He did more than anyone else to make electric cars mainstream, plus he a big proponent of solar energy. He ought to be a hero to the left. Why all the hate?

He did more than anyone else to make electric cars mainstream, plus he a big proponent of solar energy. He ought to be a hero to the left. Why all the hate?

The left is very "hive minded". Elon may have brought us Tesla and may be a forward thinker in energy and whatnot. But that's where it ends with him and the left. Elon is also a free thinker and the left doesn't want ANYONE thinking for themselves.
the left hate anyone they can't handle
after all, the left are responsible for slavery and god forbid anyone leaves the plantation
Responsible for slavery? Can you elaborate?
@DrPepper12 the Democrat Party is historically the party of slavery, KKK and has ties to communism
@DrPepper12 don't you remember how they fought to keep slavery and the Republicans were founded as the anti-slavery party?
Got it. Supported slavery and are communists for being supportive of unions.
@DrPepper12 go ahead and tell me Joseph Stalin did not enslave people. I will wait.
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America is lost in the woods right now because of false information and right-wing propaganda, started by and/or for Donald Trump and MAGA, largely dispersed via social media. The false information and propaganda has half of our country believing that the state of affairs in a multitude of areas is in complete disarray, when in reality, they aren’t. I leave my house everyday trying to find the reality FoxNews is trying to convince me exists, yet I never find it🤷♂️
So at some point, I have to just accept and understand that these people are liars, lying for deception, lying out of an inability to decipher factuality of incoming information they encounter, or a combination of both. But in both cases, that liar wants their guy Trump to win, for whatever angle of his agenda they’ve fallen for, and will stop at nothing to see it happen.
Elon bought Twitter, and at a pivotal moment in our country’s history, chose to use it for bad. “A town square” for “open discourse”….. see, this is the problem. What the right wing is pushing in a lot of cases is absolute NONSENSE, based in nothing but ignorance or lack of empathy…. Elon is guilty of accepting that nonsense and allowing it to be deceptively packaged as simply a counter-opinion, equally worthy of consideration. Thats what you might’ve been able to do with Republicans of yesteryear, but now we’re dealing with MAGA lunatics.
I don’t have as much time to expound on this right now, plenty more to say, but the bottom line is the biggest enemy to the future of America right now is “fake news”…. not the stuff Trump and MAGA say is “fake news”, but the entire concept of “fake news” that we can’t believe the news we get about current events.
Yes, OBVIOUSLY you need to have some degree of media literacy, consider sources and motivations and biases, OF COURSE…. but historically, that just means the tenor of the piece you’re consuming, not that the facts and the event itself might just be completely made up out of whole cloth.
BUT, in the ultimate example of the psychological phenomenon of “projection”, now there IS stuff being completely made up out of whole cloth, coming from some folks on the right. Nobody is putting kitty litter boxes in elementary school bathrooms, guys, COME ON🤦♂️😂 Or at best, they take one or just few of small isolated incidents, and blow it up into a whole thing where it’s sweeping the nation and yOuR tOwN cOuLd Be NeXt👻 It’s fear porn, plain and simple.
Its bad enough FoxNews and now NewsMax have both decided pushing the REAL “fake news” that paints MAGA in a good light is profitable (until you get sued for your egregious lies to the tune of over a quarter-billion dollars…womp-womp-wahhhhhh, lmfao), but now it’s easily spread by known morons John and Jane Q Public via brainless memes easily consumed by stupid people via social media.
Most social media sites at least make an effort to fact-check or shut down blatantly false information (because that’s dangerous to society!), but Elon’s whole deal is like “wait…. let’s hear this “Jewish space lasers out of Italy stole the 2020 U. S. Presidential election” thing out…”
And I gotta scram, like I said, but anything done with that motivation, and these results, without saying “whoa, I messed up, let’s fix it”…. that is just🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Question about musk! And you rant about trump. Typical dumb democrat. Notice topic!
@strateguy632 I’m not a Democrat, bud. But Trump and MAGA are the most clear & present internal danger to America that I can see. If Elon was just sitting around inventing things, I’d have nothing to say. But MAGA has my country under attack right now, to the point where I worry about the nation’s future if they win…not even JUST Trump, but anyone out of the MAGA movement after Trump is gone. I would be ashamed of my country and my nationality if that were to happen, and I don’t want that to be the situation. So Elon has purposely affiliated himself in support of a movement that I believe to be terrible…. so why would that make me feel positive things about him? It’s got nothing to do with Trump or Elon or any other specific person. It’s just the entire general MAGA movement that I want to see stifled, because contrary to their declared slogan, they would make America WORSE, not “great.”
Yes and no.
Yes he bought Tesla but kicked out the two founders and inventors
He is also the typicall capitalist whos exploiting workers.
He is also funding anti-Trans-campaigns with half a billion Dollars every year, advocating for oppression of transpeople, just because one of his kids turned out trans and he can't deal with it.
He is also censoring twitter.
He also tried to demolish an antique Bridge in the Netherlands just because his small dick required a gigantic boat (which consumes more gas than all Tesla combined would save.)
In total he is just another rich mf exploiting millions and scamming his way to a mountain of gold.
Ummmm... Maybe It's the fact that he is a megalomaniac global menace? Maybe it's the fact that he can dictate terms to countries that could affect their very survival? Maybe it's the fact that he out of the blue decided to give Trump $750 MILLION dollars out of the goodness of his heart? Maybe it's the fact that he has spoke supportingly of slavery and apartheid? Maybe it's the fact that he is an illegal immigrant and committed crimes while being an illegal? Maybe it's the fact that he was charging $400 to Hurricane survivors in the Carolinas to hook up to his Starlink satellite service? Maybe it's the fact that he decided to purchase the preeminent worldwide instant media company because the algorithm wasn't promoting his tweets enough and brain dead morons excepted his word that he was doing it to further free speech when he did exactly the opposite?
I've got more if you're willing to listen!!
I'm not left (more moderate) but I don't like the fact that Tesla as a company would have never been possible without government subsidies on electric vehicles. Forcing poor people to pay for the auto purchases of rich people seems like the ultimate form of corruption.
That's a fair criticism, but Tesla is still a relatively new company, and rich people are almost always the early adapters.
The Model 3 and Model Y are both less than 40,000 dollars. That's not Honda Civic cheap, but it's an improvement over ten years ago.
If, a few decades from now, electric cars are an affordable reality for people who aren't well off, and Tesla is a part of that, do you think you might decide that the government subsidies were a good investment?
You can probably go on YouTube and find the video of his interview with Tucker Carlson. Elon says if Kamala wins, they will probably sue his company and put him in prison. This is because the left is now terrified of free speech. everything was fine when Twitter was around, because Twitter didn’t allow free speech. The only reason Elon bought Twitter was to preserve free speech.
But now that the communists have taken over the Democratic Party, free speech is now a threat.
How is his rigging the algorithm for whatever whims pop into this megalomaniacs head free speech?
@DrPepper12
If you so much as questioned the vaccine, Twitter would ban your account. Right?
Ban? Not that I'm aware of. They did curate accounts & posts with false or dangerous info though
They banned them.
Well yeah... That happens to people that are dangers to public health!! Should you have unfettered liberty to cause chaos and death?
@DrPepper12
And remember Ivermectin was only for horses, right?
His posts on X are antisemitic and often rival Trump for the vitriol and crazy right-wing conspiracy theories they support. Granted, most of Trump's posts on Truth Social (which I am convinced is a satirical name), however Musk still uses his new company.
He hates his trans daughter
He uses his X platform to specifically highlight far-right voices while the algorithm still flags any far-left extremism
He’s overall kind of a cunt
THIS! ⬆️⬆️⬆️ ALL OF THIS!!!
No problem with his work it's the childish spreading of blatant lies and misinformation that's the issue.
Ever since he supported trump they cancel him.
Lefties hate anyone that does not agree with them.
False
Why would we like him? He has only slowed down progress by trying to lead something he has no interest in or understanding of.
He seems to have a decent understanding of electric cars, at the very least.
The other car companies are all following his lead.
Tesla was started by other people. He was mostly involved in marketing. Also Tesla has done a fairy horrible job of using their early adoption advantage to the point where other companies has long since surpassed them. The legacy of Tesla was as an early innovator who tried to abuse their position as first for economic benefit rather than to continue innovating.
Things like patenting their charging technology and then spreading the chargers everywhere so that customers are locked down them them rather than competing technologies.
The decisions that Elon has done is not for the benefit of the customer but rather decisions that benefits his own corporations.
Elon Musk became Tesla's largest shareholder seven months after the company was founded, and about a year before their first model was available to the public. It's not like Tesla was a long-established company and Elon bought it so he could take credit for other people's work. And he's been CEO of Tesla since 2008, so no, he's not just a marketing guy.
I'm sorry that it offends you that a corporation would want to make money, but that aside, electric cars are a practical reality now, in large part due to Tesla and Musk. Doesn't he deserve a certain amount of credit for that?
First of all, electric cars was always coming. Conventional cars has reached a technological dead end, we simply can't get anymore efficiency out of the design. We were always going to have to make the switch, even if you dont consider the environmental argument.
As for Musks input in early Tesla, that was mostly high level decisions such as aesthetic design or material choices rather than the technical specifications and inventions that actually made Tesla good.
They were always coming, Elon Musk just happened to be standing around when they did come, and he took all the credit for it., just like he did with SpaceX and PayPal, two other hugely successful companies to which Musk contributed nothing substantive.
This is exactly what I was asking about. I can understand disagreeing with the guy politically, but why does every person on the left want to make Elon Musk out to be a learning-disabled shyster with absolutely no good qualities or accomplishments to his name?
Space X has not actually done anything important. Its mostly just rehashing what NASA already did. We do know what the next leap in rocket technology would be such as Aerospike engines or a number of other alternatives. Plenty of scientists has done the groundwork for these technologies and it would have been achieved today if NASA was still funded to continue development.
Instead we are stuck with SpaceX to do what NASA did but worse and they did not even do it alone, they did it with the assistance of NASA engineers and schematics. To say that SpaceX is a disappointment is putting it lightly.
Musk was also replaced as CEO of Paypal back when he renamed it X (because he has some kind of erotic fixation with that letter of the alphabet or something). Paypal took off after Musk was replaced.
Not saying Elon is not good at making investment decisions but I dont actually think he is a very good CEO. Twitter is a good example of what might be the worst business decisions in human history.
Sounds like he's the richest man in the world because of dumb luck.
Anyway, I asked a question because I wanted some insight into the left's hysterical, reality-denying hatred of this man, and you gave me an excellent example of that, so thank you.
Because he follows the right wing script of saying one thing and doing another. "Twitter needs to be completely free speech. But only if you pay or agree with my nationalist corporation views."
He bought Twiter and stopped the censorship the old owner supported.
1)? who was the old owners?
2) he implemented Elon style censorship
3) he destroyed the verification check leading to chaos
@DrPepper12 The old owner was a weirdo with a long beard. I forget his name. He was a real moonbat that was in the tank for Biden
They hate the idea that they can't control him. Nothing more.
Does he need controlling?
@DrPepper12 He does not. He's a grown man.
Lol. He's neither grown nor a man.
@DrPepper12 what is your problem with Elon Musk, outside of what the TV told you to dislike? Lol. You midwits are so predictable.
He's a global megalomaniac racist conspiracist with control of global communications, space travel, governments in his pocket, no regard for the environment and he committed crimes here while being an illegal immigrant and should have been deported.
@DrPepper12 Yup, as I said. You shitlibs can’t control him so now you have to pretend to hate him. It gets under your skin you can’t censor or cancel him.
As you like it...
He is just another ich ass who supports Trump
Because he’s not gay or something
"Orange man bad. Elon like orange man, Elon bad."
It's MUCH deeper than that bruh
I'm not familiar with Oprah. Whats she up to?
Trump.
Derangement.
Syndrome.
Propaganda
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