Does everyone think theyre not an immigrant?

[OddBeMe]

Just had a strange convo with a Latino white nationalist... lol

[Anonymous]

Don't care.

This country was founded by white Europeans and our government is livid they will forever owe everything this country is to European colonizers. No matter how much you try to wipe history that's the facts.

This land was conquered against a bunch of unorganized, disjointed, ill-equipped, tribes who has been waging wars for their entire lives. The natives in the USA were and still are sore losers, entitled to nothing but given things after the full and complete conquest of the West when we took pity on said tribes out of Christian duty.

[DrPepper12]

a lot do. It's kinda weird. Especially these 3rd n 4th generation bigots.

[saraupstairs]

The Indians weren’t the first. But this is a dumb argument, because the past has no relevance on the present.

[OddBeMe]

Funny because its all about who got here first... and not allowing others the same. Like your ancestors

[saraupstairs]

What about your ancestors? Are you leaving or just full of shit?

[OddBeMe]

Dont know. I imagine part of the irish migration around the industrial revolution. We didn't require a fraction back then for the immigration process.

[Gwendoline]

Your not an immigrant if you are 2nd generation born there. I'm an immigrant to the US, my child isn't.

[OddBeMe]

Wow. Where did that rule come from?

[msc545]

Everyone who is not Native American is an illegal immigrant as are their ancestors.

[Gwendoline]

Didn't native migrants migrate all the time? Didn't they immigrant in successive waves across the bearing strait 10,000 years ago?

[OddBeMe]

@Gwendoline true, so why's it matter? Shouldn't anyone have a right to migrate?

[Dargil]

Every Native-Indian derives from immigrants, just like I do but millennia back. They all crossed the Bering Land Bridge. People have conquered and supplanted weaker people for millennia. Do have a relevant point?

[Anonymous]

Is there anyone to the right of Stalin that you don't regard as a white nationalist?

by the way Latino simply means you got ancestors who spoke a Latin language, it has nothing to do with your biology.

[Gwendoline]

Does that make French Canadians Latinos too? Just curious

[Opinion Owner]

@Gwendoline yes technically. Althou most Americans think of what the Spanish call "mestizos" as Latino or Hispanic which really is Spanish heritage specifically.

[noohair]

Everyone is am immigrant. But it is a natural progression, as you said before. But favoring illegal aliens over citizens is the problem that is causing the strife. The history of the world is a history of migration and war. It is what it is.

[Berethor]

Whites tend to be high quality migrants, so it don't really matter if whites are migrants.

[Redstang88]

I’m not, I was born here and so was the rest of my family for generations.

[OddBeMe]

How many gens back were they immigrants? Or are they native americans?

[Redstang88]

Enough
How far back do you wanna go? The natives haven’t been here forever either, they came from Asia. Basically every culture and ethnicity outside of Africa came from somewhere else at some point

[OddBeMe]

Not sure. you're the fck putting stupid goal posts and then moving them when logic hits

[Redstang88]

Just taking notes from you

[OddBeMe]

So being born here doesn't matter much does it?

[Ladsin2]

There are people who are native to the US. There are people who immigrate here. There are no peoples that are native to the Americas. Hence why they're Injuns.

[exitseven]

I was born in America so by definition I am a native born citizen.

[Anonymous]

I would be a white nationalist but I couldn't resist race mixing with an Asian woman.

[CaptainSmartass]

I'm not an immigrant.

Simples...

[Agape93]

Im not. My parents aren't. My grandparents are.

[OddBeMe]

Lucky grandparents. Unlucky migrants at the border, I guess, right?

[Agape93]

Correct and not my concern, unless you're talking about Canadians.

[OddBeMe]

Very sociopathic of you. What if Americans thought that of your grandpa? Also why Canadians?

[Agape93]

Because the closest immigrants crossing over to me, are Canadians.
Yes I am confirmed to have sociopathic tendencies, thanks for finally noticing lol
And they did, both of em. German and a norwegian, both from nazi territory, in the late 30s or early 40s. Again, not my problem, and I'm not one to care about family

[OddBeMe]

Are you wanting me to feel sorry for your ancestors? Try imagining your ancestors running from nazis and being stopped at the southern border.

[Agape93]

Nope, your sympathy doesn't mean a thing to me. And as I said, I'm not one to care about family.

[OddBeMe]

Not caring about starving people down south is cold. But coo coo

[Agape93]

And? People starve all over. I starved as a child off an on, my girlfriend starved as she grew up, my boyfriend starved when he was military. People starved in Kuwait, Germany, Russia, Japan, Mongolia, and every other nation and city on earth. If I had a bleeding heart for every starving person I wouldn't be able to function. My focus and my care is limited to people I love and care for. I don't give a fuck if they starved down south. I don't care if they starve in middle east. I don't care if you starve. None are my concern. Call it cold, I don't frankly care how you see it

[Sevenpointfive]

we talk almost every single day?

[Juxtapose]

I am not an immigrant lol.

[OddBeMe]

Your ancestors were. And now all of us suffer

[Juxtapose]

So what? I am not an immigrant, I am an American.

[Juxtapose]

All of humanity went from Africa to different countries as far as historians know and land has changed hands many times throughout history.

[OddBeMe]

So your grandparents were lucky. The people starving at the southern border are unlucky. Thats the real issue, right?

[Juxtapose]

No, my great-grandparents were conscientious and came in legally.

I don't care about people's sob stories, not my problem. They either come in legally or they should get shot trying to come in illegally. Same deal with my home. You can either come in with my permission or you will leave in a bag.

[Juxtapose]

People are rational, self-interested and have a capacity for self-reliance. Stop infantilizing people.

[OddBeMe]

Your ancestors did nothing more those poor souls at the southern border are doing. They were just luckier there wasn't a racist system against them.

And they weren't the only ones. We turned away thousands of jews during the holocaust. Before that we had anti Chinese immigrant laws.

[Juxtapose]

My ancestors obeyed the law and didn't come here expecting a handout. You thinking the system is racist just shows that you yourself are racist because you view everything through the lens of race. Illegal immigration being a problem has absolutely nothing to do with race.

And we put Japanese people in internment camps in the past. I don't see how that is relevant today.

[OddBeMe]

So naive. Trump people don't even have to work hard with you

[Juxtapose]

What a pathetic response.

[OddBeMe]

How do you know your ancestors obeyed the laws?

[Juxtapose]

Because I literally talked to my great grandmother and descendants of my other ancestors about what they did. Absolutely none of them came in illegally.

[OddBeMe]

Ask them what they had to do to immigrate and then look up current reqs for migrants

[Juxtapose]

I really don't care lol. Immigration is a privilege, not a right. Requirements can be as arbitrary as a country likes.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Another dumb liberal argument.

[msc545]

A liberal argument that you can't refute...

[seeyounexttuesday]

@msc545 When you clowns learn the difference between “legal” and “illegal” then come try to argue something. Otherwise sit down.

[msc545]

you sound butthurt.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@msc545 And you sound like a moron.