If I were President, I'd pardon Derek Chauvin. How does that make you feel?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I'm a martial artist, and the submission he used on Floyd is non-lethal. The Forensic Pathologist said George Floyd died from a Fentanyl overdose. Derek Chauvin was a hero who was protecting a store owner from a ruthless thug who tried to rob them at gunpoint.

In Louisiana, when you die during the commission of a crime, your life insurance is voided BECAUSE IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT.

[Chazmatazz269]

You got pretty much everything wrong. The report indicated Floyd died of heart failure and that fentanyl may have been a factor but the primary cause was force used during his “arrest”. Exact words from the report “ concludes that it was a homicide due to “cardiopulmonary arrest” from “law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.” Fun fact: fentanyl overdose is easily preventable if treated properly in time. The treatment doesn’t include someone kneeling on your neck and head. The POLICE report also indicates that the police knew he needed medical attention, but did not call for medical in a timely fashion, “Officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress.”
Also, the initial call was for alleged check fraud. Floyd was not armed and he was not violent in any way. The POLICE report literally reads, “at no time were weapons of any type used by anyone involved in this incident”.


The doctors called to testify at the trial, the police department’s own reports and the medical examiner’s report on Floyd’s autopsy all refute your nonsense.
These facts are easily checked. A fifth grader could do it. You should be ashamed of yourself. Everyone who reads what you wrote knows the truth. Either you’re a troll, or you’re actually a racist POS that isn’t helping anything because that word is thrown around plenty without turds like you giving cause for it. Why don’t you sit down and shut up while grown folks talk, fool?

[ApplePie409]

And he did a home invasion and pointed a loaded gun at a pregnant woman's belly. What a nice guy.

[Chazmatazz269]

Separate incident. Not a capital offense, and even if it was, it’s neither the cop’s right nor responsibility to murder a suspect.
Chauvin did wrong. He knows he did wrong or he wouldn’t have plead guilty to the federal charges. Even if he wins his appeal at the state level, he stays in prison for years. And he won’t win his appeal. Actually, now that he’s promised easy time in a federal prison, i wouldn’t be surprised to hear he drops the appeal.

[b_lova]

@ApplePie409 actually there was no pregnant woman involved in the aggravated robbery you are speaking of. Someone made that part up to make him look worse on the public eye than he actually was. And he had already paid his debt to society for that crime, 5 years of incarceration. When this happened was trying to turn his life around. It was a well know fact he had a substance abuse issue. 16.5% of Americans also have substance abuse issues, do they all deserve to be killed on the street by a police officer via suffocation? No one said his life was perfect but he didn't deserve to die as he did.

[Red_Arrow]

"SeekerOfTruth" is a lie just like your story. No Forensic Pathologist stated that Floyd died from Fentanyl. And even had he had that amount of Fentanyl in him, the police carry easy to administer injections that can counter the Fentanyl, but apparently the officers wanted him to die. Expert witnesses called by prosecutors during the trial concluded that Floyd did not die of an overdose or because of his drug use.

Floyd suffered from and enlarged heart and other cardiac complications and needed more oxygen than others might have. The officials concluded that Floyd's death was NOT caused by drugs, but by the pressure on his back and the tightening around his neck. In Louisiana, when you die during the commission of a crime, your life insurance is voided because it is your fault, and that is why the officers were found guilty of homicide.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

BS. I can get out of a knee to the back of the neck. I does not kill you. I've been in thousands of hours worth of martial artis scenarios and a knee to your back does not kill you and is not even a strong submission.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

He was Resisting Arrest, which is itself a Felony.

I'm licensed to sell insurance in Louisiana, and I can assure you if this happened in Louisiana it would be his own fault.

[Red_Arrow]

You might be able to get out of a knee to the back of the neck because you had martial arts training. The knee was on his back and another officer was holding his legs. Obvious to all sane people that the two officers holding him were a strong hold. Submission means yealding to a stronger force, not the force that is applied. You better learn what terms mean if you are selling insurance. And selling insurance does not make you more knowledgeable than the doctors and medical examiners that found it was homicide on the officers part. The officials in Louisiana find out who you are irl, you will like;ly no longer be selling insurance.

[ApplePie409]

I listened to a delightful and clever British woman on the radio. The host attacked her because of the British’s fondness for the royal family. She bitch slapped him.

She said:

“Yes, unlike you Americans that worship a worthless drug addict that did a home invasion and pointed a loaded gun at a pregnant woman’s belly!” Touche! Bravo!

The bleeding heart worthless liberals on this thread that are still weeping over a scumbag criminal are amazing.

Only in America, can a career criminal scumbag get statues built for him, just to gain the black vote.

Now I want you to ask a question about little Cannon.

He was shot in the head execution style, because he rode his bike on the wrong lawn.

Why doesn't anyone know about this? Why would the liberals on this site not care? If you post this, they will be silent. Why didn't it make the news?

[BCA6010]

I'd have to revisit the details of that one but at the time I recall being pissed at the chief of police for blatantly lying to the court and a compromised jury that was not only not sequestered, but had two activists planted inside it that somehow slipped through. Furthermore the full, unedited version of the video footage should've been open and shut in favor of Chauvin's defense, but political expedience clearly won out. I'm inclined to be in favor of a pardon.

[shortster]

Floyd had twice the lethal dose of fentanyl in his system at the time of his death. Which he likely took well before the police interaction. So he probably took even more than that amount. Chauvin is clearly a political prisoner.

[Red_Arrow]

Bullshit.

[shortster]

It was in the coroner's report.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@Red_Arrow Resisting Arrest is a Felony

[Red_Arrow]

Even if he was found to be resisting arrest, that does not allow you to murder him!

[shortster]

Fentanyl is a synthetic opioid. Opioids are a CNS (central nervous system) depressant; typically causing drowsiness. Overdoses result when the individual's breathing reflex is suppressed. Fentanyl is 100 times more potent than morphine; heroin is only 2-3 times more potent than morphine.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@Red_Arrow Read the Bible. It tells you in Romans 13 that the Governor does not bear the sword in vain. Floyd was a criminal and a criminal has no rights according to the Constitution amendment 14.

[Red_Arrow]

I have read and researched the Bible extensively. And some parts cannot be taken exactly, proven by how many parts conflict with others, If you believe exactly "The authorities that exist have been established by God" then you believe Hitler was established by God, and that belief means you are sick!
The 14th Amendment provides all citizens with equal protection under the laws. Absolutely nowhere does it state that criminals have no rights. Just the opposite. Obviously you cannot understand what you read. You need a brain transplant!

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@Red_Arrow There is an excepton clause in the 14th Amendment which states, "Except as punishment for a crime."

Thus the authors intended that Criminal 3 fundamental rights are forfeited when they commit a crime.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@Red_Arrow The True God allowed the First and Second Diaspora and the True God Allowed the Holocaust, and the True God has a MORAL justification for that. Think about that.

[Red_Arrow]

I have no idea which part of the amendment you are misinterpreting, but the amendment guarantees legal process to all citizens, which means access to a lawyer and a trial to determine guilt, neither of which Floyd got when the officers murdered him.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@Red_Arrow lethal force is used in police work all the time, and the officers did not murder him. He died from his own illegal actions. Murder is defined as the unlawful killing of an innocent person. Floyd was not innocent, so it is not possible to murder him.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@Red_Arrow in order to logically prove murder you have to show intent to kill, which is not shown. Chauvin did not intend George Floyd to die, and as I said I saw the video and the submission used is non-lethal. I'm an expert on martial arts submissions.

[Red_Arrow]

Floyd was not found guilty in a trial, so he was not a criminal. And lethal force is not allowed when a suspect is subdued, which Floyd was. He died from what the officers did to him and the legal system found that they had committed homicide to Floyd.

[Red_Arrow]

Murder can be shown by performing actions which are killing someone, and the police were cutting off oxygen to him and could see that, yet continued. The medical examiners and other officials judged it was a homicide, and his death proved it was lethal. And knock off the bullshit about being a martial arts expert. Everything you say is proving you do not understand what is lethal and what is okay in martial arts.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@Red_Arrow Putting your knee in someone's back does not kill them. I've had it done to me several times by a 240 pounds 4th degree black belt and I could get out of it.

You don't know what you're talking about.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@Red_Arrow The legal system gets it wrong all the time. If I were a defendant in a capital trial, Id demand a trial where the jurors all had law degrees. Incompetent peer juries should be illegal.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@Red_Arrow I can KILL another human being from the bottom position. A "subdued" opponent is not harmless when they continue resisting arrest.

Suspects try to make the police look bad on camera. That's all it was. Floyd was high on Fentanyl and died from th e overdose. you could see hee was foaming at the mouth on the video from the drugs.

[shortster]

If you two want to argue on my post can we keep it on the topic of fentanyl use?

Also @Red_Arrow is right about the 14th Amendment. You can only be denied your rights as a citizen after due process of law (i. e. a trial). Though Floyd had been convicted of several crimes before the day of his death. He had already served his sentence for those crimes and thusly would have all his rights restored. Now if you want to argue about the severity of the sentencing for those crimes he was convicted of; that is an argument for another day.

[OddBeMe]

No they said it was the neck thing. Maybe the defense's purchased "pathologist".
www.nbcnews.com/.../medical-examiner-who-ruled-george-floyd-s-death-homicide-blames-n1263670

[DryGermanGuy]

Even if you were president you could not pardon him because he was tried in a state court, not federal court. You're welcome.

[msc545]

@SeekerOfTruth007 Read the autopsy report. The pathologist DID NOT say he died of a Fentanyl OD at all. Quite the contrary. By lying like you did, I can't decide if you are ignorant, negligent, or just stupid.

[handsomelad70]

Then why did he die after being choked out for 570 seconds, genius? You'd pardon EVERY racist murderer since 1619, wouldn't you, Mr. (David) Duke? Shouldn't you post on the Klan website, boyo?

[normalice]

Obviously, I would assume you are a white nationalist.

[AviatorTom]

There's reasonable suspicion that his trial was politically motivated. Someone had to be blamed.

[exitseven]

I would do the same w cert you can't because he is in a state prison and not a federal pen.

[DrPepper12]

I think a lot, NOT ALL, cops are racist sadists with God complexes.

[Anonymous]

While kapernick kneeled for Floyd, Derek Chauvin kneeled for justice.

[Dongie]

You are right. If races were switched would there have even been a word spoken, no.

[Anonymous]

It makes me feel damn glad you’re not president