If Kamala Wins, Will The Country Become More Like Detroit?

[Ladsin2]

President Trump and Lizzo both stated that if Kamala becomes president the country will become more like Detroit. Do you agree or disagree, and is that a good or bad thing?

I agree, and it's a good thing

I agree, and it's a bad thing

I disagree, and it's a good thing

I disagree, and it's a bad thing

Other

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*good thing to become more like detroit.
*Bad thing to become more like detroit.

[NaultD]

The executive branch by our constitution check and balance isn't that powerful. It's massively influential but our congress at whole is the driving force.

In the same way don packed the supreme court with mitch mcconnell deliberately subverting obama ability to pick his supreme court picks. From there they over turn roe vs wade and forced return old laws but any state who had a referendum by vote chooses to have abortion rights.

It's 10 steps back but ultimately our congress and voters claws back to normal in 5 to 10 years from said setbacks.

[Ladsin2]

I'm not entirely sure that answers the question. Care to explicate on this particular question? I'm quite well aware of the purview of the different branches of our government.

[NaultD]

The executive branch both don or kamala can't unilaterally control our country to the point of brink. With Detroit being an example of the brink.

Let's look at an ultra conservative Christian who is a single issue voter about abortion. They voted for the don to completely remove abortion. Don by picking conservative Supreme judges took the first step in doing that but what happened afterwards? States who could vote on the issue wanted abortion rights. While other states are left to the wind waiting to vote and being harmed by it.

This is what I mean the executive branch is influential but not directly in control. On one hand it can't be the end of the world one way or another with don or kamala but that's no excuse to be complacent with our peers left on undecided ground.

[Ladsin2]

So in response to this question I'm understanding that you think the country moving towards the direction of Detroit would be a negative direction. Cool, got it. Now, do you think Kamala will make the country more or less like Detroit? I understand that it won't solely be due to her influence, but as a result of her election which would be more likely?

[NaultD]

Can I say it's a non sequitur? With the fact that their is 50 state plus territory. that a single city description is not and will never be a meaningful representative way to look at any president and their influence across a country.

[Ladsin2]

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Lol, of course you can say it's a non-sequitor, it's America you can say whatever you want. I just found it strange that both the Harris and Trump campaigns both said the country will become more like Detroit under a Harris presidency. You can obviously say that both are wrong. They both say that they'll do away with taxes on tips. I find that to be a dubious claim myself.

[exitseven]

I disagree. It will be more like Venezuela

[Ladsin2]

Is Venezuela better or worse than Detroit?

[exitseven]

It is worse. At least detroit is not communist.

[Ladsin2]

Ask the politicians there!

[saraupstairs]

If she wins she'll turn it into the new San Francisco

[saraupstairs]

Thank you for the MHO

[Anonymous]

I'm from Michigan. My mom and aunt run a prayer truck in Detroit praying for people. They told me it's really bad there.

[Anonymous]

If kamala wins, I won't fear for my life anymore, like if trump was in charge.

I'm a white, liberal, JEW

[Ladsin2]

Interesting. How long have you feared for your life?

[Opinion Owner]

All my life, essentially. As a jew. Im a minority. Trump only exacerbates it

[SolitarySolace]

You do know the democrats are pro Palestine, right? They attacked Jewish students on university campuses

[Opinion Owner]

@SolitarySolace I'm also pro palestine. I can be jewish and still not like what a certain country is doing. Yes, I'm not a "pro hamas" fan, but, I'm not a fan of what israel is doing either.

Do you know that most of the people of Russia, and israel, don't want their leaders doing what they're doing to Ukraine, and Palestine, respectively. Republicans, don't understand this, because well, they're domestic terrorists, themselves

[Ladsin2]

"All my life, essentially" So how is Kamala going to change that? You're not a young man. You were afraid long before Trump and Kamala were competing...

[Opinion Owner]

Isn't that my point. Trump only exacerbated it. Kamala at least makes me feel somewhat safe

My point is. As a minority, I fear for my life

[Ladsin2]

How is she going to change it? I understand that you say she will, but the question is how, or why?

[Opinion Owner]

I mean, it's not like she can "change" a minority into a majority, right?

Don't republicans think this is a "christian" nation, after all

[Ladsin2]

Are you implying that you'll only feel safe in a community in which you're a member of the majority population?

[Opinion Owner]

I'm saying that, why should a majority religion, control a country. That's not what this country was built on. It was built on freedom of religion, and FROM religion.

[Ladsin2]

I feel that you're getting way off topic from what I'm trying to ascertain. Perhaps I wasn't very clear. You said you've always been afraid, but that you wouldn't be afraid if Kamala wins. My question is why you would feel less fear if she wins? Is she going to do something in particular to make you less fearful?

[Opinion Owner]

Again, I'll always be a minority, and fear for my life. As long as republicans continue to want to make this a "christian" nation

[Opinion Owner]

And i told you, this country, is built on freedom OF religion, and freedom FROM religion

Why don't republicans fucking understand that

[Ladsin2]

Ok, so you fear for your life because you're in a religious minority. Doesn't explain how Kamala will make it better, but whatever. Got it. Would you fear for your life if you were in Israel? There you would be in both the ethnic and religious majority.

[Opinion Owner]

But, at the same time, it's a war torn county. I literally do not want to go right now, because of what they're doing.

[Opinion Owner]

country*

[Opinion Owner]

I've already told you over and over, until republicans get that this ocunty is NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION, and that it was born on freedom OF religion and FROM religion...

[Opinion Owner]

country**

[Ladsin2]

Who's they? The Jews? So even if you go to a country where you're both in the ethnic and religious majority you'd still be scared? Are you noticing a pattern here?

[Opinion Owner]

Why wouldn't i be scared of a war torn country, right now?

Are you seeing a pattern here. Jews, are always being attacked

[Ladsin2]

The Jews aren't safe in their homeland, but you're not happy with them defending themselves. You're afraid in one of the safest countries on the planet, because you happen to say you're a different religion (dubious, probably a fair-weather Jew). You don't want to live in a country where you're in the majority because of the constant bombings, rapes, and slaughters by neighbors... Is there anywhere you'd be happy? And, back to the topic at hand, how will Kamala make it better?

[Opinion Owner]

I will be happy, when we aren't scapegoated

[Ladsin2]

If you aren't scapegoated, but still attacked in wildly outsized numbers in NY will you feel comfortable?

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah, why shouldn't i

But at least it's not because of scapegoating, then it'll just be because they hate me for being me, not because im a jew

But, why would you hate me for me. I like to think im a pretty cool guy, regardless of being a jew or not. you on the other hand, nope

[Ladsin2]

Lol, well thanks for the conversation bud.

[Opinion Owner]

No prob. hope i informed you on things, and that you stop voting for the party that literally doesn't care about you

[RowdyYates]

Yes, and not in the good way.