Do you trust the mass media?

[blueonblack22]

The mass media has reinvented themselves and gone from horrible to beyond deranged by how they manufactured out of whole cloth the so called “excitement” for Kamala Harris. Like she is new and “fresh faced” despite being are sitting vice president for the last 3 years and 9 months.

Now Kamala is running away from interviews and debates and that’s no coincidence. Here is the mass media’s plan (and they concocted it lightning quick):

> promote this bullshit narrative about how “wonderful” she is (when she is actually incompetent and worthless).

> give her scripted interviews and never ask her a hard question lest risking her laughing like Joaquin Phoenix in “the Joker” in response.

> deflect any criticism of Kamala as “sexism” or racism.

> create a human centipede bullshit loop among the DNC and the whole mass media network. Promote a false image her (same way they do in communist countries) hoping that impressionable low information voters are stupid enough to vote her in. The mass media believes the average American is a naive moron.

Kamala had a 28% approve just six f’ing weeks ago! What happened since then to boost her approval? Did she invent the cure for cancer?

Anyway if you are a hardcore democrat (who of course hates Trump) and would vote for a blue coffee cup with a D on it then fine. Go ahead and vote for Kamala despite her incompetence. Just go ahead even though her economic policy will likely hurt you as well (hyperinflation). Be woke and “feel” the joy.

But if you are undecided please use your brain and look at what’s going to impact your very life: policy. Look at what America was like (economy, crime, border) when Trump was in office vs when Biden is in office (and Kamala was VP). Talk is cheap. Policy is what matters.

Kamala has answered literally zero questions about policy because she doesn’t f’ing have one. And for the things she is “promising” why hasn’t she got anything done in the last four years while she was VP?

The mass media journalists are really mass media activists. I know when a CNN journalist is lying when his mouth is moving

The mass media is obviously biased. But I don’t care. It benefits the party I support.

The mass media tries to be impartial.

The mass media favors conservatives. It’s doesn’t matter if CNN, MSNBC, NBC, New York Times obliviously lean left. Fox News in the problem.

Don’t care. I don’t watch the news.

Updates

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So it’s going to be impossible for me to find a news article from a leftist source that admits Kamala has no policy. But this national review article is the EXACTLY what I am talking about. She never discussed her plan because she has NONE. And if she had any new bright ideas what did she do anything about it as VP? www.nationalreview.com/.../

[RebelinSteel]

Some is relatively okay, as long as you do some checking, others such as Musk with Twitter, is downright dangerous and has so much fake stuff on it, he even further tweets fake stories, especially those that grab interest by extremists. Mass media is far more than some election, it impacts globally.

[blueonblack22]

Mark Zuckerberg just recently flat out admitted the Biden administration pressured him during lockdown to censor “misinformation” including satire. He did censor the hunter laptop story and after all the government said it was “misinformation”.

So why should the public trust a coterie of elites to trust what is true and “misinformation”.

You don’t hear about conversatives wanting to censor leftist misinformation no matter how much they hate it.

The most recent example is Trump’s so called “endorsement of 2025”. He doesn’t even know what the hell it is. He openly disowned it. But leftists just couldn’t let go of that debunked myth. Did that get fact checked on social media? Of course not.

[RebelinSteel]

The bit where is said it was global, I don’t give a toss about Trump or Binden, I care even less for Zuckerberg.
It is the GLOBAL impact of lying fuckwits like Musk and Twitter, then various idiotic newspapers that are just as lose with the truth, never let the truth get in the way of making up a good story.
Musk has repeatedly tweeted fake, made up, completely false stories and is one of the least trustworthy people on the planet.
When you have an arsehole like him tweeting to millions of followers, it’s like lighting a forest fire.

[blueonblack22]

It’s funny how democrats used to love Elon musk when he built Tesla and EVs. He also used to heavily donate and support democrats back in the Obama years. But now he stood up to Telsa and bought twitter he’s the “icon of evil” because he’s standing up to censorship.

Do you know why he bought twitter? Because Twitter banned the Babylon Bee which is conservative SATIRE publication. That was the final straw with him. But leftists don’t even tolerate satire and parody when it comes to criticizing their doctrine.

babylonbee.com/news/twitter-has-shut-down-the-bee

[blueonblack22]

It’s going to impossible to find a left leaning news source that admits Kamala has no solid policy (and again policy is WHAT MATTERS). The national review is obviously a conservative news source. But this article is the truth about her campaign @Caroline91

www.nationalreview.com/.../

[blueonblack22]

“ But now he stood up to censorship”.

[RebelinSteel]

To reiterate I don’t care about democrats or republicans or any individuals, this was about how bad Musk is and as an example of not trusting media, as that is what he pushes Twitter into. He has pretty lied as part of dealings with Tesla and with Twitter and it’s fairly constant with fake stories.

[blueonblack22]

I don’t disagree the Elon can be a nut at times. This is common with extremely wealthy/successful people.

But he is the first influential rich person to stand up to the disgusting censorious nature of Big Tech. That doesn’t mean everything he says is true. But he’s got balls.

[RebelinSteel]

But he lies, he actually lies. If you run one of the biggest social media / media outlets in the world, everything you say as that persona MUST be true, people die, get arrested because of what he says. Also in the US (unlike most countries) everything is political, at the moment he is for Trump and that side sings his praises, what happens when he is against him?
Or when you have a position like the US that you have State controlled media by default.
Also he censors a lot about his business as much as everyone.

[blueonblack22]

Is Elon a politician? Is he a journalist? He’s an influencer but it’s not his job to give his opinion or report the news. And people are getting arrested in England for “misinformation” posts (average people). The founder of telegram was arrested in France for not censoring content on his platform.

The mass media got lots of people killed and property destroyed by promoting the myth that police are systematically racist towards minorities. And it’s THEIR JOB to report the truth. It’s not Elon Musks job to report the news though. He isn’t a journalist.

[RebelinSteel]

Yes but he is and has responsibility. A cinema or stadium has a fire system and security. He is basically shouting out from a huge position of responsibility, Fire, Gunman, then saying nothing to do with me when people killed in the crush to escape his lie.
There is a fair chance that Twitter will be shut down across Europe.
What no country needs is some fuckwit spreading fake news across the country, it was almost hysterical on GaG the numbers that reposted stuff that was factually wrong.

[exitseven]

@blueonblack22 I doubt that Zuckerberg really had to be pressured by the Biden Administration to bury the truth aout his involvement with foreign governments. Zuckerburg has been in the tank doe the democrats the whole time.
He is trying to give himself some cover in the hope that President Trump leaves him alone.

[blueonblack22]

@exitseven removing content can hurt advertising revenue (which is what Zuckerberg really cares about).

He’s definitely a democrat but he isn’t as bad as some of the other big tech media bros. Former twitter CEO Jack Dorsey was horrible.

[Juxtapose]

Kamala Harris is a fraud and corporate media is not to be trusted.

[supercutebutt]

:)

Trump is going to lose and MAGA cultists are melting down!

:)

[blueonblack22]

Thank you for you very insightful response @supercutebutt. Thank you for once again living up to the stereotype.

@Caroline91 you know when I mention “low information” voters? Above is picture perfect example.

But then again supercutebutt used to have her profile set as being from the UK. Now she just so ironically changed it to Michigan which is a key swing state. Coincidence 🤔

[supercutebutt]

... and here come the lies.

You vile cultists can NEVER tell the truth. At no point in history have I ever said I was from the UK. It never happened.

This is why Trump will lose. People are sick of your disgusting gaslighting. Nobody even understands what you people want.

[blueonblack22]

I am going to admit I got you mixed up with purple poppy (and she’s from the UK) and you both have the same personalities. But still I have a hard time believing you are from Michigan.

Anyway so let’s say you get what you want (Kamala). Unless you are trust fund baby or won the lotto I hope you can look forward to more insane hyperinflation and a lower quality of life. And the funny thing is this harms the working class and American minorities the most. Makes life miserable for the very people the democrats claim to “care about”.

[Caroline91]

Just our of curiosity: What are your information sources?

[blueonblack22]

Here is a leftist NYT article about her ducking interviews and the press (they make as many excuses as possible for her of course). The point being is the NYT is admitting she’s avoiding the press and 110% BS. www.nytimes.com/.../...arris-press-interviews.html

[blueonblack22]

This shows her approval rating at 28% back in November 2021. But I knew it was that low even more recently prior to her “announcing” (and stealing from Biden) her candidacy www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-approval-rating-historic-low-compared-to-other-vp-2021-11

[Caroline91]

Ok. Thanks for giving sources and also your update. I don't see any of this as a problem for Harris. I don't see how it is unreasonable for her to focus on getting her campaign up and running and getting through the convention, all of which is being covered by the media, before doing interviews. It should be noted that the National Review is an ultra conservative magazine and website and the "article" you reference in not a news article, but an opinion column by Jim Geraghty. Just some thoughts.

[blueonblack22]

I know the national review is a far right publication. But what mainstream media source is going to openly admit that Harris is dodging the press and interviews where she might get asked a hard question?

A candidates POLICY (not personality) directly impacts our countries economy, safety (domestic and abroad), personal freedoms and our culture. If you vote for them just because they are a celebrity then your a low information fool.

Trump love him or hate him has NEVER shied away from tough questions and hostile interviews. He speaks his mind. You KNOW what you are getting. Harris on the other hand has intentionally obscured her intentions.

If you hate Trump’s personality fine (I am not a fan of his rhetoric either). But with him you KNOW what you are getting. And again talk is CHEAP. Hard policy is what matters. I thought moderate democrats would have learned their lesson with the gross incompetence of the Biden administration (hyperinflation, wars abroad, border crisis, etc). But it seems like they so many are insanely impressionable.

[blueonblack22]

Also about the whole gender thing. I did NOT want Trump to win the primaries. My first choice was DeSantis and second choice was Nikki Haley. I would gladly vote for a female candidate as long as her POLICY aligns for what is best for this country. Obviously I have no trust for Harris’ policy.

But I am so fed up with the bs DEI excuse that “men won’t vote for her just because she’s a woman”. NO. That’s absolute bs in 2024. The vast majority of men would gladly vote for a woman IF they like her policy. And logically we see Harris as horrible choice when it comes to that.

[Caroline91]

I hear you. But all I said was it is not unreasonable for her to put off interviews until she has a chance to get her campaign up and running and to get through the convention. And now, her first interview is set to air tonight. Yes, you are certainly right that with Trump, we know exactly what we are getting. The only thing is to choose do you want that or not? And, if you watch, you will see the same with Harris. Give it a minute.

[blueonblack22]

We are literally two months away from the general election. Early voting starts NEXT MONTH. She’s putting off interviews and pushing this faux “joy” bs to obscure what she is really about.

The truth is she horrible with interviews. She’s got a nervous tick of laughing maniacally when she is asked a difficult question. Her campaign is doing all they can to obscure that so they can give a false “joy” impression and low information voters will fall for it.

I obviously don’t like Harris. But I beyond hate the mass media for concocting all this bs to protect Harris. Her policies will directly impact both your and my very lives. Americans have a right to know what her policies are.

[Caroline91]

I respectfully disagree in regard to Harris. And I am not a low information voter. My degree is actually in Communication and Public Policy.

[blueonblack22]

Alright I gave my two cents. And I never called you personally a “low information voter”. But a lot of people vote on optics and feelings and the mass media knows it. They don’t take their time to research the candidates policy and the mass media also knows it.

Seriously look at every picture CNN, MSNBC, etc puts up about Trump. They always show pictures of him grimacing (since 2015). Sure Trump is an older man and is verbally combative. But is he ALWAYS grimacing? But they always show picture of democrat politicians smiling and looking pleasant. It’s brainwashing via optics.

If you did you due diligence on researching Harris’ policies vs Trumps (economic, foreign policy, border) and make a decision to vote for Harris then fine. I think you have the critical thinking to do so. But I am terrified about how many Americans vote based on “emotion”. And the mass media is purposely trying to manipulate those people. And that sadly says a lot about our country.

[Caroline91]

I just want to note, I didn't feel you were calling me a "low information voter." I was just noting that I am not. There is a lot of the gist of what you say that I totally agree with. I just think you are wrong about Harris. I respect how you present things and, especially, the effort you put into due diligence. This is a case where it would be nice not to have to text so much because there could be a good exchange of ideas and information. I think a forum like this is inherently limited in being able to achieve that.

[blueonblack22]

Well if anybody wants to see how Harris will perform they can easily see how she performed as VP. Before all the media hoopla she had a approval lower then Biden (which is hard to pull off). Why is she suddenly the “darling candidate”? What exactly has she done to prove she will be an effective candidate.

I know lots of Americans are “excited” about having a first female candidate. But reality and the rest for the world doesn’t care if she’s a woman. Hyperinflation and the economy won’t magically improve just because she’s a woman. The Israel Gaza war won't stop just because she’s a woman. The Ukraine Russia war sure as hell won't end just because the USA elected a female president.

You have been respectful and I appreciate that. I would be totally with a female president. But if our first female (minority) president fails our country spectacularly then how is that going to reflect on women? Think about that.

[Caroline91]

I've been watching Harris for years. Long before she even made her 2020 bid for the nomination. I am from the same city she is from. I have sifted through a lot of information about her for years. and watched her performance in numerous positions, in real time, since I was 12 years old. I know her real record and I think time will show that she has the intelligence, knowledge and ability to be a capable president. Time will show, if she is elected.

[blueonblack22]

Alright fair enough. But just curious do you know about her whole history with Willie Brown? The mass media has scrubbed any mention of that (but scream incessantly about Stormy Daniels when it came to Trump)

But you did your due diligence. I respect that. Doesn’t mean I agree with your decision but again you thought it through. That’s is 100% better then any body voting just because they think “Trump is threat to democracy and a dictator” projection bs.

[Caroline91]

Yes, I know about her and Willie Brown. There are social media posts that Kamala Harris with former Mayor Willie Brown, saying “married 60 year old Willie Brown” and “his 29 year old mistress, Kamala.” Although the photo appears to be authentic, he was separated from his wife for more than a decade when he and Harris dated in the mid-1990s. Their relationship, which ended in 1995, was not a secret.

[blueonblack22]

Well it’s a “secret” now when it comes to the mass media.

[supercutebutt]

Fat Trump is the one with zero policies. He is running on hatred and division. He flip-flops on everything except those two things.

[blueonblack22]

@supercutebutt do you know the difference between disagreement and hate?

@Caroline91 and myself obviously disagree on political issues. But look at how she confronts me on it above. We actually had a good intellectual conversation despite me knowing she will most likely vote democrat (and she knows I will most likely vote republican).

But are you even capable of an intelectual conversation with someone you disagree with? And yes I wrongly accused you of being from the UK (because purple poppy who so from the UK argues just like you do and she’s around your same age). I owned up to it. Do you think me admitting I made mistake makes feel “defeated” or some nonsense? F*ck no.

But I don’t think you are even capable of having an intellectual conversation with someone who disagrees with you. That takes too much mental effort. You rather troll.

Well troll all you want. But good luck winning over people to your cause that way particularly swing voters.

[Caroline91]

@blueonblack22 Thank you. I have enjoyed our interaction on this.

[blueonblack22]

@Caroline91 likewise.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Your question is not internationalized, can't answer, not in US

[exitseven]

I was reading this while eating lunch. Pepsi just squirted out of my nose.

[supercutebutt]

"Pepsi" must be your euphemism for Trump's semen.

[Caroline91]

@supercutebutt That kind of comment is really uncalled for. I have respected and enjoyed a lot of your comments on other threads and wish you would elevate your contributions to this discussion, please.

[supercutebutt]

Oh wow, @Caroline91. I hope your pearls can survive the forceful clutching you are giving them. :)

[exitseven]

@supercutebutt Show some class why don't you.

[supercutebutt]

@exitseven LOL!
You literally worship a rapist.

[exitseven]

@supercutebutt You worship a boat load of liars, thieves and weirdos.

[supercutebutt]

Worms haven't eaten OUR brains. You & your people apparently have tiny, squishy, tasty brains that worms can't resist.
🪱🧠

[Caroline91]

@supercutebutt Oh for God's sake, stop. There is no reason for this. I'm pretty sure you really are better than this.

[blueonblack22]

@Caroline91 she already insulted you with the “pearl clutching” comment. She can’t be reasoned with. But I give you kudos for trying. At least you realize it’s people like her who makes all leftists look bad.

The problem is she has no fear of reprisal in society for her behavior. She doesn’t have to fear losing her job via cancel culture. She doesn’t worry about having a landlord having to kick out of her place because of her political beliefs. Her social media posts won’t be censored or her account shut down for being so called “hateful” content. She talk about “Trump semen” incessantly, scream about all republicans being nazis/fascists, get up likes from people who are just as stupid as her and that’s enough to keep her narrow false reality going.

Also I have no idea what she looks like but young men are more likely to tolerate her BS (even if they hate it) just so they can get laid.

Many young leftist women however will very quickly reject conservative men EVEN IF the man isn’t openly talking about it and/or bringing up politics. Most of them won’t give a guy a chance just to hear him out.

Sure might be for the best they don’t date a conservative men (or vice versa). However they won’t even associate or talk to these men to at least get to know them. They don’t want to take the risk of humanizing them.

Many young “modern” leftist women NEVER want to put themselves in a position where they could be legitimately challenged on their beliefs. Not all but too many. It’s just the idea of using real logic and real mental effort terrifies them.

So they rather keep to their (increasingly narrow) cliques. Even if that means not associating with other democrats who disagree with them too much.

[Caroline91]

@blueonblack22 lol, Mr. Blue (no political implication intended). Don't worry about it... I've got my big girl pants on and insults are like water off a duck's back! Anyway, she's not off the mark... I do own and am quite fond of a lovely strand of real antique pearls. But I swear, I think she needs to unclench that butt she likes to brag about!

[blueonblack22]

@Caroline91 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[supercutebutt]

Leave my butt out of this. 🍑

[Caroline91]

@supercutebutt Gladly... You can borrow my pearls anytime... lol. Peace?

[exitseven]

@Caroline91 no she is not