Is private censorship normal/good in social media?

[bobby_bush_eater]

This post was recently taken down and the account owner banned, not by moderators but by Reddit the company.

Every single thing he stated here in my opinion is nail on the head perfect (anyone please feel free to try a rebuttal).

However, that's not the point. The point is Reddit is a private organization so they're allowed to take this down. That's fine, one can argue they have no social requirement or responsibilities as a private entity.

If that's the case for a private entity then why does the UK try to control X? Why does the EU want to file lawsuits? Who do they think they are to tell a foreign corporation how to operate and what is real or fake?

Simply because Musk doesn't want to lie and hide narratives like Reddit (and Facebook, IG etc) some of the highest ranking members of foreign governments can threaten litigation and legal penalties with no basis? Why does X not have a right to choose how it operates but Reddit can control the entirety of what's allowed?

It's quite literally an attempt to control and guide thought through algorithmic manipulation, controlled exposure to one side, and censorship to any opposition.

What are your general thoughts on any of this? I think this is truly dystopian to say the least.

[DrPepper12]

It's private. They get to set the terms of service and it's voluntary so if you don't like the product don't participate.

That being said governments also have an interest in preventing misinformation disinformation rumor conspiracy and all kinds of ills that happen on social media. So although they're private they do need an umpire or gatekeeper. It's a very tricky balance.

[OtterMan68]

It's a free market. Trump started his own social media company, and it deletes posts critical of Trump.

[purplepoppy]

OK, reality check. We do know what's real and fake. The fake story that triggered the riots for example. Or that Muslim who faked being chased by rioters who's just been charged for inciting violence. And yes it is the far right causing the trouble. Organisations like the EDL call themselves far right.

As for Musk he's a spoilt attention seeking child looking to stir the shit pot for his own amusement. Innocent people are being assaulted on the streets and having their properties fire bombed. While politicians from BOTH sides and police are trying to calm things he's being dick and fanning the flames.

It's not just the riots, recently an immigrant had his face smashed in with an iron bar by a man and a woman, what do you think caused that kind of hate? Social media.

The reality is a lot of sites simply don't want to be associated with hate posts. Not only is it bad for publicity it drives away companies looking to advertise there. No company wants to see their product advertised next to someone having a racist rant and telling people to burn down a mosque.

[bobby_bush_eater]

Why has the % of violent crime and rape skyrocketed in Malmo, Denmark, Spain, France, Germany, and the UK?

Is that the big bad scary alt right?

Also, you still didn't identify anything wrong in the picture posted.

What about those being arrested in the UK for trying I don't support mass immigration? Or are you going to claim they're all fake when I've seen videos of sentencing from you clown courts.

[NOTHINGEVERHAPPENS]

Politicians don’t benefit from calming the situation. And cops are notorious for being sadists addicted to violence. That’s why domestic abuse rates are so high among cops.

[jshm2]

You need to spend more time in school, and less eating bush. kiddo.

What you have there in that pic is utter right wing bullshit. You should feel ashamed for even reposting it, let alone supporting it.

There is no evidence of "large scale immigration" destroying anything, let alone the so called "middle class". This is because legal immigration is within planned guidelines. No one left or right has "control" over unauthorised immigration.

As for the rest of it, there is no evidence for any of that shit, regardless how often or much you post "evidence".

The facts are that the West NEEDS immigration. Mainly as lazy, odious, White fuckwits are not fit to employ, work, or reproduce. Hence the falling fertility rate, dropping standards of living, and crumbling infrastructure.

They would rather have immigrants who arrive with "nothing," but build up a family and business that they can tax and get work out of. Instead of moochers like yourself working minimum wage, and living off your disappointed parents.

Hence people with your views are banned for hate speech, and misinformation. As the reality is that we need less of you, and more of them.

[bobby_bush_eater]

Do you not see a rent crisis in the majority of America? Houses didn't drop in price when interest rates went up. Real wages didn't match inflation since covid. That's exactly how the middle class gets attacked.

The West needs immigration? 80% of the Syrian refugees in Germany are on government welfare and are unemployed. How's that helping?

Where I live the state bought a hotel loaded it with Hatians and now it needs 24/7 police details (on our towns tax dollars) because they commit so much crime. Their children that don't speak English are in special classes on our dollars while we "assimilate" them. How's this helping?

Either way you're essentially advocating for a slave class, the metaphor of we need them for low skilled labor or our economic system would collapse is 1. False and 2. It's the modern Western equivalent to being pro slavery if you're advocating to keep illegals working shitty jobs getting under paid.

Housing prices along with social media and the political discourse (men going more right women going more left) are contributing more to fertility and the jobs statement is just absurd. The huge economic power of the West is as strong as ever (admittedly this is taken for granted), it's everything else.

It's not hate, different groups behave in different ways, statistics prove this in Europe especially.

[RebelinSteel]

Can you confirm this bit” Simply because Musk doesn't want to lie ”

im fairly sure everyone is convinced he’s a lying arsehole about shares and stock associated with Tesla and Space x. The type of person arrested during the riots is as per this person in link. Pretty much everyone in the UK knows the type, they get involved in Friday n Saturday night fights in town, rob places, etc, basically low life scum.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/judges-scalding-comments-uk-riot-33469976#google_vignette

this guy complained about being arrested. His previous track record is fairly normal for his type. The court was told he had 26 convictions for 170 offences

[bobby_bush_eater]

Doesn't want to lie was not exactly the best wording, I meant does not want to comply with governments and censor based on their wants.

I've seen multiple daily male reports of young men younger than me arrested for simply being near riots. People are getting arrested and doing time for tweeting I don't like mass immigration. You people are blind.

[RebelinSteel]

Very few are getting arrested for simply tweeting, we arrest people for racist tweets and social media posts, no real difference, you try and incite things, expect a visit. Also the sheer number of bots and fake news around the riots are huge.
To give an idea, if say Musk tweets something that is not true, it is tweeted to say 10 million, if the Greater Manchester Police tweet evidence that the news is fake, it’s about 10,000 tweets. Those 10 million musk tweets hit a shit load of bots and fake profiles, all with farmed numbers to say another million each. There has been some good investigations on how telegram, tweets and links to Russia all hang together.

[bobby_bush_eater]

I understand all that and believe me far more than Russia interfere with that stuff (China, NK, Azerbaijan, etc, it's impossible to stop most of it as IG and others fail too) but many are being arrested for attending any protests. All of that aside though, simply answer one thing.

Why have rapes and stabbings increased in London? Is it because Russian disinformation? Why is Malmo one of the most dangerous cities in the world now? Did the swedes go mad?

[RebelinSteel]

Erm it’s actually illegal here to be at riots, we used to have this thing called the Riot act, if it was read anyone in the vicinity was arrested, shot etc. Now we just arrest everyone and put them through the courts as fast as possible, we did same with London riots a few years back. Those attending riots, tend to shop lift and steal shit.
Stabbings have increased in loads of places, the thing is it’s down to people that actually live here, go to school, etc. we have enough natural born here fuckwits.
Malmo is not one of the most dangerous cities in the world, in the last couple of years what’s the death rate between, say New York, Chicago and the entirety of Sweden.

[bobby_bush_eater]

I'll admit I do have some ignorance to British law when it comes to speech and assembly. From the outside perspective, it looks extremely authoritarian.

NYC and Chicago are awful, you'll hear no rebuttal from me there. But I will ask is there any demographics that commit all the violent crime at a higher rate?

Also, those 2 cities are also USA sanctuary cities, not sure how familiar you are with that so I'll give you the run down. A lot of permeant liberal cities and states made all these places "sanctuary states or cities" for illegal immigrants in line with their policies to not deport (think NYC, Chicago, Boston, DC). They used to get very few illegals though and nothing from the border, now Texas and other border states bring the illegals there because they all claim asylum. Instead of coming to their senses the state governments mostly buy or lease hotels (varying quality but some are really nice) and other large structures where they're fed and given $600 a month to live. Pair that with what was already going on in NYC and Chicago and you have today.

Malmo ranked in the top 100 most dangerous cities in the world (76th on numbeo), the first time a swedish city ever made it. 20 years ago rape was almost non-existent there. Now it's changed, why?

[NOTHINGEVERHAPPENS]

Is it legal? Yes. Totally. Normal? Unfortunately. Good? Certainly not.

[Juxtapose]

I think any platform that engages in censorship should have its platform protections revoked.

[DryGermanGuy]

I stopped reading after "Marxists", you just know this can't be anything else than another typical one-dimensional ragebaiting post.

[bobby_bush_eater]

So you won't refute any of its points? Race is also never mentioned here.

[DryGermanGuy]

Oh, there are actually points to be made? Because if someone has to lower the communication level down to the dumbest, most extreme accusations, I assume there is not much substance following.