What social custom do you wish would end and why?

[laly520]

[dragoblack]

How men in the USA are mandatorily supposed to financially-cover, carry, and mentally gymnastic the whole dating processes and how men are not allowed to be emotional or talk about their feelings.

It takes 2 to form a relationship, if you sit back and only enjoy the benefits, but put no effort into showing who you are as a person, you are just using us and showing no reason to pursue. Also, it's not the 1950s, everyone is struggling, and we don't have time or money to waste on those who just want to use us, abuse us, and waste our time.
It's gotten into a social habit, that women think it's mandatory for guys to carry the date and pay for everything the woman wants. so, now we are being scammed for free drinks, free meals, and other shite (many of the times it being stupidly expensive), only to leave us shafted.
Not only that, just trying to talk to women who have interest in us, we can't even get a basic conversation of interests, or say anything without 1 word or insignificant thing giving women the "ick". It's like walking on a 1mm thick tempered glass floor, suspended over an oubliette.

Many of us guys are tired of being used, dehumanized, emotionally & financially abused, and have given up on the dating process being a thing all together, and just doing hookups.

I know guys are responsible for women needing safety tactics when it comes to dating,... but i have no idea where the rest of this toxic, entitled, drama causing, subtexting everything, narcissistic, bullshite has come from.
Is it the unrealistic portrayals of romance in novels, shows, & movies? Lies put out by entertainment stars & scandal drama? The abusive/grooming sugardaddies? The female worship pedestal women get put on, when it comes to romance standards? The amount of convenience in society?
It gets worse with everything generation too there's fewer and fewer women out there wanting to actually treat men like people, unless they are prettyboy attractive.

I know it seems like I'm projecting... which i slightly am..., but i am going off of forums, social study & research articles, talking with friends & people at my local hangouts & places i travel, personal experiences, and even youtubers online.
Dating & romance in society has just gotten straight up toxic and self-destructive.

I honestly don't know if it's different outside of the USA, but i really hope it's healthier than here.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

IT IS different outside of USA, although it's probably not so much USA the issue? I mean, I don't know where you live specifically in US, but what you're facing seems like a culture VERY oriented towards traditional values. Which basically sucks, yes, if you don't like that much the trad trope.

But again, if that is really what you feel in your place and circles, take a plane and get off from where you live. ASAP.

[dragoblack]

@Maybe_Maybe_not i wish i could, but I'm this thing called "poor". I already live in one of the cheapest states to live in. so, unless cost of living goes down to $400 for rent in a good apartment and utilities all together costing $200, I'm stuck where i am.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Okay then... If your town is wide enough, there's a good chance that what you see is just one of the subcultures available around you, there are more, but you need to find them, to understand where they are, which places, which people

[NamerOfStars]

Probably several, but off the top of my head: the lack of pricing transparency.

You go to a gas station, and gas costs $2.95.9 a gallon. You buy ten gallons, and hand the clerk three sawbucks. How much change do you get? Forty one cents- because the listed price IS the price. None of this "plus tax" nonsense; what they say is what you pay. We need that for everything, everywhere.

Now, people will say "you can't do that will national advertising; an ad can't tell people what their local price is". Well, with modern ultra-targeted ads, you very much can- but that doesn't apply to TV commercials and newspapers, so okay, THAT gets a pass. But I'd be surprised if there was even ONE store where the shelves and the registers were in a different pricing zone. List the actual price.

And yes, I'd extend this to tipping. Pay your employees the money they need to survive, damn it. Yes, that will make the costs go up, but every person who is, or who has ever been, poor will appreciate knowing whether they can afford to do what they actually want to, and won't be sidelined at the last second by a spike in cost that you couldn't be bothered to tell them about.

I want to see a world where you can walk into a car dealership, ask how much a given car costs, immediately be given a specific number, hand that specific number of dollars and cents to the salesman, and then be handed the keys and receipt and drive off.

I am not, in fact, Bob Cody, but this world seems like it's determined to change that.

[Kelley1]

Sending children to indoctrination centers known as public schools instead of allowing parents how best to educate their children. Even if you support the belief that society should support educating children the money should go the the parents who would use the money to chose a school or home school their children.

It doesn't matter that a few parents may take the money and not educate their children with inadequate home schooling because percentage of under educated home schooled children would be far less then the percentage of under educated children sent to public schools.

[DrPepper12]

So you would be ok with for charter schools? Public funds used at for profit schools?

[Kelley1]

@DrPepper12 Whatever! If we use public funds, to pay for children's education, I want the money to go to the parents. The government is unfit to make the decisions.

[DrPepper12]

So capitalism for a public good? Why stop there? The military is a TRUE indoctrination center and government so why don't we hire for profit mercenaries instead? What could possibly go wrong?

[Kelley1]

@DrPepper12 That would be much better.

[DrPepper12]

You're brain damaged if you honestly believe what you're saying. I prefer to think of you as a troll because no one would say this stuff.

[Kelley1]

@DrPepper12 It is hopeless to explain the facts to someone like you when you are not capable of thinking outside of your experience.

[SugarSugarplum]

Small-talk on work calls.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

About this, what can I say... Resisting the urge to be downright political:

Maybe not that resisting. I wish we would end one specific custom, this custom allows us to walk freely in the streets, unconcerned and unimpressed about the sufferings, deep down inside, many random guys and girls feel when we cross their path. It's not just about homeless guys, it's way more encompassing than that, it talks about all of us. But then, what would happen when all of this would be registered by everyone, how to live a life that would transform the landscape to such an extreme extent? I don't know. I can't begin to know, this is so extreme.

[andreasderjuengere]

There are some ''new'' social customs that I'd like to see disappear: as a first selection:

- categorizing

- political ''correctness''

- dating ''rules''

- ''like, share'' and ''follow''

- @movements of all meaningless kinds

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

I fell the urge to like this, I can't follow, and don't worry I won't share. Most probably. :D

[andreasderjuengere]

@Maybe_Maybe_not that's a good start, heh heh

[strateguy632]

People controlling what me and others are allowed to say using shouts and anger and censored "offensive".

The first thing i learned in kindergarten is kids are allowed to be offensive to me.

Time to grow up and reach first grade instead of whining about offensive.

Nobody likes a snitch but society is getting encouraged to snitch and report everyone. Especially a political rival.

[llorando]

Men paying for dates. It was necessary back in the day when the majority of the workforce was men, but now the work force is roughly 50/50, so women no longer need the man to pay for dates. Not advocating women pay for dates, just pointing out women now have the means that they can pay for their share of the date.

[Anonymous]

The one about men always having to be the ones to approach a woman, ask her out AND pay for it. The whole "whoever asks should pay" thing is bullshit because men are always the ones who have to ask and risk rejection, and the thanks we get for that is also having to pay. How convenient for women.

Women claim to want equality, but they really don't. They want all the rights and privileges men have, but none of the drawbacks of being a man.

[Anonymous]

Men having to do things for women simply because they’re women. If they want to do it ok but it shouldn’t be expected. It’s 2024 we’re equal.

[KostasKouvalis]

Worship and special treatment of military people

[strateguy632]

But they took risks that i didn't take!

[KostasKouvalis]

@strateguy632 That's their problem. No one forced them. They killed Bin Laden. So what? I still have to take my shoes off at the airport and can't bring water because there's thousands more like him.
FIRE FIGHTERS are far more deserving. They put their lives on the line every summer to protect people's houses from burning down and they don't get the kind of respect and appreciation that soldiers do.

[KostasKouvalis]

It might not bother me if they were polite and humble, but they're such dicks and they get special treatment and free shit and it still isn't enough! Fire-fighters are far more honorable people and don't get this kind of treatment

[KostasKouvalis]

I can still understand if they were drafted, but the ones who enlisted of their own free will have no right to complain about anything

[legalboxers]

shaking hands. We can bow like they do in Japan

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

hahaha

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Wokeness, karen stuff and people abusing "freedom".

[Agape93]

Slut shaming

[mandyfire98]

Fully agreed. Double standards in general.

[DrPepper12]

This!!! ⬆️⬆️⬆️

[DrPepper12]

Tipping. I HATE it and I used to live off tips!!

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

haha, well then, I can't resist, here's a tip:

[Iron_Man]

Bowing down to each other, Japanese style

[Juxtapose]

Censorship in general.

[Ladsin2]

Lack of care. Lauding mediocrity.

[eagle1951]

not sure i would want any of them to end

[Dongie]

Everything liberal.