Who’s agrees with the Repubs?

[OddBeMe]

Trump should be in jall

Nah, everyone convict but him

[MisterWack]

Famous last words.
Trump also predicted in 2016, if Hillary Clinton is elected it would cause a constitutional crisis we’ve never seen before, maybe even seeing the first President to be charged, indicted, and face a criminal trial (based on the whole documents thing, which he did during his time in office by harboring classified documents).

Trump definitely only believes convicted criminals should be thrown in jail and says these beliefs only until he is caught red handed for his sh*t. The 34 counts of GUILTY for falsifying business records to trick the bank into giving Trump free money for a NDA filed falsely as a ‘legal expense’(which Michael Cohen spent time in jail previously for involvement in the crime). Trump is a convicted criminal and if he wants to be pro Law & Order he should submit & go to jail after November 26th.

[MisterWack]

“If she were to win this election, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. In that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and ultimately a criminal trial.”
-Donald J Trump (Nov 5th, 2016 Reno, Nevada)
9:10
https://youtu.be/yDmrom_TMaE?

Trump promising to, “In my administration I’m going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information.”
-Donald J Trump (Aug 16th, 2016 West Bend, Wisconsin
https://youtu.be/_Ej9nQNkits?

[1073sucks]

Real crimes like what biden, his son, Obama and nuland biotch did in Ukraine illegally overthrowing another country’s democratically elected government to install one of THeIR preference which resulted in civil war in that country in which many innocent people died and then proceeded to feed the fire as more people died and pushed Russia into what they were going for which bus why they did all this to begin with to portray Russia as the “evil unprovoked invader” which resulted in what’s STILL going on in Ukraine while they tax us down to make us pay for that stupid war they created and innocent people keep dying there. The only ones enriching themselves with this are them at the top while they make us poorer paying for their war there and then ukranians keep dying.

THAT! Is a REAL crime. Not some hush money.
democrats are disgusting for supporting that war to keep going because it’s not their children and family that are dying there.

[Juxtapose]

Abso-fucking-lutely

[1073sucks]

@Juxtapose :)

[OddBeMe]

What crimes of the Biden’s?

[1073sucks]

Almost All democratic supported and ignorant. They have no clue

[1073sucks]

Bleh autocorrect

[OddBeMe]

So no evidence?

[DrPepper12]

He's a global menace. Dumb as a bag of hammers. Fluffs himself.

Ignorant, incurious, thief, transactionsal, disloyal, sociopathic, bigoted, close-minded, violent, conspiracist, cheater, psychopathic, insurrectionist, misogynistic, treasonous, narcissistic pedo who wants to fuck his own daughter, America and the world.

[OlderAndWiser]

Can you please give a citation to a reliable report of Trump actually having made this statement?

[1073sucks]

I believe he may have said that but it should be applied for REAL crimes not the desperate hush money attempts with all the other pathetic convictions democrats so desperately needed to use to interfere with the election to prevent trump from running for president. They’re scared and desperate. It’s pathetic.

[Juxtapose]

@1073sucks ^^ this

[OddBeMe]

@1073sucks I love right wingers hating illegal migrants but Trump’s fraud is just BS.

[OlderAndWiser]

So. . . no citation?

[OddBeMe]

Did you think I photoshopped that fucking pic above?
www.nbcnews.com/.../trump-campaign-says-believes-anyone-convicted-crime-jailed-rcna169635

[Drewtate]

He was never convicted. Bill Clinton was so was hunter Biden.

[OddBeMe]

Was hunter Biden convicted?

[Drewtate]

Yes. He's to be sentenced in December facing 25 years. The question is, will Biden pardon him in his last days in office just like the infamous pardons of Bill Clinton which included Clinton buddies and even Bill's brother? And that is just the convictions so far.

[OddBeMe]

Then why don’t you value the court and jury that convicted Trump. Whats the diff?

[Drewtate]

A rigged trial. Supposedly guilty of being black mailed. Just look at the recent real estate case involving trump.

[OddBeMe]

Then Hunter’s was rigged and blackmailed!

[msc545]

Trump is a convicted criminal and he should be in jail or prison at this point and he's not. That is a very big problem because it completely undermines our system of justice.

[Anonymous]

Trump was not convicted he was declared guilty in a very transparently unlawful way.

[goaded]

No. Five grand juries of citizens have found he should stand trial for four different sets of crimes. In the one case he hasn't managed to delay with the assistance of judges and justices he appointed (which should be grounds enough for recusal for every one of them) he's had, that jury of citizens found him guilty on all counts.

The only corruption in the judicial system is in Trump's favour.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded Unfortunately the non-adversarial Grand Jury process is soo rigged it is easy enough to make a ham sandwich stand trial so that really doesn't mean anything at all.

[goaded]

You can't get indictments for trying to overthrow the results of the election without any evidence. And there are mountains of evidence in the documents case (where even the "judge" doesn't say it didn't happen, just that two centuries of precedent and dozens of court findings, up to the supreme court, were wrong.)

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded No in a country with free elections you can't legitimately be indicted for questioning them. That is what despots that have something to hide do, which means you probably don't have free elections anymore or they would be willing to make them verifiable and transparent to answer said questions.
Rather than simply try to jail and silence anyone who asks them.

[goaded]

Trump's not being "indicted for questioning" the election, he's been indicted for (among other things) attempting to defraud We the People using the play-book that Roger Stone had ready for him to use in 2016. https://archive.is/https://stopthesteal.org/

The time to dispute the election was before the December 14 Electoral College vote, and the place was in the courts. He tried 60 times, 1 time there was a moot point, the rest were thrown out and in many cases the lawyers were punished for bringing frivolous lawsuits.

You know all this, but you'll keep lying about it.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded It was made quite clear and obvious that there was an issue and unrealistic standard set by the politicians who "win" such elections is of course reliably un-meetable. As has been pointed out the new "election" systems involved in said states do not even collect the necessary data.

As designed that means to prove any fraud would require an extensive investigation talking to every voter looking at every vote taking years, not a mere month. Court's don't even consider the case until you have enough proof of indiviual cases to show it alters the election outcome.

Investigating 10s of thousands of fraudulent cases in such systems would take months if not years and require cooperation.

[goaded]

No, it was not "made quite clear and obvious", any more than me saying you're 3 foot tall and green skinned (which nobody on here can dispute).

It was a lie.

Trump has since admitted he lost "by a whisker" (7 million votes, iirc), and the whole "stop the steal" bullshit had already been set up by Roger Stone (who Trump pardoned for the crime of obstructing justice for Trump) for the 2016 election where he expected to lose, too. https://archive.is/https://stopthesteal.org/

States didn't stop "investigating" their elections after 2020, but they still didn't find any wrong-doing, just MORE votes for Biden.

[OddBeMe]

So was Hunter’s conviction not valid?

[Opinion Owner]

@oddbeme Hunter was informed of the nature of his crime as required by the 6th amendment by a very different jury. To this day we still don't know what Trump's crime was and therefore it is impossible to say whether or not he was innocent or guilty of a crime we know not what.

The book keeping offense is a point of view which amounts to a misdemeanor who's statue of limitations has already come and passed with no prosecutor thinking it real case.

The whole trial hinged upon it being somehow used to try and cover up anther crime for which trump was never charged much-less convicted and is to this day still entirely unknown.

Without knowing that 'crime' it is impossible to to build a case for or against the alleged book keeping being related. Which is why the New York court did not and just left it to the all democrat jury's imagination telling them it did not matter.

This is a violation of the 6th amendment for a good reason.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded Few states conducted a further investigation and with as little evidence as they retained they did find evidence such as was detailed in the Arizona election report. As I said the nature of the election system they setup does not collect the required information to detect fraud.

[goaded]

Arizona found no evidence of fraud. What they have done is indict 18 Republican operatives for election interference.

"Biden’s margin of victory in Maricopa County was 360 votes wider than the official canvass had been."
thehill.com/.../

en.wikipedia.org/.../Arizona_prosecution_of_fake_electors

[OddBeMe]

@goaded I love the hypocrisy. 2016: no rigging. Trump conviction was wrong but Hunter Biden’s was right. Such a fucking cult.

[Anonymous]

yeah he'll be in jail alongside the Clintons and the Bidens

[OddBeMe]

What did the Clinton or Biden’s do?