
How is “being a man” different today than it was on previous decades?


I've tried to somewhat emulate the old gentlemen behavior in my obviously modern life and I will tell you where I've had my issues/shortcomings.
The apps, the phones, all the shit they are effects you with dopamine and your satisfaction levels and gamification of our modern life will work against you if you are not self aware.
I've tried to control everything in my life which is good but it leads to wanting control over every aspect of your life, which isn't possible. Letting go is literally the thing I struggle with most over any topic.
Lastly, emotions will boil over, so have a healthy place to let them out. I box and it was only recently I was finally hit with some really old emotions I've recently confronted and fucking hell, to think years of hardship and trial bottled in will comeback. It might take years as at 18 I could go through anything but nobody's invincible at anything. Boxing is my outlet and it's a healthy outlet where I try to make myself better, men without such an outlet can become harmful to those around them over time.
A lot of “men “ today seem soft, more feminized. I don’t mean soft as in physically speaking or being a jerk. Too many of them are worried about their looks. Don’t know how to change tires, do basics mechanic work on cars as well as a lot of other things. They don’t have manners. Being a man isn’t about being tough, being an asshole. It’s about doing the things you know you need to do to better yourself as well as your family. Even if you don’t want to. Being a man means taking care of your family. Upholding your family’s name. Being respectful. When I was a kid my dad always made sure my mom was taken care of, even if he was dead tired. He always tried to shield her from all things bad, to never put his burdens on her even if he had a stressful day. They are still together after 35 years. There’s a lot more to it, but to me these are just the basics.
I'm EXTREMELY handsome. OF COURSE I'm concerned about my looks, even at 71 !!!
Almost nobody can do "basic mechanic work on cars". Why should they? Modern cars require very little maintenance, and if something does go wrong, you can't fix it without a lift. Sure, it's possible to do your own brakes. I have because I had a track car. Otherwise why bother? You'll need a mess of tools for a job that only has to be done every three or four years.
@slatyb yeah and a lot of men have concluded that their time can be better spent (that is making more money) on other endeavors then they just pay someone else less to do the job.
With all that said there is something masculine about doing hard physical labor. I’m glad I had some hard labor summer jobs as a kid (landscaping, construction) even though I am definitely more of the academic type.
It's the same really. You have the masses telling boys who they should be and if they don't get in line they say they're not a real man. In other words your inferior. It's just mind control. It's the same as the past. You have women and men trying to control boys through manipulation. And you have men and women trying to control girls through the manipulation by calling this masculine if they act in a way you don't like. It's selfish. We force people to live how we want to live. A man is someone who has a penis. A woman is someone who has a vagina. It's that simple. A man is not masculinity and a female is not femininity. But ofc we will continue to keep passing on bad beliefs to the next generation. That's why change is so slow. We don't even know how to rewire ourselves. But we know what's on mars.
Love the image you chose for your post.
Different from how long ago?
In general, men have it better. Because
1- They know which children are theirs, courtesy of religion and paternity tests (in most cases at least).
2- They don't have to share their women with other men, courtesy of religion and sexual shaming.
3- They had 2 jobs, make babies and pay to raise them. Both of which they are receiving lots of help with.
4- Many of them are not forced into extreme physical labor or life threatning situations anymore.
5-They are free to go wherever they want whenever they want, as long as they have some type of career.
6- They are easily united for any cause that serves them well.
Seriously , you list just proves most women have to idea what it's like bieng man. Paternity fraud is still rampant and getting a paternity test without the mother's consent is illegal in a lot on nations and states in the US.
Don't have to share women, maybe thier not forced but cheating is far more rampant in women than men.
pay to raise children... do you have any idea how expensive children are and unlike women men don't get assistance paying for them
Not forced into hard labor or life threatening situations? Lady who do you think paved your roads, laid your pipes, ran your wires, built your house, sucked the gas your car runs on from the cold dead earth. Harvested all the raw materials those things are made of, and grew your food. Also when you call the police odds are it's a man coming to put his life between you and the criminal threatening you.
Are free to go wherever they want? I wasn't aware we were chaining up women and not allowing them to travel anywhere.
And 6 is just blatantly false. Men do far more uniting for causes that improve women's lives than they ever do for anything that improves thier own lives.
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Difficult with all the hatred, stupidity, and toxicity in circles relating to men.
I don’t mean from just men, I feel that women give bad sigma to men because of the awful pieces of sh*t in ‘masculine circles’.
I want us to be polite, orderly, open minded, and looking at both sides of the table & being warm and welcoming also inviting rather than aggressive, angry, narrow minded, wishful thinking, biased skewed individuals to not only men, but women too. We should strive to let our better angels prevail not our most destructive & absurd impulses with lack of critical thinking and lack of substance. Makes men look bad.
*Note: Majority of men aren’t like this, it is a loud minority. If you give every 3rd grader a megaphone, that doesn’t make them more knowledgable than the teachers know what I mean?
The best kept secret of our time is: being a man hasn’t changed a bit
Except we used to raise boys to be men
Warn them that life is tough and they need to be tougher to make it
Now we pamper them and tell them it’s ok to whine and complain and play the victim
It’s one thing to not bottle up negative emotions and that is great
But it’s another thing to use that as an opportunity for complacency
So being a man is no different. But building men has changed
You tell WHITE men they're victims when they clearly aren't.
I'm going to make this simple... being a man has been placed as not a good thing where it was a good thing in the past. Now we're considered fucking tools. Just a tool.

I just posted a picture that perfectly describes what women think we think. While they fuck around with "players and fuck boys" and then blame men for them even though they created those guys and give them exactly what they want.
At one point in time I considered a relationship and being serious and dedicated... I got dick slapped with reality. Women want drama... they fuck me more when I'm a asshole and choke them and spit in their mouth. Is what it is.
No work
No taxes
All the pussy I can eat
Drizzle drizzle bitches... I'm your new dream fuck and shit.
@lin123_ yeah listen to him, and send him pictures. While I'll continue to learn from you.
So you say in your opinion that physical strength is less important nowadays than in the past. But that's your logic and not what the body instinctually thinks.
Up until synthetic steroids were invented, testosterone depended on testicular health, and testicular health means coom production.
Through entire human existence women have been looking for signs of high testosterone such as tallness, leanness and strength, and that made them wet. I guarantee you that because my dic pics get you wet. It's the evolution. You might dislike looking at them but you're unpleasantly addicted, because all animals and bitches are deeply programmed to propagate the species.
I hope this helps. Xoxo
@Hawt14Gurlz so black as she said it referred to something other than skins? Anyways who needs pills when it's so obvious.
Bright light stimulates your eyes to blink.
Scents stimulate you to take whiffs. Maybe salivate if it's a tasty scent.
Wobbling floor makes your muscles rigid to stabilize.
Why eould healthy reproductive systems of the opposite gender nearby have no effect on your reproductive system? It absolutely does, that's why whores were willing to cheat on their husbands with me even when I was very broke and hobo-like.
As gross and disgusting as it is, breeding is animalistic, and I don't even need to use these overlyfucked terms like "hypergamy" to get my point across.
@ChronicTDS You're right. It's animalistic and I think the infuriating part is that one gender for the most part will ignore that and half (at least half if not 2/3rds) of our own gender ignores it as well.
Then the female gender displays it through action, by fucking the players and fuck boys, get pissed off that they won't settle for their mid asses... and then want to bitch at men in general when most of them were playing video games while all this was going on and have nothing at all to do with this bullshit.
I'm becoming an advocate for the Incels by choice. I don't blame them for just not wanting to bother with all this bullshit and go have fun doing other non-sexual things. Don't get me wrong, if a dude tells me he really wants pussy, I'm still going to direct him to the gym... hit the weights, you'll get the pussies. But on a deeper level once he gets the pussies and realizes they're not fit for anything other than fucking... welcome to the club bro. They just want free meals and entertainment? I hear you bro... and I'll give my theories about why that is.
Relationship minded people are rare... but I think it's way more rare on the female side of things. To be blunt... they think they have so many options that they don't care. Then bitch when they find out most of their options laid out before them are super chads that think she's not worth talking to after they hit it.
@ChronicTDS I should be clear here...
Black pilled = Looks matter and you're born with it or not and should just accept it if you were not born with enough looks to pull a Stacy like the Chads.
Red pilled = You a dude bro... not getting bitches then well you can... just hit the weights. Get buff. Make more money... you will.
I'm going to stop here because both philosophies sort of revolve around the same ideas about women's behavior. The both think women are pretty much pieces of shit with how they think and what they do and how they'll fuck you over. Therefore I will sort of classify them and a category.
Moving on to purple pill: These are men that think women are a needed part of society and valuable like a blue pilled man, but they're no simps. In fact the Muslim community is a huge part of this community. Not beating your wife into submission is not doing your work to keep women in their place. Burqa for instance... the head scarf at the least. Got to keep those bitches in place. I sort of respect their game. Stoning them to death for cheating. You get the picture.
Blue pilled: They pay for only fans and jerk of to any girl that will even talk to them. They're straight up simps. Women can't do anything wrong in their minds. Enough said about them.
I would also add that purple pill is a mix of red and blue. It's why Hillary Clinton wore a purple tie in her pants suit when Trump won to show unification. That's what happens when you beat a woman.
@Hawt14Gurlz Yeah well lets see if Kamala wears purple this time around. News just came out that she kills baby animals. If you know psychology like I do... she's a fucking psycho. Not only would she put Joe down in a coup... she will kill our young people with no worries. Hakuna matata... in her fucking brain. No worries. She won't care.
@Hawt14Gurlz oh shit, never noticed it. The only purple thing I knew about Hillary Clinton was her corncob that I smelled on a jew-burning nightstand.
@ChronicTDS 😂 🤣
@lin123_ Look lin123, you can go now. Nobody here wants to be introduced to your onlyfans page for just $3.99/month to see your chocolate starfish and sexual acts in picture form. We all have the internet and porn is free for us. Be logical... we're not your average blue pilled internet wankers.
@lin123_ I would like you to meet a friend of mine @Billlewis
You two should talk and I think your his type lin 😉
Dis gunna be gud.
The difference is the social role and it's norm. Men back in the day what a man was defined by social norms and roles, these days what a man is, is open for debate. There's no longer a norm that's socially acceptable but a question different groups have different answers to.
men were expected to be the primary breadwinners, taking care of their families and leading the household. But, fast forward to the women's liberation movement of the 1970s, and everything changed!
We, as women, began breaking glass ceilings and rocking the business world. By 2009, we'd made tremendous progress, and today, we're crushing it in the workplace, often earning more than our male counterparts.
As an Italian girl from Brooklyn, NY, I've seen this traditional mindset persist in my community - men are still expected to be the main providers. But here's the thing: many American women still hold onto this expectation.
Let's be real, ladies. We don't typically date down, and we often seek partners who match or exceed our financial stability. So, my question is: why do we still wonder why men feel pressured to be the primary breadwinners?
It's time to acknowledge our own empowerment and the shifting dynamics in relationships. What are your thoughts, ?"
it has changed as in you're still expected to provide as per tradition but your traditional reward for that has been taken away. like women still expect men to pay on dates, be proposed to, have the man priovide for the family through work while she's rising the childen. but women decided to take the incentive away that motivated men to actually do this. which is being a submissive and nurturing wife. instead women decided it's a great idea to not have children and instead act as if being a CEO is a highly desirable career for everyone which is most definitely neither the case for men nor for women. well we're paying the cost of that nonsense through shrinking population and burth rates. it is what it is.
Men are expected to have more emotional intelligence and provide more mental support today, if they want to be succesful in dating/finding a ltr. Being able to fix and build things is less important than in the past. There is less need for physical strength.
Lots of women also have ridiculously high expectations for men today, which is unfair.
we have no idea how to skin a cat. apparently, there were many ways to do that.
I can't fathom that...
we do a lot more typing...
I also cannot imagine standing in a line of men with muskets and taking shots at the other side.
I find this fascinating to be a man today, because I have started juggling the different representations possible for masculinity since a long time already. Fortunately, I always received validation for juggling, sometimes even in a direct manner. I can feel sorry for some men, only some, lost in the maze that is masculinity though. Rigidity may hurt.
From my POV, not different that prior decades. A 'gentleman' with any skills, education, training, sense of responsibility will still succeed in whatever he tries, and that applies to his social skills with women and dating/marriage/child rearing etc.
What "being a man" has always meant was being a male who is able to attract women.
It tends to change depending on who you ask. Some say you have to have dark triad traits, some say you have to put women on a pedestal.
I personally think a "man" has to be disagreeable, which is what a the asshole boyfriend types have but it is not an inherently negative trait. It's having your own goals and beliefs and sticking to them, not letting others push you around, and having the confidence to be really good at what you do.
War has changed, power structures have changed, the economy has changed, gender dynamics have changed... I don't know, perhaps almost everything about being a man is different than it was in the past.
I think society has gotten a lot worse recently about the constant undercutting and emasculation of men.
It's really difficult to raise boys who are secure in their masculinity if you have a society that's constantly letting them know they're a laughing stock and piece of shit for trying to become men.
I think schools put down boys like crazy. It was bad enough when I was growing up, I imagine it’s worse now. The education system wants boys/young men to basically pee sitting down (in a manner of speaking)
It's not appreciated as much anymore. Before when the only high paying jobs were working in such harsh industries like mining, farming, power plants, sewers or etc. which is why only few women work before and we're happier supporting their men but now, jobs are getting easier and with more and more options and technology, men's capabilities are getting more obsolete and anyone just being manly have a high chance of getting demonized.
And the inflation just made it worse. Right now even working in those fields I mentioned can't really get you a house.
Because of romance entertainment giving unrealistic expectations, "being a man" to entitled women, is majorly different than a males version. Being a man used to just be having confidence, having your own home, living income, a decent job, a vehicle, and good morals... nowadays everyone is struggling just to keep an apartment and their vehicle, be guys are still expected to pay for everything and have an income of 3 working people... that just isn't feasible in today's failing usa economy.
If you're a white man, you don't automatically have a position at the top of the pecking order. If you're a black man such as I, you fight all manner of backwash, from traditional racists who hate just my being, from too many white women who are still afraid of or hateful towards us, and from fugly, b***hy black women who think themselves superior to even us handsome Bradys.
It’s pretty much damned if you do damned if you don’t nowadays.
But everything is just one giant sh*t test. Women say they “want this” but they really want something else and it’s supposedly on men to figure it out.
This is a hard question because I don't know how it was in different decades
And I don't look at myself as being a man or trying to be a man I look at myself just being me and doing the things that I do and being responsible about it
we don't got anymore george washingtons or james deans of the world lol
In the US, fewer jobs and lower pay for semi-skilled labor due to the decline of manufacturing. This is driving non-college white men to Trump, although he will do nothing for them. He works for the billionaires and makes fun of the working class.
@Goahead76 If you look at the legislative record, the Republicans have blocked most measures proposed by Democrats to help the working class. lnstead they have cut taxes for the wealthy and are trying to reduce Social Security and Medicare benefits which are hugely important to older workers.
Actually I think you're right about all of that, although I think dramatic steps needs to taken similar to what was done after WW2. The uniparty spends a trillion more than it brings in every year. Indtead we need radical steps taken to encourage marriage and family formation, laws overhauled to incentivize it. Make college inexpensive or free and home buying much easier. These should be the top issues for the empire, not overthrowing Ukraine or Georgia or Moldova or wherever.
@Goahead76 To encourage marriage and family formation -- no developed country has had much success with incentives to increase the birth rate.
Make college inexpensive or free -- it was much less expensive forty or fifty years ago. A student could cover tuition by working the summer.
Make home buying much easier -- the problem is that are few homes to buy. In Seattle it costs over $300K per unit to build apartments. Few can afford to rent or buy.
@Goahead76 And what do you suggest? The Republicans are already trying to enslave pregnant women. The next step is what? The Handmaid's Tale made real?
The uniparty? Not sure if you are lumping both parties in. Over the past 40 years the deficit has been made worse by every Republican administration due to irresponsible tax cuts.
@slatyb No, don't be silly, that propaganda rolls out every election season like comedy clockwork. The parties squabble over nonsense but are always all about spending money. I suggest the same thing I've been saying for years on here. Save up all the money you can and become an expat. Look up a guy on YouTube called Nomad Capitalist.
I guess the only survival is being a man in previous decades.
Being a man is like making and walking your path and beliefs to create something for me.
It’s not, and that’s part of the issue. The ideal for masculinity is based off of previous generations long past, not what it can be in the future.
AMen are no longer romantic, they are feminized, they wear make-up, they go on trips, they don't give flowers as gifts, they are even hesitant to pay a simple bill.
Then let me ask you are you a modern or a traditional woman? You can't be both though
@Aiko_E_Lara I am both, of course I am an educated girl, I am someone who supports women working when I get married and of course my husband must be a man, not a man, I don't need a man, I need a man, he must be a strong and romantic man.
And if you don't need a man then you don't need a husband. It's already a red flag if you can't really make up your mind. You saying you don't need men sounds pretty modern honestly.
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They always had 1 penis and 2 testicles. What's different today about that? Besides some of them look like women.
I feel like men actually wanted to be men then. Now they want to take on a feminine role.
Males are spending much more time in the adolescent phase than before.
Actually expressing feelings freely, sharing domestic chores & kid stuff, two income households and our colognes are SO MUCH BETTER!! Old Spice? Nah! 👎🏻
It's said that 85% percent of men are no longer interested in dating much less them getting married. Many men look at women in harrow verses a few years ago and they stay away from women altogether.
Well bieng a man has always ment taking on all of societies hardships with no help from anyone
But at least in the past you got an occasional thank you, as opposed to today where you just get called toxic and are hated and despised.
Omg, poor guys these days, well I think Lol
It's subjective. Men had to manage themselves and their households back then. These days most struggle to manage themselves.
Men today are either demonized/antagonized unless he is on his knees for a woman and all of her needs and wants and desires.
My boyfriend says that women are weaker than men and any man who shows his strength by hurting a woman is not a real man. Surprisingly many guys here do that and I block them 😃
"real man" is a manipulative phrase used to control young men.
@shoeboxcerealcard Yes. This phrase is manipulative. 100% Agree!
We've got a bullseye on our collective backs now.
Modren men tend to be less masculine than traditional man, and it pretty much a shame.
I don’t have to hunt, shoot and slaughter my food anymore. 🤔👍
The difference - I feel more mature now :D
And meanwhile I don't give a shit for what it's like to be a ''man'' - heh heh
Being a man is the same. How the average man behaves is much more wimpy than it was in our fathers' and grandfathers' days.
I would generally agree with you on this. Though I don’t think it was arrogance. They worked harder, were physically stronger, better social skills, their presence would have projected confidence and strength that is simply not as common in today’s society.
In those days masculinity was celebrated, now days these woke people think it’s bad “toxic” It’s making a generation of men that are unattractive to women.
It’s getting harder and harder. Girls take less shit. It’s not necessarily a bad thing. We’re learning more and more tough guys are snowflakes and hurt little boys on the inside
Hiding in turtle shells keeps us safe :P lol turtle 🐢 so to speak lol
The definition of a man has not changed, the expectations have changed, and that change is not for the better.
A man's role has not changed really except as it pertains to women.
This in my opinion is a big reason why we have so much friction in the dating world.
men can't support women anymore if they can barely afford to support themselves with all these crazy prices nowadays
Less testosterone they say. I'd hate to see me then, with a full great-grandad level.
It involves being emotionally available for your family now
The Feminists have conspired to steal our man cards
Because today being a man is somehow toxic.
Nowdays men want princess treatment
Then tell me are you a modern or a traditional woman?
Combination of both.
I'm independent. I love my career coz it's my passion. I don't do work to make money , I do work because it's pretty much half of my life, it makes me energetic, positive. It is a part of my identity. It provides direction and purpose to my life. But also I can do cleaning , cooking and other household stuffs. I believe in god. I love being feminine. I believe in traditional values too. I date to marry. Not interested in these hookup/casual sex type of shitty things that's why I never dated someone. I believe in permanent relationships not temporary ones. I want a family.
I have my own interests, goals, and freedoms. I can't sacrifice these things. But these things can be adjusted if u have the right partner by your side.
Hope u get my point 💕
Well you see, what do you claimed there don't sound like women these days. Or are you just making those claims because I'm about to generalize women as being those modern "strong independent women" but also looking for traditional men like you just did? Anyways you don't sound like a combination of both. You just sound traditional but in todays world.
I don't know what u understand from that text. I'm not claiming, But it is what it is. Your views can be different than mine, but it will not change my views. Ik I'm combination of both.
I'm also not looking for a complete traditional man or a complete modern man. I want someone who is combination of both.
Coz extremists are weird af
Talk about weird extremists when your generalizing men. It's ironic though
It's not about everyone 😭 chill
I'm just saying and if you think I'm mad then maybe you need to chill. It is in fact your generalizing and you are calling extremists weird and here just I'm pointing out your irony.
I'm not mad lol but there is a difference between generalizing something and calling extremist weird. U don't get my point. When I said extremist, it means someone who is extreme traditional type or extreme modern type
Generalizing is an extreme act. And actually got you to prove my point. I was intentionally backfiring your own logic. I indeed try to generalize what traditional and modern is but you see, that's an extremists point of view because they generalize as well which you apparently call weird and ironically you're doing it yourself. So if I'm actually not chill with your answer, why would you actually be surprised? Do you think no women would get triggered if I say women are trash? Pretty much they wouldn't respond the same way I do but just straight up tell me to chill or whatever insult they would come up with.
Gender roles are more flexible
Some of us are more stupid even with technology.
You're expected to get pregnant now
Get in trouble just for giving your woman a smack.
It isn't.
don't know why
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