Why is border security more important than say…cyberattacks or even gun crime?

[OddBeMe]

Where is the priority based on demand? Not emotion?

Illegal migrants aren’t a problem. Getting hacked or experiencing outages is. Not to mention 30,000 gun deaths a year. Show me 30,000 deaths caused by migrants.

[msc545]

Because Trump says it is and as a result of that, all of his moronic followers have decided to agree with him and routinely bitch and scream and make up lies about migrants to bolster Trump's lies.

Just as Hitler taught many Germans to hate Jews for his political goals, Trump has taught many Americans to hate migrants for his political goals.

There is nothing inherently bad about Jews or migrants, but because they have different cultures it is politically convenient to designate them as being somehow bad and thereby gain power.

[dustybiker2]

They wouldn't let Hitler take the picnic baskets back to his starving family. Hate does grow from root. To be fair.

[dustybiker2]

Trump has no excuses

[OddBeMe]

Unfort I think Trump voters taught Trump what they hated and he (having no morals or beliefs) just fires up whatever’s flammable. Anti immigration will always be flammable.

[DrPepper12]

Humans are flighty irrational reactionary creatures immune to facts and logic too often.

you're absolutely right though, there very little prioritization of issues, just each constituency fighting over a limited pie.

[Anonymous]

Biden solved the border problem. He now flies the illegals in.

[OddBeMe]

They’ve been flying in. Thats why a wall is stupid

[Opinion Owner]

But the president wasn't doing it.

[OddBeMe]

Oh you think Biden is actually paying for plane tickets for illegals?

[noohair]

Actually, there are flights directly from Venezuela into the United States. And the US is paying for those flights.

cis.org/.../Florida-Gateway-Data-Shows-Most-Migrant-Flights-Landing-Gov-DeSantiss-Sunshine-State

[Opinion Owner]

Exactly.

[OddBeMe]

Oh! I see! Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti immigration think tank. So agenda…

But what they’re referring to is “Advanced Travel Authorization”
www.dhs.gov/.../dhscbppia-073-advance-travel-authorization-ata

Basically pre-approving immigration papers before they board. Kinda like TSA pre-check. And it is working as a gateway to proper immigration.

Which we all want, right? Unless you both are just racist boobs.

[Opinion Owner]

Only an idiot plays the race card.

[OddBeMe]

Why wise would you be going after Mexican illegals rather than European ones who over stay their visas? Or have anchor families from marrying an American dude like Melania Trump and her family of Armenians.

[Opinion Owner]

You sound like Kamalal lol. I have no idea what you just said.

[OlderAndWiser]

Why are you focusing on gun deaths? There were 41,000 deaths due to motor vehicle collisions in the US in 2023.

[OddBeMe]

Good point. You think guns and cars should have the same regulations?

[Sevenpointfive]

let's just say for a day the cartels of mexico assaulted the border with their guns. how do you think that would go?

the next day, thousands of drug mules walk across the border freely and get a stamp that says they are AOKay!

i saw one border checkpoint video where there were 3rd party military people allowing these people to freely cross and it was illegal for the journalist to be there!

[OddBeMe]

Uhh how do drugs get across today? Because nothing is stopping the cartels in any meaningful way.

[Sevenpointfive]

it was usually by plane or boat. but what's stupid is china is selling this fentanyl to the cartels but no one talks about that

[OddBeMe]

Interesting. China sucks.
https://tinyurl.com/bdz32vpw

[Sevenpointfive]

and then the media blames it on illegals passing it through the border. it's a stupid chess game

[exitseven]

how about a cost of over half a trillion dollars.. Is that a big enough problem for you? How about over a hundred thousand deaths from fentanyl poisoning? Is that a big enough deal?
How do we know that the people behind cyber attacks are not the Chinese nationals that have poured into America during the Biden administration?
When do we have a dirty bomb detonated diuring thr Superbowl?

[OddBeMe]

Uhh…because we track the Chinese hackers to Chinese military bases…in China.

Sorry seek your migrant bashing elsewhere.

[exitseven]

So you are telling me that all the Chinese want to do is grow cannabis?

[OddBeMe]

No they hack the biggest corps for intel because their country is running out of resources for his billions in population.

[exitseven]

And that benefits American citizens HOW?

[OddBeMe]

Cyber security? We just dicsussed it.

Immigrants? There is little to no danger. Big economic benefits. No danger.

[exitseven]

Yes the state I live in has spent over a billion dollars to support illegal aliens. The number goes up front there. This is money that was given out to cities abs towns for capital projects like schools and municipal facilities and fire engines. The towns now have to raise property taxes to pay fr this or else they go without. That does not look like a big economic benefit to me. Having police cars parked outside the hotels where they are living is not helpful either

[HighValue]

Over 100,000 deaths per year from fentanyl coming across the border each year from illegals. That isn't even counting the rapes and murders by them.

Out of those "gun deaths" many are suicides, and many are defensive use of a firearm. People like you often lie and try to manipulate statistics. You must be watching too much msnbc, cnn, abc, and cbs news.

[msc545]

None of this has anything to do with migrants. As usual. You are conflating multiple issues and deciding that one of them causes the others.

[HighValue]

@msc545 Illegals are the ones bringing in fentanyl. But go ahead and keep lying like most liberals do.

[msc545]

Really? Have you personally arrested and searched them? If not, how the hell do you know what they do or do not bring in?

Call me names just once more and get blocked. you are free to disagree with me, but you are not free to be verbally abusive to me.

[Juxtapose]

My German friends could tell you how letting in extremist Muslims in their country has made it dangerous and they can't say certain things without fear of being stabbed.

There is also roaming rape gangs in Britain.

If you don't control immigration you lose your country.

[DryGermanGuy]

JD Vance told the great story of his grandmother having 19 loaded guns spread around her house. At the same time the leading cause of death for children and juveniles is guns. That’s MAGA logic and priorities for you. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[RedInnocent69]

Because it gives you the illusion of doing something against someone else.

[gorydetails]

I can show you the vast majority of gun deaths are done by democrats.

[MrGSpotHer]

You don't care what kind of people get into your country illegally?

[OddBeMe]

Not really. Just based on Americans I figure they’d be a leg up. And oh…research agrees with me.
www.washingtonpost.com/.../

[MrGSpotHer]

You are not American then?

[dustybiker2]

His fangirls like a reason to hate.

[noohair]

Without borders, we do not have a country.

[OddBeMe]

Without immigration we don’t have an economy. Look it up.

[noohair]

In this country, immigration is a legal process to cross the border and live and work in the United Stated. Over the last 3 ½ years over 2 million people entered illegally and are classified as getaways. 6 million crossed and asked for asylum. You can claim that this is all immigration; sadly that is not the truth.

[OddBeMe]

And we made immigration harder when repubs took over in the 80s. Duh. Same amount per year today as 1900. The population tripled since then pal.

[OddBeMe]

www.migrationpolicy.org/.../Annual-Number-of-US-Legal-Permanent-Residents