The similarities are undeniable, so it's reasonable to think there's a link. Does it explain why southern states are so pro Russian and Trump is so pally with Putin?
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Is the confederate flag based on the Russian navel flag?
No, the CSA flag is actually based on the British Union Jack.
The American Revolution was primarily the northern colonies rebelling against the British; the Southern colonies still liked the British, and England was, in fact, the South's main export country for tobacco and cotton, the main products of the South. Some historians note that the South hoped that England would support the CSA, but it remained neutral.
Anyone, Putin included, who studies the art of war is naturally going to be in awe of Southern political tactics. Russia adopted the flag in 2008. My guess is Russia admires the South, because we: 1) faked losing a Civil War 2) shot the president 3) took over the United States government and the press 4) kept slavery alive for 100 more years.
The Southern Cause first and foremost was about the inalienable right of the people to self-government. So @on_my_knees your suggesting Putin who rejects this idea in Ukraine, Georga, and countless other places as any thing in common with the Confederacy?
Putin restored the Russian Navel flag to that of the post 1924 USSR's navy because he felt Russian navy was stronger then and want to rebuild the USSR. It was Putin's predecessor Boris in 1992 who put it back to the St Andrew's Cross in 1992 after leaving the USSR.
Fun fact, both Russia and communist founder Karl Marx were among the strongest of supporters of the Union cause and Lincoln himself. Karl Marx having written Lincoln letter's of support describing how his union cause was important and Russia sending their navy to keep the brittish from attacking the west coast.
@monorprise Where are you from? I'm from the South, and I can tell you we didn't want to give up our slaves. The "Southern Cause" was about the fact that we don't need some Yankees prancing around on their high horse trying to take our property. Of course the communists supported the North. What does that prove? That Putin doesn't admire Southern war tactics? No.
@on_my_knees I too am from the South of course, the desire of the minority of the southern population that owned slaves to retain them is a sub-issue to the desire to retain the power to decide that and all other issues for ourselves.
This is why self-determination was the overarching southern Cause for that simple concept encapsulates all southern desires driving southern desires for independence in conflict with the North who likewise was against precisely that broad issue of self-determination alone.
I remind you the North even offered an amendment to protect slavery. It wasn't enough we didn't trust them on that issue nor the broader issues of tariffs nor the undermining nitpicking issues undermining the agreement on interstate borders.
We had no reason to trust them they had spent decades demonstrating a radical determination to have their way at any cost.
@monorprise I can only guess then, sir, that you have been brainwashed be the woke culture to defend the South by denying that our primary motivation for seceding from the Union was the institution of slavery.
If this is an attempt to lessen the blemish put upon us by our past, to undo the stereotype that we are racists, then I urge you to change your position. 25% of Southerners owned slaves.
Mississippi's declaration of secession stated, "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery."
Likewise sir, you should proudly declare, as do I, that our great Southern nation defended slavery. It was the fools who abolished slavery that created something far worse: racism.
@on_my_knees I would not deny that slavery was a significant concern, but to declare it the cause of the war is to declare both that the North was some how "forced" to deny Southerns the exactly same right of self-determination they declared inalienable in 1776 and that slavery alone was the only issue motivating the south.
Neither is true, nor was the abolition of slavery an aim of the north and therefore it is not honest to call slavery a cause of the war for either side. This was added retroactively half way thou the war by Lincoln to justify what he had done after it became to settle in as it was pointed out by the British the historic signficance of his highly hypocritical war upon the foundational right of self-determination. Even Lincoln's hand picked court after the war tried to skirt said hypocrisy by declaring a "Revolution" as a justification for secession and simply deeming the south to have not engaged in any such revolution. As if merely Parliament or Rather King George's magistrates refusal to recognize a revolution having taken place should have made the 13 colonies surrender their "insurrection" against the crown.
This is not a "woke theory", this story has been around for over 100+ years. Yankees sometimes like to call it the "lost cause" theory. But it is really simply a recognition of the facts on the ground.
1: The right of the people to throw off governments they deem repressive is both essential and inalienable for a free people. Without this right we would all become slaves to the persistent corruption of power and those who have it. Be it a distant alien "majority" or a local oligarchy either can be disconnected and unconcerned with the needs and rights of the people.
2: The south had many reasons for desiring independence not just slavery and voted to do so the same way they voted to join.
@on_my_knees I should like to also note that racism as defined being an aspect of the nature of life to favor kin is not likely to ever fully be eliminated. Only understood and reduced as we focus on what we have in common and can do for each other in trade.
It is furthermore a economic reality that the institution of slavery was unsustainable in an industrialized economy simply because the police state required to even attempt to enforce it was prohibitively expensive.
I don't think you appreciate just how enormously costly maintaining the police state and dealing with the regular threat of slave revolts was to the states. This is a major practical reason why the Northern States abandoned the institution following industrialization.
As such the institution would have collapsed by or before the 1920's with the industrialization of agriculture and the invention of Air Conditioning in the South. The same time and reason it's economic need which survived in the more privatized model of sharecropping also collapsed.
@integrale77 The battle Flag is based upon St Andrew's Cross is a Scottish not Russian flag. That flag features the simple blue cross, Red background of the confederate flag was added to the Russian version until 1924 or almost 60 years after the military conquest of the Confederacy in 1865.
So if if anyone stole anything it was the Russian communist.
by the way Both Russia and the contemporaneity communist founder Karl Marx were the strongest of supporters of the Union cause and Lincoln at the time. The Confederacy both in idea and practice was about as ideologically far from both as you can get.
Unlike the UK, France, or Spain. With Russia actually sending their navy to help protect the west coast from a potential British attack.
"Southern states are so pro Russian"... you crack me up Poppy.
If you ever want to come to the U. S. and see the real South, I will happily be your tour guide. I think you will find most of your impressions are seriously off kilter.
*That is not the original flag of the Confederacy. That is the Battle jack of the Army of Northern Virginia. It was adopted as the Confederate Flag in 1865 *The other is Jack of first- and second-rank ships of border forces adopted in 2008.
If the opposite is true, there's no indication of it.
No the confederate flag is based on the original 13 colonies that is why it contains 13 stars. The x is drawn from British uniforms and replaced with blue to signify freedom
Who do you support the Yankees or the Rebels? If you don’t know what it means google it you’ll find out. The Yankees represent the north the Rebels represent the south
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