Are schools supposed to be danger zones?

[OddBeMe]

Learn them early on American violence!
2 dead kids, 2 dead teachers in Georgia, shot by 14 year old kid. I will assume with PARENT’S GUN

[Drewtate]

Just look at England. No guns and 3 dead kids stabbed to death and 9 injured. We need to after the causes which is statistically linked to antidepressants

[OddBeMe]

And if they had guns? What if this Georgia kid only had a knife?

[Drewtate]

Yeah and what if England banned knives, oh wait they did that

[OddBeMe]

They banned knives? Kitchen knives? Pearing knives? See if a gun had any other use besides killing something this might be a relevant line of argument. But since not, this is stupid.

[Drewtate]

They did that. It's ilegal to have a knife on you in England yet it doesn't seem to matter.

[OddBeMe]

And the problem?

[Drewtate]

Antidepressants

[msc545]

You're drenching up this old accusation about antidepressants are you? How about you provide some convincing data that there's a relationship between antidepressants and sort of thing you're talking about?

[Drewtate]

@msc545 the proof is every shooter

[msc545]

We all know how important gun ownership is, so why worry about a few dead kids and a few dead teachers. People can always have m, more kids, and teachers just cause trouble according to the right wing, so who cares really?

[Walksbehindtherows]

Are you serious? Oh dear, I don't even want to go to the USA for a trip

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

@Walksbehindtherows He is being ironical

[OddBeMe]

@Maybe_Maybe_not actually not really. We prioritize people having guns over kids lives. Guaranteed this Georgia kid took his fathers guns from an easily accessible gun rack.

[OddBeMe]

@Walksbehindtherows But the cities are quite safe. So come to America!

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Well I mean ironical in the sense that, it's okay, lol, everyone sane is getting the point.

[OddBeMe]

@Maybe_Maybe_not of course. But again, he’s factually correct. We as a society prioritize gun access to children’s lives. Full stop.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

I believe you 100%

[purplepoppy]

Is this news? I thought America had a school shooting everywhere.

[OddBeMe]

So we’re apathetic now?

[purplepoppy]

It seems that way. One time an American school shooting was headline news around the world, now it only gets a quick mention. It's as newworthy as small traffic accident.

[OddBeMe]

Well that’s depressing.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

They are not, guns are one aspect among many, to secure schools as physically and mentally safe spaces. Long road. Very.

[OddBeMe]

Guns seem to be the main aspect.

[Sevenpointfive]

if my kid isn't strapped at school; what kind of father would i be?

[OddBeMe]

You should take society’s word and not procreate like me.

[Sevenpointfive]

if i could slap you i would. but thank god you heathens don't know if you're the father anymore.

[Juxtapose]

Guns have existed in America for hundreds of years without problems like this. Make mental asylums great again.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

I would love looking at these studies stating that sporting guns never created any problems. Now, yes, guns are not the only problem in the system of violence, but I would not remove them so easily from the equation

[OddBeMe]

Wait you think shootings were better back in the 1800s? The towns did have gun control ironically.

[Juxtapose]

The founding fathers literally let civilian merchant ships carry cannons, which was the top military equipment at the time. And then later, schools had gun clubs.

I don't give a shit about gun control it is unconstitutional.

[OddBeMe]

Constitution also didn’t put term limits on presidents or never outlawed slavery. Mistake to amend that?

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

It's okay I didn't really expect a productive discussion on this topic anyway, the needed bridges are impossible to construct in the first place lol

[Juxtapose]

I don't care about term limits, that is irrelevant. Also yes, slavery has been outlawed. You can thank a Republican president for that.

[OddBeMe]

@Maybe_Maybe_not if gun nuts won’t allow simple safety regs that woulda kept that AR 15 outta that 14 year olds Georgia hands

[msc545]

Oh sure, we'll make a mental hospitals as they are actually called great again. There's just this little problem of paying for the care. Are you going to pay for it? Because in general the right wing refuses to pay for it.

[Juxtapose]

@msc545 cut the military spending and excess bullshit, fix the country and then make proper asylums in my opinion.

[msc545]

oh sure

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose Well it’s the first thing you’ve said I’ve agreed with for awhile.

[Juxtapose]

Haha sweet 🎂

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

lol !

[OddBeMe]

that will cops tax money. And maybe…socialized medicine! Oooohhhh

[Juxtapose]

I'm not against socialized medicine if you can actually be implemented well. I went to Germany, it really sucks there. You should really be able to choose your doctor and you can't there if I recall correctly.

[Juxtapose]

*if it can be implemented well

[OddBeMe]

The “socialized” part would be finding from the govt. Medicare is actually the most successful govt agency with less fraud.

We should just delete above 65.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

On the topic of Germany, there is the drawback you describe, since you can be locked in with a not so good medic.

But there are also positives, it solves the problem of "medical deserts" , aka places where medicine is insufficiently distributed, inequalities of access to medicine

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

France has this issue, our policies about health access ensures equal access to medicine in spirit, but it can't stop rural areas to lack medics, sonce medics tend to favor cities...

[Walksbehindtherows]

Only in the USA

[OddBeMe]

True.