Have you heard of Project2025?

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The president of the ultra-conservative Heritage Foundation, which is behind Project 2025: "We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be." (By "left", he means anyone who disagrees with him.)

Reminder:
National abortion ban
Taking away all forms of contraception
Making no-fault divorce illegal
Making pornography illegal

[Danzigdawson]

Basically a plan for a conservative, christian authoritarian state.

Their whole reasoning: "We think that america is an authoritarian state so let's replace the whole thing with a different, even harsher authoritarian state". Everyone knows that it's better to have Himmler as the führer instead of Hitler.

I read only the first few pages of the. pdf (made available by NPR). No sources whatsoever, even for simple statistics, empty claims, outright lies, fear mongering, contributors relying on their statuses rather than the quality of their arguments, as if it was enough for them to be taken seriously...

A load of pure, vile shit.

"Woke, woke, woke."

"Cultural marxism, cultural marxism, cultural marxism."

An excuse to grant themselves absolute power...

The American 21st century Reichstag fire.

[DryGermanGuy]

Please see my previous comment here:

So, have we all heard of project 2025 by now?

[goaded]

Oh, I missed that one. Yeah, they're not even bothering to hide it any more.

[DryGermanGuy]

The steps after the next for "Project 2025" (and they sound frightening) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2uWWhaugns

[jennifer_bloom]

I’m not allowed to view the video due to my Canadian citizenship.

[goaded]

weird! I can see it in Germany. There's a (far less funny) description of it here: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do

"The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the Axe, for the Axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them." - Turkish proverb.

[Juxtapose]

Yeah and it would be hilarious if even half of it actually went through. The far left would have a fucking brain aneurysm.

[Danzigdawson]

Yup, until you —yourself— realize what is, in reality, an actual authoritarian state... Not a fabled one where getting angry replies from wokes on social media is characterized by whiny conservatives as "oppression" and "censorship".

Who do you think lives a great life in an authoritarian state, you stupid, stupid dumbfuck? The servants or the selected few who hold all of the authority?

You better ramp-up your ostentatious display of absolute obedience to trump and the republican party, because being a RINO or a moderate won't exactly be an option, if "even half of it actually went through".

[Juxtapose]

@Danzigdawson funny how you talk about authoritarianism when it was the Democrats who were authoritarian assholes about locking up society and forcing you to wear a mask because of God damn covid. Damn near unpersoning you if you didn't take the stupid shot, Fauci openly saying people will drop there "ideological bullshit" if he makes life hard enough for them.

And also not to mention we already have civil asset forfeiture and whistleblowers being locked up under "left wing" leaders. Clinton wanted to blow Julian Assange up with a drone strike.

Anyone who would support Clinton or Biden over Trump does not understand authoritarianism.

[Juxtapose]

*their ideological bullshit

[Danzigdawson]

Yeah... we all know how quick they were to declare covid disinformation to be illegal, censor it outright (you couldn't find it anywhere online) and then murder millions of conspiracy theorists. The restrictions were never lifted, of course, because one thing authoritarian governments love is to loosen their grip on power.

They had no patience and a zero tolerance policy for fuckers who were proudly, stupidly and angrily sabotaging efforts made by the government and society at large to end the pandemic, spreading harmful lies about vaccines, amongst other things.

Maybe you should go to Russia and then just walk around casually anywhere in Moscow with a sign that says "fuck putin" in Russian. Just to see what happens and just to understand what trump's buddy and role model is all about... and maybe learn a thing or two about actual authorianism.

[Juxtapose]

Wow there's a lot to unpack here so I will go paragraph by paragraph.

They would have absolutely done so if they could get away with it. You don't realize yet dude that authoritarians have to be in the position to subjugate people before they actually do it? The people in America are too well armed, they would have to be disarmed first but they do manipulate the public disinformation campaigns and intimidation. But they can't outright go full Stalinist because of the American public being so well armed. You would need also generations of brainwashing, demoralization and getting the police pretty comfortable with the subjugating the public further.

The only ones who lied about the vaccines were the ones who were peddling them like Anthony Fauci.

Your last paragraph is a bunch of nonsense that has nothing to do with what we were talking about. It exposes you as a woke person though because only woke people believe that Russia Russia Russia nonsense. That hoax was already disproven.

[Danzigdawson]

@Juxtapose Half the country is so well-armed... with automatic assault rifles (at best). Yeah, that's really intimidating to the U. S. gouvernment. After all, they only have what you can have in terms of firearms, plus the army, the navy, the marine corps with all their tanks, fighter jets, snipers, helicopters, grenades, a well-trained army, anti-personnel and anti-tank mines, drones, special ops, explosives, missiles, bombers etc.

If the US government really wanted to disarm the "so well-armed" population to "go full stalinist", there is no amount of pussy AR-15 rifles and of fat fucks who owns them would be able to stop them from doing so. Every idiot like you would be transformed into a shapeless pile of flesh before you'd even have a chance to point your rifle at a soldier and shoot.

[Danzigdawson]

@Juxtapose and you can't just wish the last paragraph to become nonsense just because you declare it is. It doesn't work that way in the non-stupid world. It has to actually be nonsense for you to call it nonsense.

It has nothing to do with Trump's alleged ties with Russia before and during the 2016 election.

I'll just dumb it down for you:

- Russia is currently a true authoritarian regime. Not an imagined "woke" dictatorship.
- If you criticize Putin while in Russia, chances are you'll get arrested and jailed.
- Putin is also known to poison the opponents he deems to be too powerful or influential
- All the news are controlled by the state, under some sort of "Fake news" laws (if you contradict what the Kremlin is saying, it's fake news and you're out of luck)
-Trump likes Putin and his authoritarian style. He said so many times.
- Trump wishes he could punish or get rid of his ennemies the same way Putin does, he also implied that.
- Trump said that he would be a dictator "for a day", as if it was an innocent joke.
- Project 2025 is the blueprint for an authoritarian state. Pure and simple.
- Project 2025 desires unilateral control of the state for conservatives loyal to Trump.
- Project 2025 wants to get rid of all things that could oppose Trump's policies.

[Danzigdawson]

@Juxtapose Hence, if you walk casually around Moscow wearing a sign that says "Fuck Putin" in Russian, you'll quickly get a taste of the style of leadership Trump admires.

[Juxtapose]

The military would have a coup lol, they're not gonna fuck with people like that in America unless you fill the military with criminal aliens.. which the deep state wants.

Your points about Trump are ridiculous. We saw his leadership already, get over your silly paranoia over him being Stalin when Jim Crow Joe is the Stalinist who's persecuting his political opposition.

[QuietRunner]

Is that where China will have almost everything they consumer made in China or where the Putin Price Hikes finally are lowered by Putin to give everyday Americans grocery store price relief?

[msc545]

Absolute nightmare.

[exitseven]

This is the real nightmare. 133 pages on how to destroy a country from within.
joebiden.com/.../...TASK-FORCE-RECOMMENDATIONS.pdf

[goaded]

@exitseven LOL. It's 110 pages. More importantly, it's discussing how to address an existential problem for civilisation, whereas Project2025 is about cementing minority rule (aka fascism) over the United States.

Anything but perfect loyalty to the leader - firing offence.
Stopping the president from breaking the law - firing offence.
Competence - irrelevant.
Christian Nationalism - integral.
FBI - decimated.
DoJ - under direct control of the president.
Department of Education - eliminated
Abortion drugs - illegal.
Pornography - illegal.

[exitseven]

Itc. Is a plan to fix the country. It is so screwed up it will take a lot to fix things

[goaded]

@exitseven No, it's a plan to install a dictator.

[exitseven]

@goaded Too much CNN me thinks. Trump said he would only be a dictator on the first day.

[goaded]

@exitseven How many dictators can you name who gave up power after one day?

Besides, it's not what he says, it's what the entire plan is about - minority rule.

[exitseven]

It is not minority rule. It is about following the constitution and election integrity.

[exitseven]

Letting millions of illegal aliens vote is minority rule.

[goaded]

@exitseven That doesn't happen. It's a lie.

[exitseven]

in the state Iive in it has already happened.

[Danzigdawson]

@exitseven It's a plan for dictatorship and nothing else than that, you doofus.

If the goal is "fixing up the country", it's as appropriate a means to an end as doing brain surgery with an axe or killing a fly with an ICBM.

Wake up and smell the book burning.

[exitseven]

@Danzigdawson the country has been damaged in the last 4 years more than Hitler did in WW2. It could take a generation to recover if ever. A lot has to be accomplished in the next four years to make sure what has happened cannot happen again.

[goaded]

@exitseven Hitler didn't touch America! WWII basically bankrupted the British Empire and allowed America to thrive. If Biden's done as much good for the country (which he probably has, despite Republican obstruction), you're doing well.

There's not a single illegal alien voting in state or federal elections, and there never will be.

[exitseven]

@goaded In the state I live in which is democrat the sec of state comes on tv and says you only need a state drivers license to register to vote. They also voted to give illegal aliens drivers licenses. They also automatically register everyone who gets a drivers license. Connect the dots. They do not come right out and say that illegals can vote but they create a system that there is no way that it can be prevented. Itis actually illegal to ask somebody's citizenship at the polls. I am sure that this happens in other states and the democrats are trying to get other states to do this.

[goaded]

@exitseven Just say what state it is. I'll show you the law that ensures undocumented immigrants from voting in state or federal elections, and how it's checked.

Here are the 24 states that have automatic voter registration:
Alaska, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Nevada, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virgina.
ballotpedia.org/Automatic_voter_registration

Here are the 15 states that allow undocumented people to get driving licences.

California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington.

thehill.com/.../

So it's one of: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Vermont, Virginia, Washington.

In California, for example: "State law prohibits DMV from sending information for AB 60 applicants (undocumented driver license applicants) to the Secretary of State. "

[exitseven]

of course the Secs of states cannot come out and say it is legal for illegal aliens to vote. What they do is create a system where they can vote and there is no way to stop it. Where I live you can register to vote with just a drivers license. Republicans wanted at least something on their drivers licenses so election officials could tell who was an illegal alien and who was a citizen but since the democrats have total control over state government it was soundly defeated. They will than tell them all that if they didn't vote for Biden and Trump won the election they will all be deported.
Biden is betting his re-election on the illegal alien vote. There could be as many as 20 million in the country now. That can flip two or three swing states.

[goaded]

@exitseven So, imagine you're in the country illegally. How dumb would you have to be to hand your personal details, including photograph, to the government, just to get a vote?

Like I said say "Where I live", and I'll show you why you can't. California, for example, has a separate mechanism for getting a driver's licence for undocumented people (AB 60), and so that licence number is in a database somewhere saying they're not allowed to vote. Not having a scarlet I on your driver's licence doesn't mean you can use it to vote.

[exitseven]

Where does it say they need an ID? They are let into this country without an ID. They are allowed on airplanes without an ID. They sign up for welfare without an ID. They can go to the hospital without an ID. And they can get a driver's license without an ID. Not having an ID will not prevent them from voting.

[goaded]

@exitseven Do you even think to check what you're saying?

"AB 60 driver’s licenses (DL) are for individuals who are unable to provide proof of legal presence in the United States (U. S.), but who meet California DMV requirements and are able to provide proof of identity and California residency."
www.dmv.ca.gov/.../

[exitseven]

They do not have that distinction in the state i. live in. The Republicans proposed it but it was defeated by the Democrat state legislature. They designed the system so there is no way to tell if somebody is an illegal alien ad they will let them all know that if Trump is elected the gravy train will stop and they will all be sent back.

[goaded]

@exitseven Name the state, and I'll show you the law. You're one in at least half a million people, you're not going to get doxxed!

[exitseven]

Hint: Ground zero for moonbats

[goaded]

@exitseven You just don't want me to show you the law, do you?

[exitseven]

The trick is that there is no law that actually comes out and says that illegal aliens can vote. There is even laws against it. However the democrats rig the system so that there is no way to check to see who is illegal and who's a citizen. Once the ballot ends up in the ballot box there is no way to tell them apart. Then in this state they do not even bother to check.

[goaded]

@exitseven No, they don't. The real trick is that Republicans will lie to you and say that's what they're doing.

By the way, did you catch Trump saying he lost the election in an interview, before he realised that that meant he knew he was lying and was guilty of fraud?

[exitseven]

Hitler cost thousands of American lives and billions of dollars. not as many as the Fentanyl epidemic of the last 4 years though

[goaded]

@exitseven Did you catch Trump saying he lost the election in an interview, before he realised that that meant he knew he was lying and was guilty of fraud?

[exitseven]

No, I must have missed that. Could it have been a cheap fake?

[goaded]

@exitseven No, it would have been Trump saying “... after I lost the election” in an interview.

[MisterWack]

Sadly, yes.