Is it a dangerous time to be a Jew in USA? A Muslim? Why? What groups are responsible for this situation? Which party is more welcoming to Jews?

[DrPepper12]

NB: CRITICISM OF ISRAELI POLICY IS NOT, I REPEAT, NOT ANTI-SEMITISM. FOR THOSE WHO THINK THIS IS A QUESTION OR FORUM FOR THAT BIGOTRY, THINK AGAIN!! YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!!

I'm already presuming that everyone is familiar with the broad outlines of the LONG history in that region and the current Israeli-Palestinian conflict and that the current situation is largely due to the events of October 7th. I'd like to hear from you about groups and institutions that are responsible for the current situation in the USA or rising to defend Jews in the USA, what their motivations or processes are and if you approve or disapprove.

[bobby_bush_eater]

In the USA they're both safe. Nobody in the USA is being persecuted on this basis. Maltreatment of both groups or "racism" and "anti-Semitism" are definitely taking place but it's largely the individual doing such illegal activities.

Muslims have had this ongoing for a long time, I think things for them though are better than 20 years ago (or anytime near 9/11). For Jews right now it's definitely the worst it's been in awhile but nobody is being persecuted and they are seemingly treated as a special class by our government bar the few Islamic extremists in Congress like Omar.

A lot of unintelligent people seem to think Israel, is representative of every Jew on the planet. This leads and many youths blindly protesting what they assess to be a genocide then wrongly taking their frustrations on whoever is there (ie. American/local Jews or arguing with the police).

Historically both parties have done a lot of bad. I do not care to go through history and weigh the scales, there is a lot of points on both sides but it's the Muslims that attack the premise of the argument which dates back to the Ottomans.

In conclusion, I don't like either side and wish the USA would stay out of it and stop importing unskilled migration of absolutely any sort.

[Ladsin2]

Seems at the moment worse to be a Jew. Criticism of Israeli policy is antisemitism when you hold the only Jewish state in the world to a different standard than you do any other nation.

[exitseven]

There is a large antisemitic wing of the democrat party. A lot of these people are real fanatics and nobody knows how many terrorists have come through the southern border and allowed to roan free inside the whole country. It is open season on Jews on a lot of college campuses.

Trump is pro Israel and is a good friend of Netanyahu. The democrats support the kill the jews crowd.

[DrPepper12]

All due respect I think many MAGAs confuse criticism of Israeli policy with anti-Semitism. HOWEVER some Democrats have expressed this in very unartful and possibly inappropriate ways

[exitseven]

Hamas killed Jews on Oct 7th and will continue. They want to exterminate them. Trump is right when he told Netanyahu that he needs to finish this.

[DrPepper12]

Do you consider Israeli response moraly just and proportional?

[exitseven]

Yes, do it to them before they can do it to you

[DrPepper12]

To civilians? To life sustaining infrastructure? To NGOs? How much "collateral damage" is acceptable?

[exitseven]

Hamas purposely locates their bases in hospitals or schools and the Palestinians let them get away with it. It is like pitching a tent on a runway at O'Hare Airport and camping there.

[DrPepper12]

Let's them get away with it? They're fucking terrorists!!! They terrorize Palestinians too!!!

If you think Israeli response is just and proportional I HAFTA question your ethics, morality and humanity

[exitseven]

There are a lot more Palestinians than there are Hamas. They could stand up to them. Or else they could ask for help. The US helps everyone else, why not them. ?

[Kaneki05]

Jews make up such a small population in US I doubt it's a dangerous time for them.
As I imagine no one thinks about them.
And it's even less over here in UK that they practically don't exist.
Think I've seen one orthodox in my entire life.

[normalice]

Right wingers have always tried to make it dangerous for these groups. But now that Israel has removed its own klan hood the left no longer defends them, so right wing violence against jews would go relatively unprotested by the left. Of course, with Israel being such blatant Nazis it shouldn't take too long for the far right in the US to identify jews as allies - but until that sinks in (and right wingers are not known for having things sink in quickly) these are dangerous times for jews.

[bobby_bush_eater]

I didn't realize it's all the right wingers protesting Israel at colleges. There have been peaceful, not peaceful, and antagonized protests but ultimately targeting the average American Jew is the only real outcome of these leftist protests. The government doesn't care what they think, and these people won't actually study a candidate who opposes the massive Israeli lobbyists. Instead, they just vote for the party to further perpetuate our congressional cycle of funding Israel non stop.

All the politicians expect Muslims (just as bias) and Massie love Israel (AIPAC).

It's the right who are calling out the historical power that Jews have wielded. The hindsight approach works only when it's based on facts which is where a lot of them go towards conspiracy.

The left is focused on Gaza while your leftist politicians still overwhelmingly send bombs to Israel.

Both sides are handling this differently and poorly but you want to still play party politics.

[normalice]

Oh it was probably left wingers protesting. I'm talking about lynching and holocausting. That was the right.

[bobby_bush_eater]

Are you referring to Leo Frank or Nazi Germany or both? The KKK that literally sided with a black guy against...

The ADL is an absolute dog shit organization though.

[normalice]

I can't figure out what you are saying but I meant nazis.

[bobby_bush_eater]

I thought when you said lynching you were referring to Leo Frank incident since the topic is USA centric.

It just had its "anniversary" and the ADL posted about it, my mistake.

You also cannot compare the Republican party of the USA today to Nazi Germany with the umbrella term "right". Unless you want to immediately invoke the same response for the atrocities of the USSR and Maoist China equaling a USA Democrat today since it is the "left".

[normalice]

Of course I can as we don't have a sitting US president who watched Maoists run over normal people and then say there were good people on both sides.

[bobby_bush_eater]

You're right, our president is a feeble old man who the media protected by lying about his health and clear dementia. He also stepped down in what was essentially a coup where we now have a magic candidate who won 0 delegate and campaigned horribly on her own.

That party is also attacking third parties like the Green party candidates to ensure they "save democracy". Governors on that side are also passing laws to protect themselves from election interference but sure, let's focus on WW2.

Also, objectively their were good men in the Nazi regime. Perspective is something lost on many as is the US poaching of Germany and Japan post WW2.

[normalice]

Yes, he refused to say fascists are good people because he is feeble. You people are so weird 😅

[SimbaMilky]

I have heard of the following: American Jewish Committee, American Jewish Historical Society, and Facts for Peace. If you are interested, i suggest checking them out. Also, i am not sure if this is the right platform (quora might be better) for these topics

[Anonymous]

Republicans have long hated all non-Christians and non-whites. But Trump made it mainstream to express it publically again and set all sorts of human decency back many decades, if not a century.

[thearchjoker]

It is a dangerous time to be a Jew in the US and UK, since Hamas invaded Israel there has been a extreme rise in violence against jews in the west.

[Juxtapose]

Yes, it's dangerous to be a Jew because pro-Palestinian people want to genocide them.

[Juxtapose]

"From the river to the sea" is genocide.

[DrPepper12]

Without considering the entirety of what's going on in the region for 5,000 years I think that's disingenuous.

[Juxtapose]

What's going on NOW is a genocide attempt orchestrated by Yasser Arafat. The entire Palestinian identity is a cover to genocide Jews. Arabs are proud to be arab, there is no Palestine. It was first a colonial project invented by the British lol.