is not a government agency! Duh!

[OtterMan68]

so what does this have to do with what party is in power since the feds don't control the BSA

[OlderAndWiser]

@OtterMan68 I don't have time for the full lecture, but the election of a president with a far left agenda acts as an affirmation and endorsement of the agenda, and it encourages the private sector to move in that direction. Similarly, the election of a president with a far right agenda acts as an affirmation and endorsement of that agenda, and it encourages the private sector to move in that direction.

[OlderAndWiser]

Thanks for MHO!

[DishLady]

Is that true or are they going to make an "umbrella" title and then have Boy/Girl Scouts?

[exitseven]

It looks like the Girl Scouts will remain separate. I think it still excludes boys but who knows these days

[DishLady]

It’s all become really off.

Either do “Scouts of America” or just leave the Boy/Girl, no? 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[In_Trance]

I don't think this is a gender issue per se. I think this is a creepy scout leader diddling little boys issue. Of course enrollment is going to be down

[exitseven]

My son was in Boy Scouts and I used to see older guys at the Klondike that did not have kids in the program and it always creeped me out a little.

[JacobJordan]

They have a girl scouts and a boy scouts for a reason. Boys go to boy scouts. Girls go to girls scouts. It is quite simple. Let's go simpler if you have or had a penis you go to boy scouts if you have or had a vagina you go to girl scouts. Again super simple

[BLP11520]

They have ruined it. Why can’t there be Girl Scouts? Why can’t there be Boy Scouts for Pete’s sake😡

[exitseven]

See @normalice 's opinion. I think he nailed it.

[CriticalCatDad]

I guess boys and men can't have anything for themselves anymore... 😪 Meanwhile women get safe spaces from men. But it's definitely not a female takeover 🤣

[bolverk]

Yes, the membership will decrease, because the boys who want a male only environment will leave. It seems stupid to open up the Boys side of Scouting to 'everyone' but the Girls side of Scouting remains Girls Only. I can see a totally new organisation being created that follows the principals of Scouting but not using the name and be male focused the same way that Girls side of Scouting insists on being.

[CriticalCatDad]

I hope they create a new organization just for boys. Unfortunately it'll be deemed as mysoginistic for not allowing girls and will most likely end up sued until it allows girls

[Cutegirl06]

I think it's stupid! It takes out what it's all about Boys. I think it has less meaning. People have way too much time thinking these ridiculous changes up.

[Static_In_The_Attic]

Times are changing & nowadays in order to please everyone a lot of things have to change as well. It’s amazing how boy scouts will let girls chin however the girl scouts will not let boys in. One day the two will merge.

[lightbulb27]

Nah that opens it up to my dog 🐕 whom would make a better scout than most. Undortunatw sont have something just for boys.


Just wait til they rename Mothers day birthing person day.

[ThatRandomBoy]

I don't know why all I know is I was having trouble starting a fire when I was in that shit. I will die out in the wilderness if that ever happens

[AviatorTom]

Bad idea. There's enough of an issue with some scout leaders and boys on campouts. Just think what's going to happen on campouts where boys, girls and trans share the same tents.

[sage2021]

Yes, they've gone too far!

Are they going to put the boys and the girls together and have one big Scouting America 🇺🇸?

[CriticalCatDad]

They'd have to do away with the girl scouts in order to do that and they won't. Everything has to be about women and girls

[sage2021]

@CriticalCatDad

I am a woman and to be honest I really don't like these other girls and women wanting everything equal as boys and men.
They are way too darn pushy! They want this, they want that because boys are men have it.
I say if they want to be equal about everything, then they should use the boys/men's bathrooms instead of the girls/woman's bathrooms and it shouldn't be a problem.
If you want equal, then it should be equal all the way or not at all.
Back when women in America 🇺🇸 first starting to want equality was for getting the same wages as men were for doing the same job. That's fair and good.

The right to vote. That was fair and good.

They've taken equality way out of the ballpark to extremism!

I can see why a lot of men can't stand these women. Pushy and selfish!

Let the boys have the darn Boy Scouts and quit causing trouble everyday about everything! It's really getting old!

[Wiredone]

Trust me, it will go further. There are so many " butt hurt" people out there. First they change the name of aunt Jemima because they were offended. I'm waiting for them to change the name of Pillsbury dough boy.

[CriticalCatDad]

If Biden ends up reelected, they will most definitely change the name of the Pillsbury dough boy and many other things

[KrakenAttackin]

Good grief, can't there be any male spaces at all? Young boys desperately need strong male role models. Boys and girls are different, why can't we let each have their own thing?

[genericname85]

they still haven't understood the principle of: if you're trying to be liked by everyone, nobody will like you.

[OddBeMe]

Apparently being satirical or religious gets you out of trouble.

[DrPepper12]

No. I would never let my kids join such a bigoted organization anyway.

[gorydetails]

Between scout leaders molesting boys and allowing girls, the organization is dead.

[Twalli]

If we didn't have Girl Scouts, we should be, otherwise we shouldn't unless we're combining them.

[Anonymous]

Boy Scouts and girls scouts…. Well not anymore