Why do many people think France is Islamophobic?

[Julie4]

[KostasKouvalis]

Isn't it? They banned them from wearing headscarves in public schools, once a school principle and teacher send some students to beat Muslim protesters ego were blocking students from getting to classes for exams. Some Corsicans went into a Muslim neighborhood and started beating them after they threw stones at a woman on a nude beach. I think they briefly banned burqinis in public schools and beaches. They banned niqabs outright. And hell, even Macron as Liberal as he is told them, "Mocking Islam is legal in France, chopping heads off is not, and he's not gonna be bullied by them."

France has anti-disctimation and anti-hate speech laws, but they don't seem to apply to Muslims. Aside from some black migrants from Africa who go there despite hating the country, France doesn't really have a problem with people assimilating. But Muslims always want to force everyone to live like them. I heard of a Muslim lady who had the nerve to yell at a French couple for making out. And there are Algerian owned businesses in France that don't allow women, despite gender discrimination being illegal. And so many Muslims commit rapes and terror attacks against French citizens.

It's more Muslims who are Francophonic, because Muslims wouldn't bother French people if they respected their laws and culture.

It's funny how they can force female tourists to cover themselves in THEIR countries, but France isn't allowed to have THEIR dress code.

Being Islamaphobic is nothing to be ashamed of

[ZackBan]

I came here (France) from the middle east 4 years ago.
I'm a Christian but my Arab features make everyone assume I'm a Muslim.

I've never truly been discriminated against.

Sure, sometimes I walk the streets and some old french lady will roll her eyes at me like I'm here to steal her food and impregnate her daughters.
But for the most part I'd say this country has been kind to me.

Its not perfect. But no country ever is.

I think it also has a lot to do with imagine. Basically one should dress how they wanna be treated.
So if I let myself go and look like a homeless mess I will be seen as such but with proper style and grooming I'm seen as what I am. A young professional with an engineering degree.

[RavVid]

Because the world is unfair. Without checking, as I remember, France bars the wearing of religious symbols in public institutions as part of it's egalitarian philosophy. A hijab is regarded as a religious symbol - I would say reasonably.

To me it is unfair to pick on France when that hotbed of far right extremism that is Sweden, is repatriating Muslims and busting up housing estates to achieve lower density of Islam to aide Integration.

Denmark, as well as England, I believe is considering what they call 'the Australian solution'. For those who don't know, as soon as an unlawful immigrant steps onto a beach they win an all expenses paid holiday on a tropical island. It is non discriminatory - every unlawful immigrant wins.

[NaultD]

There was a global stink about France beaches and what you can't wear there. "Can't" do something is a big deal in of itself.

USA it was communist not allowing beer can drink while driving home from work. Don't mention seat belts to these people. Even though this is as common as common sense gets today it was brutal to say you can't do this thing anymore.

The you can't wear something/ or anything by law in the first world democracy nation is going to make a mark and reputation in history.

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[soe11]

• I assume they do not integrate in society.
• They brought theirs cultures customs and traditions and outdated fashions.

My girlfriend and her mum are Muslim background, but forward thinking and ultra libral and move on according to time, both never wear religious garments in public except for private performing religious duties.

Both live according society and countries culture and trend, regarding outfits according to weather and climate conditions, as well as trends.

But both love wearing revealing exposure outfits in public and the bathing suits are minimal covered with maximum exposure.

Socially drinking, dancing, mingling male and female freely.

[abc3643]

Maybe because it should be?

#CharlieHebdo

https://www.youtube.com/embed/mpvz7w6ilNk

I have been witnessing Islamic horseshit for 52 years now. I am tired of it. Even I - an American liberal - am getting fed-up with them. I won't be a bigot, but I must tell you that part of me just does not fucking care anymore and a very dark part of me has none-as-in-zero problem with defensive genocide.

[NaultD]

The real fun part of being liberal is aiming to be somewhat stoic and "defensive genocide" is off the charts reactionary.

Zero control of who you are and the person you want to be. It would eat me and kill me every waking day to live like that.

https://youtu.be/G-kSu2QIxUs?si=InF7b2OVbGFCuy7E

[abc3643]

@NaultD Let me put terms you can understand.

I am not advocating what I wrote. I am just expressing frustration that began with watching an entire Olympic team be murdered on live television.
That continued with terrorist activities like losing 283 US troops in Lebanon when you were debuting from your mother's snatch.
That continued when a plane full of innocent people were blown-up over Scotland.
That continued when with assorted other bombings and attempted bombings.
That continued when I watched them live rape my home and kill people I personally knew on 9/11.
That continued when I watched them immolate and behead for "honor".
And that continued when they raped and killed innocents who were simply having a party in October.
And that's only part of it.
But, for 52 years, I've watched and learned.
I've gone from not having an opinion about them to their teaching me about them.

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[abc3643]

I should have hate.
Part of me believes they are cancerous vermin who should be eradicated from the surface of the Earth.

But I don't have that hate and I don't advocate that.
I don't let that consume me.
I won't let the actions of a group of Muslims convey that this is what all Muslims are like.
I've known quite a few.
I am friends with some too and work with several also.
I don't let my anger take over and don't believe that they, too, should be condemned solely because they are Muslim.
Indeed, this website was created by Turkish Muslim immigrants and there is a comparable site in Turkish, Türkiye being a Muslim country.

So, no, I am not fond of Muslims, but I won't let that take over me.

As for "defensive genocide", it is a legitimate concept. It's happened probably 1000s of times in the 2+ million year history of the human genus.
It's what you'd want to do to the cancer that is trying to kill you... You wipe out those who are trying to wipe you out. Pure and simple.
Ask Don Ciccio about it. He didn't succeed and paid the ultimate price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpYRCqqsMlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejsbDQUdXN8

[Levin]

The more immigrants Western Europe takes in, the more their own culture is eroded and destroyed, all the more still you will get called racist, and have to make more reparations.

It's almost as if you should ignore the motherfuckers trying to shame you, and then value your own culture.

[Kaneki05]

Because it is. It's not a secret they literally openly say it themselves.
They find Islam sexist therefore they are Islamophobic.
And that's the one thing me and France agree on but tbf it's still dumb saying one can't wear a headscarves if they so choose.
I have no problem with a woman been sexist to herself lol.

[RebelinSteel]

Because they try to use their own countries ‘rules and freedoms’ against those present in France.

[Julie4]

Look how France treated Catholics

[RebelinSteel]

Well I can see how they treated Huguenots

[Julie4]

You see, it's a completely religious discrimination, not a specific one.

[RebelinSteel]

@julie4 exactly, invariably it’s Americans using their version of Freedom that don’t understand it. A country has laws and its own rules people must follow, it’s fairly simple, don’t like it don’t go there.

[Julie4]

I would like to clarify that contrary to what people say, women have the right to wear the veil in public places and the Burkini is allowed on beaches.

But religious symbols are forbidden in schools and for public service employees. All religious symbols, not just the veil.

[DrPepper12]

Because of the way the gendarmerie police the banlieues!! It's worse than USA policing in minority areas!!

[_Troian_]

Weren't u the one who said France needs another Joan D'Arc few days ago and u would be volunteer for it? 😂

[_piotr]

They do not understand that France should be France, not another islamic caliphate.

[OhLongJohnsoning]

Any country can be anything phobic. My biggest fear is evil clowns

[WodensGedriht]

Because the French are tired of being turned into Wakanda. Just like the rest of the West is.

[Anonymous]

To be fair i have never been there to brand all french people islamophobic.

[Agape93]

Dunno. Nobody's afraid of Islam.

[Ladsin2]

I thought France was a Muslim country...

[eagle1951]

hard to say